8/d♥ck bday friday: BEGGARS
8/d♥ck bday friday: WHAT IS THIS UGANDA

Winger + Atomizer Jumps:

Metalworks:

Lower second to bridge. Since the ground is uneven and the margin is thin, it's kind of inconsistent.
Still can't go up dropdown.
Alley concrete to forward spawn roof.
Mid lower ground to balcony.

Can't really find any of this map, and none of the new jumps are really that useful.

not really u die in 1 hit from:
scatter
any rl
any pill
any stickytrap
any headshot

u only have 100 hp

The list on the news post is what IS still banned

Maybe someone can post a list of things that are now UNbanned

this whitelist is shit

at least i haven't paid my league fees yet lmao

also why is it called esea s22 whitelist when it is about to be s23

new meta:

• both scouts on atomizer, demo builds using katana, pocket probably on shotgun to deny scouts
  
• on last you can now put the sentry far from spawn, heal it to tank an uber and even teleport it away and rebuild it by spawn if you have the space to
  
• on last you sit with the brass beast and tank like 25% more of the uber or swap to fists of steel
  
• some roamers who are gods with the beggars will run it for picks sometimes
  
• jarate allows snipers picking into last to be more useful in the ensuing fight
  
• 8 rocket air strike syncs on to the med for those sweet +10s

I can't recall a single update when scout got nerfed. It has always been OP and now it's not even worth to play soldier anymore, scout keeps getting buffed and won't ever stop til 6 scouts vs 6 scouts

the box trot op?

if ur good enough to get 1 backstab with regular spy you can now get 2 at least with the big earner that's all i'm saying

and that normally happens if ur team doesn't listen, earner or no earner. it's a hard punish that's meant to be a proper sidegrade based on a team making mistakes which is barely viable
that's what makes it a sidegrade, u have to not get hit to get a stab, but if u get detected, ur probably gonna die

the big earner has been in etf2l for a while now and trust me it's not a good as you think it is

can´t help but feel that some of these weapons will never have a place in 6s, no mather how many buff´s/nerf´s are done,
will there ever be a time where every weapon is unbanned that doesn´t shit on the 6´s experience ... i have my doubts speccially with valve´s rep ..
instead of MM adapt to the existing successful competitive experience, im seeing the competitive 6´s leagues adapt to the piece of shit that is MM
i with this game all the best but i have a hard time seeing a positive future.

jarate sniper to replace roamer on flank in comination with an atomizer flanks scout?

but instead of it happening because your team doesn't listen it happens because spy is moving faster than a scout and you literally cannot react to it in time

i'm not arguing that it should be banned (i dont want it to be because i can run spy and people won't get mad at me lol) i'm just saying that it's really good now and should at least be looked at

edit: I just tested and upon backstab spy's speed goes from 320 (107%) to 425 (142%) so it does stack

it wasn't super good before MYM when it would only buff you to 405 speed (which is why it was allowed in ETF2L for so long)

SexHaver420 \(✿ ◕‿◕)/: Your new whitelist has killed tf2 I hope youre happy
Sideshow: exceedingly

im suprised out of all the unlocks allowed the one you choose to care about the most is the big earner lol

nursey you know the rule: once a spy main always a spy main

btw big earner has been allowed in etf2l for a while and hasn't made a huge impact, even though i personally always used it

tbh airstrike and beggars are a bigger problem than atomizer.

Fully Compiled list of new jumps possible with using Atomizer and The Winger.

Granary_pro:

Can jump from second to upper.
Mid point to lower part of catwalk if crouched at end of jump.
Yard to shed without jumping on the tank thingy.
If you stand on the metal I-Beams at the bottom of lunchbox, you can jump to the top of lunchbox.
From tires on last to right window.

Badlands:

Grey to spire healthpack.
Lower area just outside of dropdown onto Diag.
Ground near shithouse to mid point.
Ground near shithouse to balcony.
Valley to window.
Yard to pride is more open.
Main to lobby.
Low ground last to High ground last.
Diag to balcony.
Right Hoodoo to enemy train.

