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Wareya, i posted directly after you did. #87. please respond
wareyaok don't show me examples -frag me instead because you're upset that you can't back up your experience
gg
http://www.lingweenie.org/arguing.html
lamefxIt felt good to beat a team like mTs, just like it felt good to beat tangerine with b4nny and cyzer playing. But I would be shocked if anyone on bonus got much of an ego from it. We pretty much all understand that if invite players practiced HL anywhere near as much as 6s it would be completely different.
It does bother me a little when some invite players make comments about HL that make the format seem like a complete joke. I could be wrong about this, but it seems like that kind of view sets an example for a lot of other people in the 6s community. Me and some of the people from bonus made an esea open team this season, and I was surprised by how many people tried to troll us or talk shit about us just because we were HL players. I guess shit talk will happen regardless, but I can see why some people who enjoy playing HL would feel ostracized. That's just been my experience in open though.
As far as the original topic goes, if anyone even cares anymore, we have squider playing scout for us this season, and it's been very interesting listening to his perspective in terms of calling and strategy. I wouldn't say it's drastically changed anything in our meta-game, and squider doesn't always make the right calls, but he's definitely been teaching us some things about pushing, advantages, and positioning. I would say the biggest change has been making the game a little more fast paced with more aggressive and coordinated plays, especially more capitalization on small advantages. I think if HL continues like this it will only get better and more organized. And that's why platinum teams like us really wanted the invite limit lifted in the first place.
from pudding cup
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/1522-invite-player-rule-lifting-made-any-difference/2#post-18461
Wareya, i posted directly after you did. #87. please respond
[quote=wareya]ok don't show me examples -frag me instead because you're upset that you can't back up your experience
gg
http://www.lingweenie.org/arguing.html[/quote]
[quote=lamefx][quote]It felt good to beat a team like mTs, just like it felt good to beat tangerine with b4nny and cyzer playing. But I would be shocked if anyone on bonus got much of an ego from it. We pretty much all understand that if invite players practiced HL anywhere near as much as 6s it would be completely different.
It does bother me a little when some invite players make comments about HL that make the format seem like a complete joke. I could be wrong about this, but it seems like that kind of view sets an example for a lot of other people in the 6s community. Me and some of the people from bonus made an esea open team this season, and I was surprised by how many people tried to troll us or talk shit about us just because we were HL players. I guess shit talk will happen regardless, but I can see why some people who enjoy playing HL would feel ostracized. That's just been my experience in open though.
As far as the original topic goes, if anyone even cares anymore, we have squider playing scout for us this season, and it's been very interesting listening to his perspective in terms of calling and strategy. I wouldn't say it's drastically changed anything in our meta-game, and squider doesn't always make the right calls, but he's definitely been teaching us some things about pushing, advantages, and positioning. I would say the biggest change has been making the game a little more fast paced with more aggressive and coordinated plays, especially more capitalization on small advantages. I think if HL continues like this it will only get better and more organized. And that's why platinum teams like us really wanted the invite limit lifted in the first place.[/quote]
from pudding cup
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/1522-invite-player-rule-lifting-made-any-difference/2#post-18461[/quote]
[quote=wareya]ok don't show me examples -frag me instead because you're upset that you can't back up your experience
gg
http://www.lingweenie.org/arguing.html[/quote]
[quote=lamefx][quote]It felt good to beat a team like mTs, just like it felt good to beat tangerine with b4nny and cyzer playing. But I would be shocked if anyone on bonus got much of an ego from it. We pretty much all understand that if invite players practiced HL anywhere near as much as 6s it would be completely different.
It does bother me a little when some invite players make comments about HL that make the format seem like a complete joke. I could be wrong about this, but it seems like that kind of view sets an example for a lot of other people in the 6s community. Me and some of the people from bonus made an esea open team this season, and I was surprised by how many people tried to troll us or talk shit about us just because we were HL players. I guess shit talk will happen regardless, but I can see why some people who enjoy playing HL would feel ostracized. That's just been my experience in open though.
