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Is Hillary Clinton Faking Rally's now?
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this has to be an ironic video
you can literally see the flags in a phone which he isnt pointing out and it is clear he doesnt understand how perspective works (which i guess he proves with the inability to see her on the big phone screen)
there are literally heads which you can see
this has to be an ironic video
you can literally see the flags in a phone which he isnt pointing out and it is clear he doesnt understand how perspective works (which i guess he proves with the inability to see her on the big phone screen)
there are literally heads which you can see
you can literally see the flags in a phone which he isnt pointing out and it is clear he doesnt understand how perspective works (which i guess he proves with the inability to see her on the big phone screen)
there are literally heads which you can see
Look at how close the flag looks behind Hillary. Can't be more than 5-10 feet behind her. Then we see the actual gym that she was speaking at https://youtu.be/TinDB0g2R_g?t=100 Looks more like 30-40 feet behind her. You would also be able to see some people on both sides in the background if that was the actual event location, would you not?
aierathis has to be an ironic video
you can literally see the flags in a phone which he isnt pointing out and it is clear he doesnt understand how perspective works (which i guess he proves with the inability to see her on the big phone screen)
there are literally heads which you can see
There are about a dozen phones, I didn't see any flags in them. Can you give me a time stamp?
Also did you notice the hanging industrial lamps in several of the phones screens, they don't appear in the other further back gym shot that I posted in the above video in this post.
Look at how close the flag looks behind Hillary. Can't be more than 5-10 feet behind her. Then we see the actual gym that she was speaking at https://youtu.be/TinDB0g2R_g?t=100 Looks more like 30-40 feet behind her. You would also be able to see some people on both sides in the background if that was the actual event location, would you not?
[quote=aiera]this has to be an ironic video
you can literally see the flags in a phone which he isnt pointing out and it is clear he doesnt understand how perspective works (which i guess he proves with the inability to see her on the big phone screen)
there are literally heads which you can see[/quote]
There are about a dozen phones, I didn't see any flags in them. Can you give me a time stamp?
Also did you notice the hanging industrial lamps in several of the phones screens, they don't appear in the other further back gym shot that I posted in the above video in this post.
[quote=aiera]this has to be an ironic video
you can literally see the flags in a phone which he isnt pointing out and it is clear he doesnt understand how perspective works (which i guess he proves with the inability to see her on the big phone screen)
there are literally heads which you can see[/quote]
There are about a dozen phones, I didn't see any flags in them. Can you give me a time stamp?
Also did you notice the hanging industrial lamps in several of the phones screens, they don't appear in the other further back gym shot that I posted in the above video in this post.
im pretty sure even the people who are really into politics could care less about this
im pretty sure even the people who are really into politics could care less about this
if you're not trolling, you have some serious delusion issues. this isn't the_donald, and people aren't going to eat this insane bullshit up dude
i have NO IDEA why i'm going to try explaining any of this to you because you clearly are set in the delusion that it would be easier to fake a political rally than have a real one
the distance of the flag can look off to a layperson because of the distance between clinton and the camera combined with the lense the camera is using. here's an example of the distortion you can get with this effect. for the same reason the flag looks huge behind clinton, our perception of the scene is distorted with the cameras in the audience. because we see the scene through the camera's telephoto lense, it can be jarring to see the scene through the smartphone screens. but acknowledging this phenomenon will bring you one hop closer to the real world, my friend.
if you're not trolling, you have some serious delusion issues. this isn't the_donald, and people aren't going to eat this insane bullshit up dude
i have NO IDEA why i'm going to try explaining any of this to you because you clearly are set in the delusion that it would be easier to fake a political rally than have a real one
the distance of the flag can look off to a layperson because of the distance between clinton and the camera combined with the lense the camera is using.[url=http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0OFBVGsCDpc/Ts5vhIRNPuI/AAAAAAAAJMc/EriRwqu2pb8/w497-h373/HitchcockZoom_Micael_Reynaud.gif] here'[/url]s an example of the distortion you can get with this effect. for the same reason the flag looks huge behind clinton, our perception of the scene is distorted with the cameras in the audience. because we see the scene through the camera's telephoto lense, it can be jarring to see the scene through the smartphone screens. but acknowledging this phenomenon will bring you one hop closer to the real world, my friend.