Viaduct:

Cliff pack to cliff just barely, have to aim for slightly lower place.
House to China.
House to Cliff.
China to that rock on cliff that soldiers stand on, blanking on its name.
Concrete to China through mid.
Concrete to China through japan.
Can't don't Concrete to China through grass.

Gullywash:

Lower ground mid to high ground mid without using the wooden beam.
Can get into the Big Door hiding spot easily.
Choke to wooden planks on upper.
From the very back corner of second to the top of second point.
Lower ground on last to Balcony.

Double jump gets you to most places on this map, atomizer isn't really a big deal here.

Process:

Concrete on second to top of second point without using the little pipes on the side.
Low ground grass to sewer.
Crates by sewer to jumping over the fence on second.
Last point to nest.
Lower entrance of lobby to upper entrance of lobby.
Still have to use roof slant to get onto top of mid.
Right side grass to forward spawn roof.
Low ground IT to upper IT.
Low ground last to top of barrels.

Sunshine:

Last point to pipe.
Can jump over the right grate thing on last, from the lower ground.
Lower to far left entrance on second without using stairs.
Lower to small pack on second.
Can't get onto the top of the entrance into flowers.
Lower ground to second point.
Can jump onto the fence at choke.
Can use fence to get onto the wooden fence thing at choke.
Can get wooden fench from using high ground in choke.
Cafe to Tower pack.
Mid to top of tetris.
Shed to top of tetris.
Shed to cafe roof.
If you do a little twirl you can go cafe to roof of cafe.

Snakewater:

Bucket Choke to Tower is approached from left side.
Lower to shutter.
Second Pack to bats.
Shed to Bats fence.
Shed to window.
Africa to second point.
I think if you time to jump right, you can go window to pipe.
Crate to top of mid.
Left roof to Right roof.
Right roof to top roof, barely can't go to right roof.
Main to Catwalk.

Metalworks:

Lower second to bridge. Since the ground is uneven and the margin is thin, it's kind of inconsistent.
Still can't go up dropdown.
Alley concrete to forward spawn roof.
Mid lower ground to balcony.

Can't really find any of this map, and none of the new jumps are really that useful.

baby face blaster
back scatter*
pretty boys pocket pistol*
atomizer
candy cane*
wrap assassin

air strike
beggars bazooka
cow mangler
battalion's backup

phlogistinator*
neon annihilator*
powerjack

iron bomber
loch n load*
quickiebomb launcher
tide turner

brass beast
huo long heater*
natasha
tomislav
sandvich
holiday punch*
warrior spirit*

frontier justice
rescue ranger
widowmaker
eureka effect*
gunslinger

hitman's heatmaker*
machina
cleaner's carbine*
jarate

diamondback
enforcer*
red tape recorder*
spy-cicle

*next to things which are underpowered as shit and should have been unbanned anyway (imo)

things that WEREN'T unbanned (for no fucking reason):
non partner custom taunts
pomson (they fixed the invisible projectile glitch and it is actually the only weapon that was legal (in etf2l) which is now banned )

full time airstrike 8)

literally mute managed to double backstab my team once in two of 4 scrims
he wasn't able to again because we knew to react
it comes down to mindfulness at that point and that is still crutching on the enemy team's making a mistake which doesn't work
it's only worked twice out of those 4 because of us because of being aware.

They probably aren't problems DUE to the atomizer. At least, along with the medic speed buff.

Atomizer + winger is almost mandatory now so I'll put together a few videos with some more jumps.

scouts are now multi mobile mercenaries

http://i.imgur.com/1tptWb3.jpg?1

i didnt give esea my money for my first season to turn into a meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4

I don't think airstrike is going to be a problem, if you aren't rocket jumping it is quite the downgrade. Also beggar's bazooka's random projectile deviation makes it useless.

this is everything on Sunshine if you want to see what it all looks like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMxV_wKaB_U

It's still processing so it'll be choppy at 1080p60