As far as the original topic goes, if anyone even cares anymore, we have squider playing scout for us this season, and it's been very interesting listening to his perspective in terms of calling and strategy. I wouldn't say it's drastically changed anything in our meta-game, and squider doesn't always make the right calls, but he's definitely been teaching us some things about pushing, advantages, and positioning. I would say the biggest change has been making the game a little more fast paced with more aggressive and coordinated plays, especially more capitalization on small advantages. I think if HL continues like this it will only get better and more organized. And that's why platinum teams like us really wanted the invite limit lifted in the first place.[/quote]
from pudding cup
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/1522-invite-player-rule-lifting-made-any-difference/2#post-18461[/quote]
It seems like the league gets a lot of criticism from their decisions that are obviously made to cater to lower level players. Would it be possible to have a separate maplist and item bans for platinum so both the high level players and low level players are happy?
It seems like the league gets a lot of criticism from their decisions that are obviously made to cater to lower level players. Would it be possible to have a separate maplist and item bans for platinum so both the high level players and low level players are happy?
#93:
that is not an example of 6s players being snide about HL, and it has nothing to do with the person I was responding to either, so I had no reason to believe it was in response to me whatsoever. there are a million reasons that open 6s players could've been being trash talking people from bonus and "just because we were HL players" is an extremely bold claim. unless someone brings up actual logs or gets some of the people who were doing trash talking to say what was going on there's no point in it. the whole point of why I'm posting in this argument here is to get out the point that, no, getting trash talked by 6s players as a HL player doesn't mean that your format is being persecuted -- or at the very very least not at a community wide level to the point where pinning it on "6s" players even makes sense.
the thing about invite players making HL seem like a joke is an entirely different topic, here.
#93:
that is not an example of 6s players being snide about HL, and it has nothing to do with the person I was responding to either, so I had no reason to believe it was in response to me whatsoever. there are a million reasons that open 6s players could've been being trash talking people from bonus and "just because we were HL players" is an extremely bold claim. unless someone brings up actual logs or gets some of the people who were doing trash talking to say what was going on there's no point in it. the whole point of why I'm posting in this argument here is to get out the point that, no, getting trash talked by 6s players as a HL player doesn't mean that your format is being persecuted -- or at the very very least not at a community wide level to the point where pinning it on "6s" players even makes sense.
the thing about invite players making HL seem like a joke is an entirely different topic, here.
that is not an example of 6s players being snide about HL, and it has nothing to do with the person I was responding to either, so I had no reason to believe it was in response to me whatsoever. there are a million reasons that open 6s players could've been being trash talking people from bonus and "just because we were HL players" is an extremely bold claim. unless someone brings up actual logs or gets some of the people who were doing trash talking to say what was going on there's no point in it. the whole point of why I'm posting in this argument here is to get out the point that, no, getting trash talked by 6s players as a HL player doesn't mean that your format is being persecuted -- or at the very very least not at a community wide level to the point where pinning it on "6s" players even makes sense.
the thing about invite players making HL seem like a joke is an entirely different topic, here.
Wareya just please stop talking. Your opinion is not valued.
Wareya just please stop talking. Your opinion is not valued.
great argument there man 10/10 would put on a resume
great argument there man 10/10 would put on a resume
wareya#93:
that is not an example of 6s players being snide about HL, and it has nothing to do with the person I was responding to either, so I had no reason to believe it was in response to me whatsoever. there are a million reasons that open 6s players could've been being trash talking people from bonus and "just because we were HL players" is an extremely bold claim. unless someone brings up actual logs or gets some of the people who were doing trash talking to say what was going on there's no point in it. the whole point of why I'm posting in this argument here is to get out the point that, no, getting trash talked by 6s players as a HL player doesn't mean that your format is being persecuted -- or at the very very least not at a community wide level to the point where pinning it on "6s" players even makes sense.
the thing about invite players making HL seem like a joke is an entirely different topic, here.
