you guys are missing the other plus side. you get to show /r/tf2 And Friends why a bunch of items and shit are abysmal to play against.

like at worst its going to damage the circlejerk against the 6s ruleset and whitelist. and the less people doing that shit the better.

its just one day of dicking around

inb4 banning gunboats

If a team wants to try heavy for this hmu, can play fine on ping.

To be fair to sigafoo, people have been complaining about how powerful scout is for a while.

NA only? Any suggestions on handling ping disadvantage/server allocation if not?

The most recent granary is rc4. Also it would be cool if you could add koth_warmfront since the map pool is already experimental.

Interesting premise coming from someone who was hell-bent on the idea that hl was infinitely better than 6s. I hope you're playing scout. whenever i've watched you play, i imagine it's something that convulses through the brain of an autistic kid watching sesame street.

this tournament is worth it for the return of 9v9enthusiast

"* All games must be played on NA servers"
http://sigafoo.tv/cc-rules

Looks like you can play from where ever, but the rules say you've gotta play on NA servers.

someone tries to help tf2 and we still bitch
gg

Wow sixes gamers are so retarded with what they want its unreal...

how does this event help TF2? what does it do for the scene at large? I guess it's great for the two teams who win this terrible challenge cup, but what about the rest of the participants? what about the spectators?

what a world we live in where someone can run a free fun tournament with a cash prize pool straight out of their own fucking pocket for a game that hardly gets any because they just feel like it and some people will actually thrash and scream "AUTIST!!!! AUUUUUTIIIIST!!! YOU'RE JUST WASTING TIME!!!"

The way I see it, this tournament is an attempt to make a competitive format that appeals to the majority of tf2 pubbers. If you prefer the 6s format > pubs then this isn't for you.

I'm all for greater support of payload/AD in a competitive format as that'll be much more appealing to the 45k people who play tf2 and don't care about the current 6s 5cp situation.

Kind amazing that whoever wins this free cup with fucked up rules gets as much money as the IM winners and more than Jasmine took home from i58

I'm honestly quite infuriated reading the ignorance of some of these posts. They were more common on some of valve mm update threads, exasperating "valve is helping, but you're still bitching??" It's as if you guys either don't read people's full posts or you just don't understand what's being explained. It has been overly transparent what 6s players want. They obviously wanted Valve to help earlier, but that's irrelevant at this point. Now, people just want Valve to balance the game and for them to actually do it well; this, unfortunately, is not happening because they don't quite listen to what good players in this game say besides a couple suggestions from a few players (mainly b4nny). It has been pretty clear that most of their balancing updates are either because of redditors complaining, their own awful ideas, or a couple of competitive players' ideas, like b4nny's. The trouble is that they don't really listen to b4nny and other top players that much. This wouldn't be too much of a problem if the people working on TF2 actually played TF2, though. After having this game since it has came out, it is pretty obvious that most of their weapon and balance updates are not only thoughtless, but also not aimed in the direction of competitive.

In terms of competitive support (money-wise), 6s players also want competitive to have more organizations support 6s competitively. They want Valve specifically to support 6s in this way, though. These tournaments are great and a lot of fun, but they simply won't help TF2; that's fine, and it's not a waste of time either because they're doing what they want to do with their money. It's just comments like these that are so meaningless.

everybody with a functioning brain knows that the only thing that will help TF2 are more tournaments like these for pure 6s, but most importantly, from Valve, and also just sufficient support from Valve in general

As stated, 6s players have known what they have wanted for years now; they have yet to receive it. I'm not sure how the intention of what 6s players want wasn't clear like 3 years ago.

His intentions are obviously less than pure, and this is a lot more about his personal view of what tf2 should be like than what it really should be like, let alone what players who actually understand the game think it should be like.

That said, it's cool that he's arguing his point by hosting a tournament rather than just making more videos aimed at his followers.

What will be most interesting is the opinions people decide to hold after the tournament. Metrics on something like this are pretty subjective. High level participants could say the format sucks, but organizers could just claim subjective shit like "omg look at how great the turnout was" or "personally, I think it went really well and has lots of potential."

if you are making the claim that sigafoo is harming 6s by hosting a different format then anyone who is not hosting a $2000+ 6s tournament right now is effectively harming 6s in the same way as sigafoo.

I literally just made a post two days ago saying that 6's players hostility towards hl players is dumb, but I guess it goes both ways.

Seriously dude? People are "6's autists" because they think this is a giant waste of time and money? As people have already pointed out, prolander and open whitelists have been tried before. They're both shit. This is just doing what has been done before and proven to be shit, but also with money involved for no conceivable reason. Sure, it's sigafoo's money and he's free to do whatever he wants with it, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't bother pointing out he's wasting $2,000 for no reason.

6s autists triggered xD

i'm better than you will ever be at hl

6s autists triggered xD

also who are you?

xD

idiot

im really sorry if i upset you

idk why these autists are trying to justify their (bad) opinions by telling me that they're really good at a dead game anyway xD

oh dang u used the ol' dead game insult
u got em...

no im calling them retarded for thinking that telling people that they're good at video games is somehow an argument

how is "6s autist" an argument tho

i never claimed it was, I'm simply calling them autistic :)

wouldnt that make you a hypocrite tho

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