DollyPeople actually think the atomizer is OP when the winger is allowed and nobody will use it over basher anyway, like year sure triple jumps but I can absolutely assure you that it won't be a problem
Isn't atomizer passive jumping buff, but winger has to be out to get the buff?
If atomizer was active buff it would suck, passive it is OP with the current penalty.
[quote=Dolly]People actually think the atomizer is OP when the winger is allowed and nobody will use it over basher anyway, like year sure triple jumps but I can absolutely assure you that it won't be a problem[/quote]
Isn't atomizer passive jumping buff, but winger has to be out to get the buff?
If atomizer was active buff it would suck, passive it is OP with the current penalty.
I don't agree with Loch n Load, Natascha, Rescue Ranger, or Atomizer being unbanned. That being said I'm glad that there's finally a global whitelist. Hopefully soon we can also get a global ruleset.
I don't agree with Loch n Load, Natascha, Rescue Ranger, or Atomizer being unbanned. That being said I'm glad that there's finally a global whitelist. Hopefully soon we can also get a global ruleset.
the atomizer fix is pretty easy: just make it like winger so that you can do the triple jump just when you have it out
the atomizer fix is pretty easy: just make it like winger so that you can do the triple jump just when you have it out
looks like the enjoyable 6s class left to play is scout
should we just do away with class limits while were at it? do 6v6 scout only?
looks like the enjoyable 6s class left to play is scout
should we just do away with class limits while were at it? do 6v6 scout only?
Aptrip soldiers
I dunno...
Just equip base jumper and float in the sky spamming down beggar's/air strike rockets
[quote=Apt]rip soldiers[/quote]
I dunno...
Just equip base jumper and float in the sky spamming down beggar's/air strike rockets
while i think some of these seem retarded on paper, i say fuck it, let's see how it works out
while i think some of these seem retarded on paper, i say fuck it, let's see how it works out
hey you know what would be a great idea? let's make the strongest class in the game even stronger by allowing atomizer
hey you know what would be a great idea? let's make the strongest class in the game even stronger by allowing atomizer
Kairufloat in the sky
hitscan?
[quote=Kairu]float in the sky[/quote]
hitscan?
serious question: is it too late to alter this whitelist based on the very obvious backlash about the atomizer in particular
serious question: is it too late to alter this whitelist based on the very obvious backlash about the atomizer in particular
why is the guillotine banned
why is the guillotine banned
KairuAptrip soldiers
I dunno...
Just equip base jumper and float in the sky spamming down beggar's/air strike rockets
scouts can fly too now
[quote=Kairu][quote=Apt]rip soldiers[/quote]
I dunno...
Just equip base jumper and float in the sky spamming down beggar's/air strike rockets[/quote]
scouts can fly too now
This process was led by the crème de la prèm of each region’s competitive players, in order to take advantage of their deep understanding of the game.
From what I saw in that tweet this definitely didn't happen.
[quote=This process was led by the crème de la prèm of each region’s competitive players, in order to take advantage of their deep understanding of the game.][/quote]
From what I saw in that tweet this definitely didn't happen.
Also winger and atomizer stack. I'm testing what jumps you can make with it, you can do super high with both.
Also winger and atomizer stack. I'm testing what jumps you can make with it, you can do super high with both.
honestly the only good i can see out of this is the incredibly small chance that they do something about actual competitive tf2
other than that i'd say a lot of these changes are very questionable
honestly the only good i can see out of this is the incredibly small chance that they do something about actual competitive tf2
other than that i'd say a lot of these changes are very questionable
saamin what universe should the rescue ranger not be banner
since this is a universal whitelist it applies to all game modes, including HL. rescue ranger is a really big deal for HL defending engies. so that's probably why.
[quote=saam]in what universe should the rescue ranger not be banner[/quote]
since this is a universal whitelist it applies to all game modes, including HL. rescue ranger is a really big deal for HL defending engies. so that's probably why.
new pro strat: have both soldiers run batts/conch and play gay as fuck to farm charge
new pro strat: have both soldiers run batts/conch and play gay as fuck to farm charge
feathershitscan?
Less of a problem than you'd think. Map dependant for sure though.
the301stspartanscouts can fly too now
Fair point.
[quote=feathers]
hitscan?[/quote]
Less of a problem than you'd think. Map dependant for sure though.
[quote=the301stspartan]
scouts can fly too now[/quote]
Fair point.
Imagine having to have your demo build uber because all the scouts will be running atomizer while all the soldiers are running gunboats.
Imagine having to have your demo build uber because all the scouts will be running atomizer while all the soldiers are running gunboats.