My point is that TF.TV is trying to be a hub for all TF2. Clearly HL players feel ostracized here. There must be some reason for it. Why should I assume that he is making a bold claim. Why should i assume he is lying.
I realize -frags don't mean anything but they do state peoples opinions. This post had -6. http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/5429-proposition-mutual-mentoring-for-spy-mains. what was so bad about the post that it deserved to be minus fragged?
So again, HL players for whatever reason don't feel welcome. i just think that should change.
[quote=wareya]#93:
that is not an example of 6s players being snide about HL, and it has nothing to do with the person I was responding to either, so I had no reason to believe it was in response to me whatsoever. there are a million reasons that open 6s players could've been being trash talking people from bonus and "just because we were HL players" is an extremely bold claim. unless someone brings up actual logs or gets some of the people who were doing trash talking to say what was going on there's no point in it. the whole point of why I'm posting in this argument here is to get out the point that, no, getting trash talked by 6s players as a HL player doesn't mean that your format is being persecuted -- or at the very very least not at a community wide level to the point where pinning it on "6s" players even makes sense.
the thing about invite players making HL seem like a joke is an entirely different topic, here.[/quote]
My point is that TF.TV is trying to be a hub for all TF2. Clearly HL players feel ostracized here. There must be some reason for it. Why should I assume that he is making a bold claim. Why should i assume he is lying.
I realize -frags don't mean anything but they do state peoples opinions. This post had -6. http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/5429-proposition-mutual-mentoring-for-spy-mains. what was so bad about the post that it deserved to be minus fragged?
So again, HL players for whatever reason don't feel welcome. i just think that should change.
that is not an example of 6s players being snide about HL, and it has nothing to do with the person I was responding to either, so I had no reason to believe it was in response to me whatsoever. there are a million reasons that open 6s players could've been being trash talking people from bonus and "just because we were HL players" is an extremely bold claim. unless someone brings up actual logs or gets some of the people who were doing trash talking to say what was going on there's no point in it. the whole point of why I'm posting in this argument here is to get out the point that, no, getting trash talked by 6s players as a HL player doesn't mean that your format is being persecuted -- or at the very very least not at a community wide level to the point where pinning it on "6s" players even makes sense.
the thing about invite players making HL seem like a joke is an entirely different topic, here.[/quote]
My point is that TF.TV is trying to be a hub for all TF2. Clearly HL players feel ostracized here. There must be some reason for it. Why should I assume that he is making a bold claim. Why should i assume he is lying.
I realize -frags don't mean anything but they do state peoples opinions. This post had -6. http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/5429-proposition-mutual-mentoring-for-spy-mains. what was so bad about the post that it deserved to be minus fragged?
So again, HL players for whatever reason don't feel welcome. i just think that should change.
just for record: I don't assume he's lying, or even exaggerating, but I can't take what he says for granted regardless and it would be several times better of a statement with some kind of backup. nothing wrong with just posting about an experience like that as part of a larger whole, but when it's taken into a new context and a new argument things change and I couldn't just read it off like that.
disclaimer aside, that's very reasonable and I can concede to that.
just for record: I don't assume he's lying, or even exaggerating, but I can't take what he says for granted regardless and it would be several times better of a statement with some kind of backup. nothing wrong with just posting about an experience like that as part of a larger whole, but when it's taken into a new context and a new argument things change and I couldn't just read it off like that.
disclaimer aside, that's very reasonable and I can concede to that.
disclaimer aside, that's very reasonable and I can concede to that.
wareyaok don't show me examples -frag me instead because you're upset that you can't back up your experience
gg
http://www.lingweenie.org/arguing.html
I didnt -frag you. I didnt look for examples, so i didnt respond.