i have NO IDEA why i'm going to try explaining any of this to you because you clearly are set in the delusion that it would be easier to fake a political rally than have a real one
the distance of the flag can look off to a layperson because of the distance between clinton and the camera combined with the lense the camera is using.[url=http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0OFBVGsCDpc/Ts5vhIRNPuI/AAAAAAAAJMc/EriRwqu2pb8/w497-h373/HitchcockZoom_Micael_Reynaud.gif] here'[/url]s an example of the distortion you can get with this effect. for the same reason the flag looks huge behind clinton, our perception of the scene is distorted with the cameras in the audience. because we see the scene through the camera's telephoto lense, it can be jarring to see the scene through the smartphone screens. but acknowledging this phenomenon will bring you one hop closer to the real world, my friend.
Probably the most interesting article published this year is this one from PlosOne http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0147905
It's open access and all of you should read it.
Essentially it says that conspiracy theories are almost entirely non-viable because the amount of people that would need to be kept quiet reaches proportions that are so large, it is completely infeasible to even begin thinking it would be possible.We can apply similar logic. How many people would have to know and be involved in this conspiracy. Combine that with the fact that it would be a media field day and probably quite lucrative in terms of fame and some monies for anyone who would come out about it. Are you really telling me that all the people involved in making a fake video or organizing a fake rally would be quiet? It only takes exactly one person, and with the way the media is in a frenzy for anything to talk about this election cycle that isn't how batshit insane and obviously dangerous a person Trump is, it would catch on quickly.
Probably the most interesting article published this year is this one from PlosOne http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0147905
It's open access and all of you should read it.
Essentially it says that conspiracy theories are almost entirely non-viable because the amount of people that would need to be kept quiet reaches proportions that are so large, it is completely infeasible to even begin thinking it would be possible.We can apply similar logic. How many people would have to know and be involved in this conspiracy. Combine that with the fact that it would be a media field day and probably quite lucrative in terms of fame and some monies for anyone who would come out about it. Are you really telling me that all the people involved in making a fake video or organizing a fake rally would be quiet? It only takes exactly one person, and with the way the media is in a frenzy for anything to talk about this election cycle that isn't how batshit insane and obviously dangerous a person Trump is, it would catch on quickly.
It's open access and all of you should read it.
Essentially it says that conspiracy theories are almost entirely non-viable because the amount of people that would need to be kept quiet reaches proportions that are so large, it is completely infeasible to even begin thinking it would be possible.We can apply similar logic. How many people would have to know and be involved in this conspiracy. Combine that with the fact that it would be a media field day and probably quite lucrative in terms of fame and some monies for anyone who would come out about it. Are you really telling me that all the people involved in making a fake video or organizing a fake rally would be quiet? It only takes exactly one person, and with the way the media is in a frenzy for anything to talk about this election cycle that isn't how batshit insane and obviously dangerous a person Trump is, it would catch on quickly.
do you seriously think the US government (or clinton's campaign) is ran well enough to facilitate any sort of conspiracy
do you seriously think the US government (or clinton's campaign) is ran well enough to facilitate any sort of conspiracy
KevinIsPwnif you're not trolling, you have some serious delusion issues. this isn't the_donald, and people aren't going to eat this insane bullshit up dude
i have NO IDEA why i'm going to try explaining any of this to you because you clearly are set in the delusion that it would be easier to fake a political rally than have a real one
the distance of the flag can look off to a layperson because of the distance between clinton and the camera combined with the lense the camera is using. here's an example of the distortion you can get with this effect. for the same reason the flag looks huge behind clinton, our perception of the scene is distorted with the cameras in the audience. because we see the scene through the camera's telephoto lense, it can be jarring to see the scene through the smartphone screens. but acknowledging this phenomenon will bring you one hop closer to the real world, my friend.
While I appreciate your comment, your opinion of me, or the creator of the video is meaningless. 12 phones and zero flags and I'm the delusional one? Clearly in the phones you can see industrial hanging light fixtures but you can't in any of the other videos from different angles which show a larger fov. I don't need to be schooled either on camera's and lenses. I own multiple DSLR's and other camera gear, I'm pretty well versed in photography.
