miwoPeople can make poor judgement decisions sometimes and second chances are most assuredly a good thing to have; not only in a community of at times immature, hotheaded, and juvenile participants (myself included) but also in all facets of life and social interaction. How would you like to have made a joke in bad taste and forever have a group of people look at you as a "shitlord"?
Downloading, installing, then using a hack with the specific intent of disrupting 12 other people's game is a on a whole different level than telling a bad joke.
I don't understand how you could possibly even think that hacking is a good idea, ever.
It doesn't really matter that you admit you're hotheaded and juvenile; from my understanding what you did goes far beyond a reasonable level of "dumb" and into "you probably shouldn't ever play pug.na ever again."
Matter of perception I guess. What I saw as harmless fun and a bad joke others can perceive otherwise. Thus I am banned and posted an apology on the forums.
[quote=miwo][quote]People can make poor judgement decisions sometimes and second chances are most assuredly a good thing to have; not only in a community of at times immature, hotheaded, and juvenile participants (myself included) but also in all facets of life and social interaction. How would you like to have made a joke in bad taste and forever have a group of people look at you as a "shitlord"?[/quote]
Downloading, installing, then using a hack with the specific intent of disrupting 12 other people's game is a on a whole different level than telling a bad joke.
I don't understand how you could possibly even think that hacking is a good idea, ever.
It doesn't really matter that you admit you're hotheaded and juvenile; from my understanding what you did goes far beyond a reasonable level of "dumb" and into "you probably shouldn't ever play pug.na ever again."[/quote]
Matter of perception I guess. What I saw as harmless fun and a bad joke others can perceive otherwise. Thus I am banned and posted an apology on the forums.
so much butthurt, chill out and move on
so much butthurt, chill out and move on
goddamn, usually if youre skimming a thread half-assedly you can follow the plus and minus frags to see who tf.tv agrees with and who tf.tv thinks is a shitiot but its all over the place here
bambam gets +10 then -50, defy +15 then -5, jesus christ my brain hurts tell me what to think plz
goddamn, usually if youre skimming a thread half-assedly you can follow the plus and minus frags to see who tf.tv agrees with and who tf.tv thinks is a shitiot but its all over the place here
bambam gets +10 then -50, defy +15 then -5, jesus christ my brain hurts tell me what to think plz
north_korea_down
72.74.93.82
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198083471532
EDIT: and another faggot
70.29.73.246
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198043887432
dfygreat speech can you just go die in a hole now no one cares you're forever labeled as a hacking trashcan. you have now joined the ranks of other shitlords i mentioned in my other post enjoy it does your e-penis having a raging semi? you're aids, you're literally cancer
Stop going to his level, you're making a fool out of yourself
[quote=dfy]great speech can you just go die in a hole now no one cares you're forever labeled as a hacking trashcan. you have now joined the ranks of other shitlords i mentioned in my other post enjoy it does your e-penis having a raging semi? you're aids, you're literally cancer[/quote]
Stop going to his level, you're making a fool out of yourself
Hacker just reappeared in a pug today.
Hacker just reappeared in a pug today.
cheaters aren't cool and while I do think that permanent ip bans might be a bit much (people make mistakes!) I do think admins are generally a little too soft on their punishments. If a formerly known cheater comes back they should be observed more so than others.
footpenis is already suffering as much as we can make him for what hes done, people are making it their personal mission to basically denounce a person who has never interacted with them before. yeah, he did a bad thing, we all know that. he was banned and he apologized, whether it was honest or not, no idea, but thats good enough for me. he'll return after a year and maybe he will hack again, who knows, if he does we deal with it again, maybe more severely next time. Calling him faggot doesn't fix anything.
tl;dr
people are throwing around the word "faggot" way too much and its making me mad.
cheaters aren't cool and while I do think that permanent ip bans might be a bit much (people make mistakes!) I do think admins are generally a little too soft on their punishments. If a formerly known cheater comes back they should be observed more so than others.
footpenis is already suffering as much as we can make him for what hes done, people are making it their personal mission to basically denounce a person who has never interacted with them before. yeah, he did a bad thing, we all know that. he was banned and he apologized, whether it was honest or not, no idea, but thats good enough for me. he'll return after a year and maybe he will hack again, who knows, if he does we deal with it again, maybe more severely next time. Calling him faggot doesn't fix anything.
tl;dr
people are throwing around the word "faggot" way too much and its making me mad.
