http://teamfortress.tv/servers
they're on that list

I find the idea that, "we can't have a sniper because it weakens the team" in DM mod, to be really foolish. It's DM mod, not a team mod. Even if it were true, your "team" at a disadvantage is a strong way to practice. When your team loses one extra guy than they kill in a match what will happen in that situation?

That being said the fog servers aren't the only DM servers, and it's nice to see fog trying to poll the community and create the most desired DM environment, that is greatly appreciated. But I do think some of you are batshit crazy with your grand notions of DMmod...and it's not just because I'm a shitty, sniper loving, gotta get dem headshotz, no talent, washed up, hack.

(that's only part of it)

its a server that represents teamfortresstv and it's for the community

If you want snipers, 8 stickies, and ridiculous unlocks, put on your clownshoes and go to the eXtv servers. The rest of us will continue to enjoy fog's.

Everybody has different tastes and ideas for how a DM server should be. All I can really do at this point is to take a general consensus of what people want and apply it.

My servers do represent the TeamFortress.TV name and the community after all.

can we turn teamfire on like cs dm maps
so we have more people to shoot

I still don't understand why people are arguing about whether or not the TeamFortress.tv servers are better than the eXtv servers. There are two options now, instead of one. Relax, both will stay up, as each have a consistent number of players populating them.

limiting stickies to 2 is pretty much saying, fuck you to demos.

how often can you say you actually kill something in exactly 2 stickies? generally its 3 or 4.

as someone with a grand total of 35 hours on the demolitions man class, i find sticky placement and aim to be one of the more difficult things to learn. (not as hard as rollouts or hitting unaware people with pipes, ok, w/e.) at the same time, i haven't noticed a massive change in demo effectiveness between eXtv and teamfortresstv. the class is still mostly dependent on pipes for direct damage and stickies for zoning, whether it's 8 or 2. certainly it's weakened by longer reload time, which could be changed i suppose, but in practice i still die to demos just as much—hardly under/overpowered really

I say that the 2 sticky limit is fine. I don't main demo and I never have, but I still feel as if pipes should be the main focus of improving when you're in a DM server, not stickies. The soldier and scout both have pretty good secondaries, sure, but that doesn't mean the demo needs EIGHT stickies. Make it 4 and it's fine, or if you keep it at 2 then it's whatever.

Could you change the MOTD? Having a stream play in game is horrible. No, I wont disable motd.

I need to think of a much better MOTD then what I had. It was a good idea at the time I thought :(

maybe have enigma create a www.teamfortress.tv/motd page for the dm servers, and link to various community pages/sites, in addition to other servers ofc

Any chance we could get something to show accuracy or damage/dpm?

would have to ask turts about that. he had/has his own dm mod accuracy plugin

I think we should limit the Scattergun and the Rocket Launcher to 2 if we are going to limit the Sticky Launcher to 2 shots. Or you know, people can stop complaining and learn to actual practice in practice mods. Stop taking it so seriously.

i think 2 stickies at a time is perfect. that's all you need to be practicing sticky dm and you shouldn't be laying more than 2 anyways. and like someone said earlier pipes should be main focus.

That post wasn't meant to be serious. My post was meant to be taken as, you can never really stop the gayness that comes with DM. People will always play dumb and care about their k/d in practice mods. Scouts will continue to shoot people in the back then run once you turn around. And soldiers will continue to jump on your head. That's the DM life.