I bet you are the kind of person that turns on CNN/MSNBC every night watches the news and believes 100% of it is true and there is never any faking going on, and that everyone in the government is working for our best interests, not their own.
[quote=KevinIsPwn]if you're not trolling, you have some serious delusion issues. this isn't the_donald, and people aren't going to eat this insane bullshit up dude
i have NO IDEA why i'm going to try explaining any of this to you because you clearly are set in the delusion that it would be easier to fake a political rally than have a real one
the distance of the flag can look off to a layperson because of the distance between clinton and the camera combined with the lense the camera is using.[url=http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0OFBVGsCDpc/Ts5vhIRNPuI/AAAAAAAAJMc/EriRwqu2pb8/w497-h373/HitchcockZoom_Micael_Reynaud.gif] here'[/url]s an example of the distortion you can get with this effect. for the same reason the flag looks huge behind clinton, our perception of the scene is distorted with the cameras in the audience. because we see the scene through the camera's telephoto lense, it can be jarring to see the scene through the smartphone screens. but acknowledging this phenomenon will bring you one hop closer to the real world, my friend.[/quote]
While I appreciate your comment, your opinion of me, or the creator of the video is meaningless. 12 phones and zero flags and I'm the delusional one? Clearly in the phones you can see industrial hanging light fixtures but you can't in any of the other videos from different angles which show a larger fov. I don't need to be schooled either on camera's and lenses. I own multiple DSLR's and other camera gear, I'm pretty well versed in photography.
I bet you are the kind of person that turns on CNN/MSNBC every night watches the news and believes 100% of it is true and there is never any faking going on, and that everyone in the government is working for our best interests, not their own.
i have NO IDEA why i'm going to try explaining any of this to you because you clearly are set in the delusion that it would be easier to fake a political rally than have a real one
the distance of the flag can look off to a layperson because of the distance between clinton and the camera combined with the lense the camera is using.[url=http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0OFBVGsCDpc/Ts5vhIRNPuI/AAAAAAAAJMc/EriRwqu2pb8/w497-h373/HitchcockZoom_Micael_Reynaud.gif] here'[/url]s an example of the distortion you can get with this effect. for the same reason the flag looks huge behind clinton, our perception of the scene is distorted with the cameras in the audience. because we see the scene through the camera's telephoto lense, it can be jarring to see the scene through the smartphone screens. but acknowledging this phenomenon will bring you one hop closer to the real world, my friend.[/quote]
While I appreciate your comment, your opinion of me, or the creator of the video is meaningless. 12 phones and zero flags and I'm the delusional one? Clearly in the phones you can see industrial hanging light fixtures but you can't in any of the other videos from different angles which show a larger fov. I don't need to be schooled either on camera's and lenses. I own multiple DSLR's and other camera gear, I'm pretty well versed in photography.
I bet you are the kind of person that turns on CNN/MSNBC every night watches the news and believes 100% of it is true and there is never any faking going on, and that everyone in the government is working for our best interests, not their own.
yes i am definitely the one who has been brainwashed and needs to wake up
i'm going to say a prayer that this is a troll and go to bed now bye
yes i am definitely the one who has been brainwashed and needs to wake up
i'm going to say a prayer that this is a troll and go to bed now bye
i'm going to say a prayer that this is a troll and go to bed now bye
drshdwpuppetEssentially it says that conspiracy theories are almost entirely non-viable because the amount of people that would need to be kept quiet reaches proportions that are so large, it is completely infeasible to even begin thinking it would be possible.We can apply similar logic. How many people would have to know and be involved in this conspiracy. Combine that with the fact that it would be a media field day and probably quite lucrative in terms of fame and some monies for anyone who would come out about it. Are you really telling me that all the people involved in making a fake video or organizing a fake rally would be quiet? It only takes exactly one person, and with the way the media is in a frenzy for anything to talk about this election cycle that isn't how batshit insane and obviously dangerous a person Trump is, it would catch on quickly.
I know there are quite a few bs conspiracy theories but I also know how deceptive the media is. For example, there was a Trump rally in my city, 2000-3000 people showed up. And what does the media report? Well they report that there were mass crowds of people protesting. And they are protesting in front of a building that doesn't exist in my city. So they pulled footage from another event and made it seem like it was protesters in my city. I know multiple people that went to this Trump event and there were no such protesters.