I do think admins are generally a little too soft on their punishments
HOW TIMES HAVE CHANGED
[quote]I do think admins are generally a little too soft on their punishments[/quote]
HOW TIMES HAVE CHANGED
ah how i remember the days of papasmurf being an admin on tf2.gather.us
ah how i remember the days of papasmurf being an admin on tf2.gather.us
Fognorth_korea_down
72.74.93.82
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198083471532
EDIT: and another faggot
70.29.73.246
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198043887432
the first guy is also linked to this profile
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198017121314
matching ip http://tf2.multiplay.co.uk/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=72.74.93.82&advType=ip
the second guy is probably bullet. hes from toronto and someone in this thread mentioned bullet is also from toronto. you can see he used to alias as eg tree. eg was bullets "team" that he made to try and play in esea and didnt pan out
http://www.tf2logs.com/players/76561198043887432
[quote=Fog]north_korea_down
72.74.93.82
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198083471532
EDIT: and another faggot
70.29.73.246
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198043887432[/quote]
the first guy is also linked to this profile
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198017121314
matching ip http://tf2.multiplay.co.uk/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=72.74.93.82&advType=ip
the second guy is probably bullet. hes from toronto and someone in this thread mentioned bullet is also from toronto. you can see he used to alias as eg tree. eg was bullets "team" that he made to try and play in esea and didnt pan out
http://www.tf2logs.com/players/76561198043887432
downpourcheaters aren't cool and while I do think that permanent ip bans might be a bit much (people make mistakes!) I do think admins are generally a little too soft on their punishments. If a formerly known cheater comes back they should be observed more so than others.
The thing is that this wasn't an accident or a mistake. For the second day in a row, this has been happening where people come in and disrupt pugs with hacking. Right now I'm in the process of writing a random password generator for every pug (at least looking into it). It means that people can't spectate pugs as easily as they used to, and working this with the sub system might be harder as well. I've already banned four idiots so far and don't want people to disrupt the pugs anymore. As far as I'm concerned the bans are permanent (and they are on the servers). I will be looking at my options for improving the quality of pugs.
[quote=downpour]cheaters aren't cool and while I do think that permanent ip bans might be a bit much (people make mistakes!) I do think admins are generally a little too soft on their punishments. If a formerly known cheater comes back they should be observed more so than others.[/quote] The thing is that this wasn't an accident or a mistake. For the second day in a row, this has been happening where people come in and disrupt pugs with hacking. Right now I'm in the process of writing a random password generator for every pug (at least looking into it). It means that people can't spectate pugs as easily as they used to, and working this with the sub system might be harder as well. I've already banned four idiots so far and don't want people to disrupt the pugs anymore. As far as I'm concerned the bans are permanent (and they are on the servers). I will be looking at my options for improving the quality of pugs.
My greatest tf2 accomplishment: I have no idea who any of you people are talking about, especially bullet.
My greatest tf2 accomplishment: I have no idea who any of you people are talking about, especially bullet.
Another thing, with all the recent issue with hackers, I will be self-imposing a zero tolerance policy on hackers. I'm tired of the quality of pugs degrading due to people hacking in pugs.
Another thing, with all the recent issue with hackers, I will be self-imposing a zero tolerance policy on hackers. I'm tired of the quality of pugs degrading due to people hacking in pugs.
real_hack_detectorFognorth_korea_down
72.74.93.82
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198083471532
EDIT: and another faggot
70.29.73.246
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198043887432
the first guy is also linked to this profile
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198017121314
matching ip http://tf2.multiplay.co.uk/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=72.74.93.82&advType=ip
the second guy is probably bullet. hes from toronto and someone in this thread mentioned bullet is also from toronto. you can see he used to alias as eg tree. eg was bullets "team" that he made to try and play in esea and didnt pan out
http://www.tf2logs.com/players/76561198043887432
Do you really need an alt for this?
[quote=real_hack_detector][quote=Fog]north_korea_down
72.74.93.82
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198083471532
EDIT: and another faggot
70.29.73.246
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198043887432[/quote]
the first guy is also linked to this profile
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198017121314
matching ip http://tf2.multiplay.co.uk/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=72.74.93.82&advType=ip
the second guy is probably bullet. hes from toronto and someone in this thread mentioned bullet is also from toronto. you can see he used to alias as eg tree. eg was bullets "team" that he made to try and play in esea and didnt pan out
http://www.tf2logs.com/players/76561198043887432[/quote]
Do you really need an alt for this?
I only skimmed the thread, but a few things popped out to me:
This guy trolled pugs just to troll. He obviously finds that gratifying for whatever reason. The fact that this thread exists beyond just posting their steam profiles/sourceban links is probably just feeding the troll.
You can have a reasoned discussion without devolving into who can take the biggest verbal shit on someone. At this point this thread is just an embarrassment.