[quote=wareya]ok don't show me examples -frag me instead because you're upset that you can't back up your experience
gg
http://www.lingweenie.org/arguing.html[/quote]
I didnt -frag you. I didnt look for examples, so i didnt respond.
gg
http://www.lingweenie.org/arguing.html[/quote]
I didnt -frag you. I didnt look for examples, so i didnt respond.
Because the admins wanted at least one CTF map in the map pool, and everyone hates turbine.
Because the admins wanted at least one CTF map in the map pool, and everyone hates turbine.
can cbear/sal give any indication as to which questions will be asked
can cbear/sal give any indication as to which questions will be asked
Posting on behalf of ElenaMorning who is too Irish to fix login problems on this website.
1. Why isn't RedRum also a guest? He's one of my favorites.
2. How can people contribute, honestly, besides map testing and becoming an admin?
3. Are there any actions of current admins that you don't support?
Oh, a controversial 4th.
What is your view on the reports and conversations about sexual harassment that are happening in UGC lately?
I actually think it would be beneficial to have a straightforward admin ruling on this, besides deleted posts and quiet player suspensions.
Posting on behalf of ElenaMorning who is too Irish to fix login problems on this website.
1. Why isn't RedRum also a guest? He's one of my favorites.
2. How can people contribute, honestly, besides map testing and becoming an admin?
3. Are there any actions of current admins that you don't support?
Oh, a controversial 4th.
What is your view on the reports and conversations about sexual harassment that are happening in UGC lately?
I actually think it would be beneficial to have a straightforward admin ruling on this, besides deleted posts and quiet player suspensions.
1. Why isn't RedRum also a guest? He's one of my favorites.
2. How can people contribute, honestly, besides map testing and becoming an admin?
3. Are there any actions of current admins that you don't support?
Oh, a controversial 4th.
What is your view on the reports and conversations about sexual harassment that are happening in UGC lately?
I actually think it would be beneficial to have a straightforward admin ruling on this, besides deleted posts and quiet player suspensions.
Two questions.
First off: Why the hell did you pick such shitty maps for this season? Honestly, I'm fine with you guys messing around with the maps, and testing out how custom maps do, but don't try more than two a season. Please. Thank you.
Secondly, this ones directed at infinite, WHY WAS BISCUITTTT BANNED FROM IRONNNN?! Unban him asap pleaase
Two questions.
First off: Why the hell did you pick such shitty maps for this season? Honestly, I'm fine with you guys messing around with the maps, and testing out how custom maps do, but don't try more than two a season. Please. Thank you.
Secondly, this ones directed at infinite, WHY WAS BISCUITTTT BANNED FROM IRONNNN?! Unban him asap pleaase
First off: Why the hell did you pick such shitty maps for this season? Honestly, I'm fine with you guys messing around with the maps, and testing out how custom maps do, but don't try more than two a season. Please. Thank you.
Secondly, this ones directed at infinite, WHY WAS BISCUITTTT BANNED FROM IRONNNN?! Unban him asap pleaase
On a lighter note, why not ask the how they're doing
On a lighter note, why not ask the how they're doing
I don't even know what these sexual harassment allegations are. Anyone care to summarize?
I don't even know what these sexual harassment allegations are. Anyone care to summarize?
SalamancerI don't even know what these sexual harassment allegations are. Anyone care to summarize?
If it's the 'sexism' thread that I heard about a couple weeks ago (and then made an account for the sole purpose of making a post in it), the thread was closed and removed, and thank God they did, it was an embarrassment to the community.
[quote=Salamancer]I don't even know what these sexual harassment allegations are. Anyone care to summarize?[/quote]
If it's the 'sexism' thread that I heard about a couple weeks ago (and then made an account for the sole purpose of making a post in it), the thread was closed and removed, and thank God they did, it was an embarrassment to the community.
If it's the 'sexism' thread that I heard about a couple weeks ago (and then made an account for the sole purpose of making a post in it), the thread was closed and removed, and thank God they did, it was an embarrassment to the community.
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