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Did you literally make a tftv account just to post this?

b4nny alt?

hello i get it no one likes coaches and we didnt deserve win please stop making more threads aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

i can't have opinions because i'm in a tf2 mod group and i never posted anything?

it's not a bad question, but there was already a thread on this:

http://www.teamfortress.tv/35900/coach-to-i58-maybe-unfair

no i just dont know if this is a shitpost or not

thats not the point hes making

u deserved the win people who say otherwise are retarded

so many people on this forum are actually huge dicks when it comes to new players.

relax, he didn't see the other thread, and if it's a shitpost, who cares?

never said you're bad or anything but a 7th person is an objective advantage cut and dry. would you win without kaidus? don't know and never will, but the fact remains that it's a resource that other teams don't have access to.

i should look harder next time lol

i don't think it's such a huge advantage that it would sway the results of the lan. a normal team with 6 people in mumble can have clustered comms, imagine having 7. i watched one of haffi's streams with kaidus comming and it was pretty hectic and harder to follow, think of highlander.

another thing you'd have to realize that if kaidus wasn't the coach, kaidus would be the demoman and no offence to spudd, crowns was better with kaidus on demoman, but at the cost of his health, is that a disadvantage? of course it is. i didn't see any threads about kaidus wrist which clearly hinders his play especially that he has to play for hours and hours in a difficult lan environment. please stop making threads about this and just accept the results.

i said before that you can't say for certain if crowns would have won without kaidus coaching. the point of this is to talk about the future of competitive tf2.

It seems like having a main caller is something that would be an objective advantage so long as the caller were proficient at the role. So the more pertinent question is whether or not that's something "we" want as part of the format. From the perspective of a captain trying to build and manage a team at any level of competition it seems like a nightmare to me. It's hard to gather and coordinate six people, and adding a seventh non-player but super important person to the equation is ultimately a big complication.

I'd say keep it simple and ban it. Part of the greater feat of excelling in competitive play is the formulation and communication of higher level calls while also jumping around killing dudes.

This is why the comp Tf2 scene isn't growing, most people are extremely rude to new players. :(

i would assume that this was the first and last time that we see coaches at a tf2 lan given the backlash and the fact that the other top teams seemed opposed to it/didn't feel like it was necessary in their lineup. the reason why it existed in the first place is because of RSI, something that to my knowledge anyway, no other players at the top of tf2 suffer from..
in terms of online tf2 as a whole spanning across all divisions, having a coach would be stupid because of the risk of ghosting, rendering things like hiding/spy plays/backcaps useless.

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