i like cyzer

Maybe a c-restrict is in order, but not a ban.

This is honestly just bullying. I have played with dflame and personally I don't love him, but I don't shittalk or troll him even when I have a chance. He has improved from how he once was, and honestly is no worse than most people in the community. I have seen "well liked" people who break defined rules get no punishment, and to attempt to ban dflame is just an attempt by people who don't like him to feel vindicated or something.

IMO it shouldn't matter if it gets 100 or 100,00 signatures; you shouldn't punish someone for not being liked.

yes, and when you discuss this hatred publically, during a pickup game, it's referred to as "shit talk"

take this -frag like a man bro

While dflame used to be really fucking annoying copying people's sensitivities etc and he recently did the shit w/the alts on the forums, he shouldn't be banned. As far as I've seen (maybe he does different shit when I'm not around?) in pug.na, dflame is tolerable. It just seems that most of this is harping on 2 things:

1) past actions by dflame
2) things happening outside of pug.na

If that's really the case, then there's no reason to ban him. Keep in mind, Ametrine was allowed to play after cheating in esea, and that was outside of pugs. Why wasn't Ametrine banned? I know he stopped playing but still, it's more than immature when rr messages me some petition when there's no evidence as to why he should be banned, aside from him obviously not liking him. If you don't enjoy being around someone, don't pay attention to them, but don't be obnoxious about it by making a petition when there's no listed reason on why you did so in the first place. If there's enough evidence, give him a warning, and if he doesn't follow the rules, restrict him and go from there.

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qk8pl/

ban anonemouse from pug.na pls

I wasn't going to sign this because I thought dflame had changed, but then I read through these posts and realized he hasn't. I don't know if I want to go through the effort of reopening the tab though...

lol papa... #tf2mix

wrong motherfucker

i hate thrill the most by far

i shit talk my bros. please, for the love of god, remove thyself from my nutsack.

It's already been said a lot but this whole thing is stupid and not funny. Banning people because you don't like them or don't get along with them is retarded. Show some hard evidence of rule breaking or game disruption or w/e and then make idiot posts like this.

Just because this community is a giant bandwagon of hate and or popularity doesn't mean that's how you should decide who plays and who does not. Rules broken? Then ban him, but you better start banning everyone else just the same. There should be no special treatment for any players. Rules are rules.
No actual rules broken = no actual ban deserved.
Simple shit, folks.

this is just some stupid gotfrag bandwagon hate crew thing, dont ban him because he shit talked some invite players a lot of people dont like anyways

wow purple thanks for using the words bandwagon and hate right before i did

If you guys are gonna create drama at least make it interesting

>lememearrows
>implications

>lememearrows
>implications

"it's not shit talk when I do it waaah"

man up, you shit talk, I shit talk, we all shit talk

What happened to the golden rule? *looks out the door* Never mind

4:17 PM - dflame #tf2mix: yo tryout stoper as demo
4:17 PM - dflame #tf2mix: He is sick
4:19 PM - Yz50?br0whale: are you saying cut dummy?
4:19 PM - Yz50?br0whale: isn't he the only person who'll actually even talk to you on my team
4:19 PM - Yz50?br0whale: you're a fucking dick bro
4:19 PM - dflame #tf2mix: I was joking dude
4:19 PM - dflame #tf2mix: dummy is way better than
4:19 PM - dflame #tf2mix: stoper
4:20 PM - dflame #tf2mix: calm downm
4:20 PM - dflame #tf2mix: im sorry
4:20 PM - Yz50?br0whale: i dont think we can be friends
4:20 PM - dflame #tf2mix: Why not
4:20 PM - dflame #tf2mix: :(
4:20 PM - dflame #tf2mix: I'm not trying to be a dick
4:20 PM - dflame #tf2mix: dummy is good
4:20 PM - dflame #tf2mix: He is better than most demoman
4:20 PM - dflame #tf2mix: way better
4:20 PM - dflame #tf2mix: better than plat imo
4:20 PM - dflame #tf2mix: I wouldn't say b4nny though
4:22 PM - dflame #tf2mix: I am sorry.
4:23 PM - dflame #tf2mix: You, Clock, and carnage are literally my idols and the reason why I play scout instead of soldier or a different class. I also love knowing peoples sensitivities. I have tried pretty much every sens there is I currently use my own.
4:23 PM - dflame #tf2mix: and ruwin
4:27 PM - dflame #tf2mix: mad?

can somebody tell me what he does?

ouch, xpozed

ROFL ^

looks like good old gotfrag is back

S I G H

Anyone care to answer?....

10 Yeeegz +13 Frags +–
Willing to sign if someone gives a specific reason/ instance on why he should be banned (other than the chatlog).
#20 DrPloxo +14 Frags +–
It WOULD be nice to have a concise reason why dflame should be banned.
Is he phenomenally shit? Is he particularly trollish? Is he incredibly rude all the time?

He spammed a bind and talked shit. Big deal. I really would like a more particular reason why we're signing a petition to ban him.

Not to come off as a dick, but this community gets incredibly clique-y, bandwagon-y and generally quick to accuse as well as be overly dramatic. Compared to the level of community dickery in LoL or DotA (shit, all competitive games) this hardly seems like something to get upset over.

#21 Rastsy +8 Frags +–
I'm sorry but I'm going to need more concrete evidence before I can make any kind of judgement on this. If hes spamming chat binds. I could care less, If he is actually impeding on game play by off classing like a troll, or afking, I'll consider this. A demo would be nice.

#42 Spamfest +7 Frags +–
What exactly did he do that means he should be banned from pug.na?

#86 azelff +1 Frags +–
can somebody tell me what he does?

I'm pretty sure "nobody gets along/enjoys playing with him" is exactly the right reason to not let somebody participate in a community-run system.

Not saying that's the case here, but seriously, how can you honestly say that 90% of the players not enjoying their PUGs with someone isn't a good reason to ban them from said pugs?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A64ZMKvU9M4

Make a rule saying don't be a dick, and then let everyone make complaints against everyone else because literally nothing bad can happen over a precedent of banning someone you don't like. Totally. Great idea.