I don't necessarily believe the whole speech and such was on a green screen. But I do believe at the very least there is some level of fakery going on and they are using clips or crowds of people from other events. Hell speaking of fake stuff, at the DNC after all the Bernie people stepped out they were hiring standins to fill some of the seats!
Speaking of conspiracy theories, you should read some history there have been some huge "conspiracy theories" proven to be correct. Take the Vietnam war for example. The official story was that Vietnam was attacking our ship, but this was proven false when the government documents were declassified and showed that we faked it so we could get into the war to spread our brand of democracy.
Another thing worth reading would be operation northwoods.
[quote=drshdwpuppet]Essentially it says that conspiracy theories are almost entirely non-viable because the amount of people that would need to be kept quiet reaches proportions that are so large, it is completely infeasible to even begin thinking it would be possible.We can apply similar logic. How many people would have to know and be involved in this conspiracy. Combine that with the fact that it would be a media field day and probably quite lucrative in terms of fame and some monies for anyone who would come out about it. Are you really telling me that all the people involved in making a fake video or organizing a fake rally would be quiet? It only takes exactly one person, and with the way the media is in a frenzy for anything to talk about this election cycle that isn't how batshit insane and obviously dangerous a person Trump is, it would catch on quickly.[/quote]
I know there are quite a few bs conspiracy theories but I also know how deceptive the media is. For example, there was a Trump rally in my city, 2000-3000 people showed up. And what does the media report? Well they report that there were mass crowds of people protesting. And they are protesting in front of a building that doesn't exist in my city. So they pulled footage from another event and made it seem like it was protesters in my city. I know multiple people that went to this Trump event and there were no such protesters.
I don't necessarily believe the whole speech and such was on a green screen. But I do believe at the very least there is some level of fakery going on and they are using clips or crowds of people from other events. Hell speaking of fake stuff, at the DNC after all the Bernie people stepped out they were hiring standins to fill some of the seats!
Speaking of conspiracy theories, you should read some history there have been some huge "conspiracy theories" proven to be correct. Take the Vietnam war for example. The official story was that Vietnam was attacking our ship, but this was proven false when the government documents were declassified and showed that we faked it so we could get into the war to spread our brand of democracy.
Another thing worth reading would be operation northwoods.
I know there are quite a few bs conspiracy theories but I also know how deceptive the media is. For example, there was a Trump rally in my city, 2000-3000 people showed up. And what does the media report? Well they report that there were mass crowds of people protesting. And they are protesting in front of a building that doesn't exist in my city. So they pulled footage from another event and made it seem like it was protesters in my city. I know multiple people that went to this Trump event and there were no such protesters.
I don't necessarily believe the whole speech and such was on a green screen. But I do believe at the very least there is some level of fakery going on and they are using clips or crowds of people from other events. Hell speaking of fake stuff, at the DNC after all the Bernie people stepped out they were hiring standins to fill some of the seats!
Speaking of conspiracy theories, you should read some history there have been some huge "conspiracy theories" proven to be correct. Take the Vietnam war for example. The official story was that Vietnam was attacking our ship, but this was proven false when the government documents were declassified and showed that we faked it so we could get into the war to spread our brand of democracy.
Another thing worth reading would be operation northwoods.
Glad to see our community is so accepting of people with obvious brain damage.
Glad to see our community is so accepting of people with obvious brain damage.
dollarlayerThere are about a dozen phones, I didn't see any flags in them. Can you give me a time stamp?
Also did you notice the hanging industrial lamps in several of the phones screens, they don't appear in the other further back gym shot that I posted in the above video in this post.
1:06
http://i.imgur.com/PoiNhGU.png
http://i.imgur.com/2Wrfj20.jpg
this is the red white and blue circular thing that is in the second screenshot and as you can see the flags are above it
go to bed and stop shitposting fuck im not even liberal
[quote=dollarlayer]There are about a dozen phones, I didn't see any flags in them. Can you give me a time stamp?