Also, stop calling everyone a faggot. Its a fucking ugly word that exists to demean gay people. It has become really common in our culture, and especially online. I myself have even slipped up and used it, but there honestly is no legitimate excuse. Call anyone you like a shithead or nerd or trashcan or whatever, but don't bring in slurs; they just make you look like a bigot.
I only skimmed the thread, but a few things popped out to me:
This guy trolled pugs just to troll. He obviously finds that gratifying for whatever reason. The fact that this thread exists beyond just posting their steam profiles/sourceban links is probably just feeding the troll.
You can have a reasoned discussion without devolving into who can take the biggest verbal shit on someone. At this point this thread is just an embarrassment.
Also, stop calling everyone a faggot. Its a fucking ugly word that exists to demean gay people. It has become really common in our culture, and especially online. I myself have even slipped up and used it, but there honestly is no legitimate excuse. Call anyone you like a shithead or nerd or trashcan or whatever, but don't bring in slurs; they just make you look like a bigot.
SneakyPolarBearI only skimmed the thread, but a few things popped out to me:
This guy trolled pugs just to troll. He obviously finds that gratifying for whatever reason. The fact that this thread exists beyond just posting their steam profiles/sourceban links is probably just feeding the troll.
You can have a reasoned discussion without devolving into who can take the biggest verbal shit on someone. At this point this thread is just an embarrassment.
Also, stop calling everyone a faggot. Its a fucking ugly word that exists to demean gay people. It has become really common in our culture, and especially online. I myself have even slipped up and used it, but there honestly is no legitimate excuse. Call anyone you like a shithead or nerd or trashcan or whatever, but don't bring in slurs; they just make you look like a bigot.
Thank you. Also rape. Please say destroyed, crapped on, etc. In-match comms will never be able to be on our front page because of the excessive use of the word rape.
[quote=SneakyPolarBear]I only skimmed the thread, but a few things popped out to me:
This guy trolled pugs just to troll. He obviously finds that gratifying for whatever reason. The fact that this thread exists beyond just posting their steam profiles/sourceban links is probably just feeding the troll.
You can have a reasoned discussion without devolving into who can take the biggest verbal shit on someone. At this point this thread is just an embarrassment.
Also, stop calling everyone a faggot. Its a fucking ugly word that exists to demean gay people. It has become really common in our culture, and especially online. I myself have even slipped up and used it, but there honestly is no legitimate excuse. Call anyone you like a shithead or nerd or trashcan or whatever, but don't bring in slurs; they just make you look like a bigot.[/quote]
Thank you. Also rape. Please say destroyed, crapped on, etc. In-match comms will never be able to be on our front page because of the excessive use of the word rape.
thats ok some people dont say raped that much
like when rick used to play demo his comms usually consist of
SCOUTS FUCKIN AIRPIPED
thats ok some people dont say raped that much
like when rick used to play demo his comms usually consist of
SCOUTS FUCKIN AIRPIPED
swiperWait what's especially wrong with saying "rape"? I'm female and I say it all the time when I'm playing. Rape is bad, but I'm pretty sure shooting people is worse and we play a game in which that is the main objective.
And you are not an advertiser.
Note: I'm not being rude with this post, but that's the reality of it. Advertisers only want their products up against PG13, high quality content. I'd consider rape to be a worse word than fuck, cock, shit piss and dick. At least in an advertiser's eye.
[quote=swiper]Wait what's especially wrong with saying "rape"? I'm female and I say it all the time when I'm playing. Rape is bad, but I'm pretty sure shooting people is worse and we play a game in which that is the main objective.[/quote]
And you are not an advertiser.
Note: I'm not being rude with this post, but that's the reality of it. Advertisers only want their products up against PG13, high quality content. I'd consider rape to be a worse word than fuck, cock, shit piss and dick. At least in an advertiser's eye.
swiperWait what's especially wrong with saying "rape"? I'm female and I say it all the time when I'm playing. Rape is bad, but I'm pretty sure shooting people is worse and we play a game in which that is the main objective.
So if a game came out where the objective was to go around raping women, people would be like "oh well atleast it's not an FPS"?
[quote=swiper]Wait what's especially wrong with saying "rape"? I'm female and I say it all the time when I'm playing. Rape is bad, but I'm pretty sure shooting people is worse and we play a game in which that is the main objective.[/quote]
So if a game came out where the objective was to go around raping women, people would be like "oh well atleast it's not an FPS"?
FootPenis was on bullets team i think
FootPenis was on bullets team i think
[quote=demise]bump[/quote]
Stop.
demisebump
Bullet finally makes his appearance, and the best he can do is bump. LOL.
[quote=demise]bump[/quote]
Bullet finally makes his appearance, and the best he can do is bump. LOL.
JORGEHey i'm back
who are you again
[quote=JORGE]Hey i'm back[/quote]who are you again