Rescue Ranger and Minis.
Time to get a 6v6 team B)
Rescue Ranger and Minis.
Time to get a 6v6 team B)
highfivewhy is the guillotine banned
because spamming it at a choke and doing 50+ damage every 5 seconds at any range is stupid and would only slow the game
also because dot is never fun
[quote=highfive]why is the guillotine banned[/quote]
because spamming it at a choke and doing 50+ damage every 5 seconds at any range is stupid and would only slow the game
also because dot is never fun
KairuAptrip soldiers
I dunno...
Just equip base jumper and float in the sky spamming down beggar's/air strike rockets
lmao fuck me
[quote=Kairu][quote=Apt]rip soldiers[/quote]
I dunno...
Just equip base jumper and float in the sky spamming down beggar's/air strike rockets[/quote]
lmao fuck me
yttriumsaamin what universe should the rescue ranger not be banner
since this is a universal whitelist it applies to all game modes, including HL. rescue ranger is a really big deal for HL defending engies. so that's probably why.
If that is the case who the fuck thought pandering to HL was a good idea.
[quote=yttrium][quote=saam]in what universe should the rescue ranger not be banner[/quote]
since this is a universal whitelist it applies to all game modes, including HL. rescue ranger is a really big deal for HL defending engies. so that's probably why.[/quote]
If that is the case who the fuck thought pandering to HL was a good idea.
This is a huge step forward for the community, moving away from "it's annoying" to "it's really game breaking".
Two weapons concern me the most: Rescue Ranger and Atomizer.
Maybe a good change for rescue ranger would be: Unable to fire while inside spawn? I think it's clear the atomizer needs a big negative passive effect if the triple jump is to be balanced as well.
This is a huge step forward for the community, moving away from "it's annoying" to "it's really game breaking".
Two weapons concern me the most: Rescue Ranger and Atomizer.
Maybe a good change for rescue ranger would be: Unable to fire while inside spawn? I think it's clear the atomizer needs a big negative passive effect if the triple jump is to be balanced as well.
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yttriumsaamin what universe should the rescue ranger not be banner
since this is a universal whitelist it applies to all game modes, including HL. rescue ranger is a really big deal for HL defending engies. so that's probably why.
This does not apply to highlander, this whitelist only applies to 6v6.
[quote=yttrium][quote=saam]in what universe should the rescue ranger not be banner[/quote]
since this is a universal whitelist it applies to all game modes, including HL. rescue ranger is a really big deal for HL defending engies. so that's probably why.[/quote]
This does not apply to highlander, this whitelist only applies to 6v6.
diashockImagine having to have your demo build uber because all the scouts will be running atomizer while all the soldiers are running gunboats.
that's what katana is for
[quote=diashock]Imagine having to have your demo build uber because all the scouts will be running atomizer while all the soldiers are running gunboats.[/quote]
that's what katana is for
This is not a HL whitelist, its a 6v6 whitelist unified across the leagues. Just saying.
This is not a HL whitelist, its a 6v6 whitelist unified across the leagues. Just saying.
WARHURYEAHThis process was led by the crème de la prèm of each region’s competitive players, in order to take advantage of their deep understanding of the game.
From what I saw in that tweet this definitely didn't happen.
nursey voted to allow the atomizer
#snitch
EDIT: I am being told this is a lie but now I dont know what to believe pls no hate
[quote=WARHURYEAH][quote=This process was led by the crème de la prèm of each region’s competitive players, in order to take advantage of their deep understanding of the game.][/quote]
From what I saw in that tweet this definitely didn't happen.[/quote]
nursey voted to allow the atomizer
#snitch
EDIT: I am being told this is a lie but now I dont know what to believe pls no hate
WARHURYEAHThis process was led by the crème de la prèm of each region’s competitive players, in order to take advantage of their deep understanding of the game.
From what I saw in that tweet this definitely didn't happen.
It's worth pointing out that that tweet was a second meeting that happened because etf2l admins were not able to make the original one. It doesn't fully represent the balance of the discussion.
Having said that, I definitely don't think there was enough player representation. Particularly from Europe.
[quote=WARHURYEAH][quote=This process was led by the crème de la prèm of each region’s competitive players, in order to take advantage of their deep understanding of the game.][/quote]
From what I saw in that tweet this definitely didn't happen.[/quote]
It's worth pointing out that that tweet was a second meeting that happened because etf2l admins were not able to make the original one. It doesn't fully represent the balance of the discussion.
Having said that, I definitely don't think there was enough player representation. Particularly from Europe.