Also did you notice the hanging industrial lamps in several of the phones screens, they don't appear in the other further back gym shot that I posted in the above video in this post.[/quote]
1:06
[img]http://i.imgur.com/PoiNhGU.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/2Wrfj20.jpg[/img]
this is the red white and blue circular thing that is in the second screenshot and as you can see the flags are above it
go to bed and stop shitposting fuck im not even liberal
Also did you notice the hanging industrial lamps in several of the phones screens, they don't appear in the other further back gym shot that I posted in the above video in this post.[/quote]
1:06
[img]http://i.imgur.com/PoiNhGU.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/2Wrfj20.jpg[/img]
this is the red white and blue circular thing that is in the second screenshot and as you can see the flags are above it
go to bed and stop shitposting fuck im not even liberal
owlGlad to see our community is so accepting of people with obvious brain damage.
Brian damage? You mean Hillary Clinton? She did suffer a stroke and brain damage, and had to wear prism glasses for a while. And now you see her wearing zeiss Z1 glasses... hmmm I wonder what kind of medical conditions are often treated with blue zeiss Z1 glasses....
[quote=owl]Glad to see our community is so accepting of people with obvious brain damage.[/quote]
Brian damage? You mean Hillary Clinton? She did suffer a stroke and brain damage, and had to wear prism glasses for a while. And now you see her wearing zeiss Z1 glasses... hmmm I wonder what kind of medical conditions are often treated with blue zeiss Z1 glasses....
Brian damage? You mean Hillary Clinton? She did suffer a stroke and brain damage, and had to wear prism glasses for a while. And now you see her wearing zeiss Z1 glasses... hmmm I wonder what kind of medical conditions are often treated with blue zeiss Z1 glasses....
aieradollarlayerThere are about a dozen phones, I didn't see any flags in them. Can you give me a time stamp?1:06
Also did you notice the hanging industrial lamps in several of the phones screens, they don't appear in the other further back gym shot that I posted in the above video in this post.
http://i.imgur.com/PoiNhGU.png
http://i.imgur.com/2Wrfj20.jpg
this is the red white and blue circular thing that is in the second screenshot
go to bed and stop shitposting fuck
Wait, are you trolling? Where are is the red/white and blue on the phone? I even expanded the image file in photoshop and used the eye dropper tool to sample multiple pixel areas. I'm seeing whites, gray's, brown's, tan's. Not a single pixel hint of blue or red.
[quote=aiera][quote=dollarlayer]There are about a dozen phones, I didn't see any flags in them. Can you give me a time stamp?
Also did you notice the hanging industrial lamps in several of the phones screens, they don't appear in the other further back gym shot that I posted in the above video in this post.[/quote]
1:06
[img]http://i.imgur.com/PoiNhGU.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/2Wrfj20.jpg[/img]
this is the red white and blue circular thing that is in the second screenshot
go to bed and stop shitposting fuck[/quote]
Wait, are you trolling? Where are is the red/white and blue on the phone? I even expanded the image file in photoshop and used the eye dropper tool to sample multiple pixel areas. I'm seeing whites, gray's, brown's, tan's. Not a single pixel hint of blue or red.
Also did you notice the hanging industrial lamps in several of the phones screens, they don't appear in the other further back gym shot that I posted in the above video in this post.[/quote]
1:06
[img]http://i.imgur.com/PoiNhGU.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/2Wrfj20.jpg[/img]
this is the red white and blue circular thing that is in the second screenshot
go to bed and stop shitposting fuck[/quote]
Wait, are you trolling? Where are is the red/white and blue on the phone? I even expanded the image file in photoshop and used the eye dropper tool to sample multiple pixel areas. I'm seeing whites, gray's, brown's, tan's. Not a single pixel hint of blue or red.
if you think a 720p recording which has a phone screen in a tiny portion of it will do a good job of capturing the colors on the phone screen accurately you have another thing coming.
Here is the original video for /slightly/ better quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnUg9ztXWoI
http://i.imgur.com/2UjZL4U.jpg
now here I have two captures, one from 0:36 and one from 0:45
In the screenshot from 0:45 you see the thing draped over the railing which is blue white and red and the flags above it, the three phone screens I circled in the same green have that viable with flags above it
the left phone has it slightly left of center (you can see lines above it which are flags)
the center phone has it on the left, slightly above the middle (you can see very blurry lines above it which are flags)
the right phone has it on the bottom left (you cannot see flags)
it makes sense that it is on the left of their phone screens as Hilary is walking in from the right and they are leading her about the same amount at the same time.
Finally though it is much less concrete in pink I have circled a phone which is recording the stage which she will inevitably speak upon.
Now as for the other claim which the man makes, you can plainly see hands and heads behind her, it isn't worth proving it wrong it is blatantly clear to anyone with eyes and their tinfoil hat off.
As to you I must ask where they got an entire audience to look at a green screen and not have one of them run to the media or anything to speak of this hoax.
If you still can't believe it I am sorry there is literally no hope for you. It is literally the same shape with the correct shades, dont try to dodge and say that the colors arent correct as the shades absolutely are
if you think a 720p recording which has a phone screen in a tiny portion of it will do a good job of capturing the colors on the phone screen accurately you have another thing coming.
Here is the original video for /slightly/ better quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnUg9ztXWoI
[img]http://i.imgur.com/2UjZL4U.jpg[/img]
now here I have two captures, one from 0:36 and one from 0:45
In the screenshot from 0:45 you see the thing draped over the railing which is blue white and red and the flags above it, the three phone screens I circled in the same green have that viable with flags above it
the left phone has it slightly left of center (you can see lines above it which are flags)
the center phone has it on the left, slightly above the middle (you can see very blurry lines above it which are flags)
the right phone has it on the bottom left (you cannot see flags)
it makes sense that it is on the left of their phone screens as Hilary is walking in from the right and they are leading her about the same amount at the same time.
Finally though it is much less concrete in pink I have circled a phone which is recording the stage which she will inevitably speak upon.
Now as for the other claim which the man makes, you can plainly see hands and heads behind her, it isn't worth proving it wrong it is blatantly clear to anyone with eyes and their tinfoil hat off.
As to you I must ask where they got an entire audience to look at a green screen and not have one of them run to the media or anything to speak of this hoax.
If you still can't believe it I am sorry there is literally no hope for you. It is literally the same shape with the correct shades, dont try to dodge and say that the colors arent correct as the shades absolutely are
Here is the original video for /slightly/ better quality https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnUg9ztXWoI
[img]http://i.imgur.com/2UjZL4U.jpg[/img]
now here I have two captures, one from 0:36 and one from 0:45
In the screenshot from 0:45 you see the thing draped over the railing which is blue white and red and the flags above it, the three phone screens I circled in the same green have that viable with flags above it
the left phone has it slightly left of center (you can see lines above it which are flags)
the center phone has it on the left, slightly above the middle (you can see very blurry lines above it which are flags)
the right phone has it on the bottom left (you cannot see flags)
it makes sense that it is on the left of their phone screens as Hilary is walking in from the right and they are leading her about the same amount at the same time.
Finally though it is much less concrete in pink I have circled a phone which is recording the stage which she will inevitably speak upon.
Now as for the other claim which the man makes, you can plainly see hands and heads behind her, it isn't worth proving it wrong it is blatantly clear to anyone with eyes and their tinfoil hat off.
As to you I must ask where they got an entire audience to look at a green screen and not have one of them run to the media or anything to speak of this hoax.
If you still can't believe it I am sorry there is literally no hope for you. It is literally the same shape with the correct shades, dont try to dodge and say that the colors arent correct as the shades absolutely are
This guy almost certainly believes that Alex Jones is the only man brave enough to give us the real news, there's literally no point in arguing with him or even entering into a casual discussion
This guy almost certainly believes that Alex Jones is the only man brave enough to give us the real news, there's literally no point in arguing with him or even entering into a casual discussion
Can only see a couple slight hints of the full flag, but none of the flags which are partially curled up and on stands.
Can only see a couple slight hints of the full flag, but none of the flags which are partially curled up and on stands.
this video is fuckin crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-SOkfyg9tA
this video is fuckin crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-SOkfyg9tA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-SOkfyg9tA
flufhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6C_Zj_J7tM
how did you get this video of muma
[quote=fluf]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6C_Zj_J7tM[/quote]
how did you get this video of muma
how did you get this video of muma
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