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i would like to add ccleaner is a great essential tool to have to declutter junk and registry leftovers which might improve your overall pc performance
i would like to add ccleaner is a great essential tool to have to declutter junk and registry leftovers which might improve your overall pc performance
7 to 12 could be on a "Windows stuff" category
also maybe add a part about scanning your computer for malware and bloat that could be taking up system resources with malwarebytes or SUPERANTISPYWARE
edit: also -high in launch options can cause input lag AFAIK although it could be good if you are DESPERATE for FPS in a laptop or something (gives high priority to hl2.exe)
most of the other stuff in launch options is proven to do nothing at all for fps
7 to 12 could be on a "Windows stuff" category
also maybe add a part about scanning your computer for malware and bloat that could be taking up system resources with malwarebytes or SUPERANTISPYWARE
edit: also -high in launch options can cause input lag AFAIK although it could be good if you are DESPERATE for FPS in a laptop or something (gives high priority to hl2.exe)
most of the other stuff in launch options is proven to do nothing at all for fps
also maybe add a part about scanning your computer for malware and bloat that could be taking up system resources with malwarebytes or SUPERANTISPYWARE
edit: also -high in launch options can cause input lag AFAIK although it could be good if you are DESPERATE for FPS in a laptop or something (gives high priority to hl2.exe)
most of the other stuff in launch options is proven to do nothing at all for fps
why not just turn off icons/background(windows 10 only) if you think they affect fps
also 3 is snake oil
why not just turn off icons/background(windows 10 only) if you think they affect fps
also 3 is snake oil
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http://i.imgur.com/9QhuWya.png[/img]
also 3 is snake oil
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http://i.imgur.com/9QhuWya.png[/img]
i also feel like ur launch options arent great since ur adding useless stuff like threads and nod3d9ex but you can prove me wrong if you provide benchmarks
from my experience experimenting with dxlevels/launch options
-dxlevel 80 -full -w WIDTH -h HEIGHT -console -novid -high (most fps but 81 is more stable, 80 fluctuates the most)
-dxlevel 81 -full -w WIDTH -h HEIGHT -console -novid -high (great fps great stability)
-dxlevel 90 -full -w WIDTH -h HEIGHT -console -novid -high (dx9 might give the same amount of fps as dx8 depending on your build, usually on higher end pcs. best stability of the 3 dxlevels)
i also feel like ur launch options arent great since ur adding useless stuff like threads and nod3d9ex but you can prove me wrong if you provide benchmarks
from my experience experimenting with dxlevels/launch options
-dxlevel 80 -full -w WIDTH -h HEIGHT -console -novid -high (most fps but 81 is more stable, 80 fluctuates the most)
-dxlevel 81 -full -w WIDTH -h HEIGHT -console -novid -high (great fps great stability)
-dxlevel 90 -full -w WIDTH -h HEIGHT -console -novid -high (dx9 might give the same amount of fps as dx8 depending on your build, usually on higher end pcs. best stability of the 3 dxlevels)
from my experience experimenting with dxlevels/launch options
-dxlevel 80 -full -w WIDTH -h HEIGHT -console -novid -high (most fps but 81 is more stable, 80 fluctuates the most)
-dxlevel 81 -full -w WIDTH -h HEIGHT -console -novid -high (great fps great stability)
-dxlevel 90 -full -w WIDTH -h HEIGHT -console -novid -high (dx9 might give the same amount of fps as dx8 depending on your build, usually on higher end pcs. best stability of the 3 dxlevels)
Ninlopand no desktop icons each icon reduces about 1 to 2 FPS
wot?
Also how do you disable them in windows 10?
[quote=Ninlop]and no desktop icons each icon reduces about 1 to 2 FPS[/quote]
wot?
Also how do you disable them in windows 10?
wot?
Also how do you disable them in windows 10?
ZeRo5Ninlopand no desktop icons each icon reduces about 1 to 2 FPSwot?
Also how do you disable them in windows 10?
you don't disable them, you just don't make any desktop icons
[quote=ZeRo5][quote=Ninlop]and no desktop icons each icon reduces about 1 to 2 FPS[/quote]
wot?
Also how do you disable them in windows 10?[/quote]
you don't disable them, you just don't make any desktop icons
wot?
Also how do you disable them in windows 10?[/quote]
you don't disable them, you just don't make any desktop icons
wi would like to add ccleaner is a great essential tool to have to declutter junk and registry leftovers which might improve your overall pc performance
Registry cleaners are not good , I doubt ccleaner will give you a 5 fps boost unless you really have alot of crap
VulcanZeRo5you don't disable them, you just don't make any desktop iconsNinlopand no desktop icons each icon reduces about 1 to 2 FPSwot?
Also how do you disable them in windows 10?
right click then view then click on the show desktop icons thing ?
i think -threads and -high don't matter that much ( 2 fps boost with -high ) and some csgo guides say removing them is better for stability but i don't know if it's the same for TF2
[quote=w]i would like to add ccleaner is a great essential tool to have to declutter junk and registry leftovers which might improve your overall pc performance[/quote] Registry cleaners are not good , I doubt ccleaner will give you a 5 fps boost unless you really have alot of crap
[quote=Vulcan][quote=ZeRo5][quote=Ninlop]and no desktop icons each icon reduces about 1 to 2 FPS[/quote]
wot?
Also how do you disable them in windows 10?[/quote]
you don't disable them, you just don't make any desktop icons[/quote]
right click then view then click on the show desktop icons thing ?
i think -threads and -high don't matter that much ( 2 fps boost with -high ) and some csgo guides say removing them is better for stability but i don't know if it's the same for TF2
[quote=Vulcan][quote=ZeRo5][quote=Ninlop]and no desktop icons each icon reduces about 1 to 2 FPS[/quote]
wot?
Also how do you disable them in windows 10?[/quote]
you don't disable them, you just don't make any desktop icons[/quote]
right click then view then click on the show desktop icons thing ?
i think -threads and -high don't matter that much ( 2 fps boost with -high ) and some csgo guides say removing them is better for stability but i don't know if it's the same for TF2
9. Nvidia MSI-Mode
1) computer management > device manager > display adapters > nvidia > right click on properties > details > hardware id's here you will find your GPU ID to use in part 2
2) regedit > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\currentcontrolset\enum\PCI\GPU ID\GPU ID\device parameters\Interrupt management
3) create a new DWORD 32 bit value named MSISupported and set it to 1
This links the CPU and GPU allowing for faster responsiveness
Some GPUs already have this and i tried it didn't make that much difference in fps but i would try it because i didn't get any problems with it.
[quote]9. Nvidia MSI-Mode
1) computer management > device manager > display adapters > nvidia > right click on properties > details > hardware id's here you will find your GPU ID to use in part 2
2) regedit > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\currentcontrolset\enum\PCI\GPU ID\GPU ID\device parameters\Interrupt management
3) create a new DWORD 32 bit value named MSISupported and set it to 1
This links the CPU and GPU allowing for faster responsiveness[/quote]
Some GPUs already have this and i tried it didn't make that much difference in fps but i would try it because i didn't get any problems with it.
1) computer management > device manager > display adapters > nvidia > right click on properties > details > hardware id's here you will find your GPU ID to use in part 2
2) regedit > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\currentcontrolset\enum\PCI\GPU ID\GPU ID\device parameters\Interrupt management
3) create a new DWORD 32 bit value named MSISupported and set it to 1
This links the CPU and GPU allowing for faster responsiveness[/quote]
Some GPUs already have this and i tried it didn't make that much difference in fps but i would try it because i didn't get any problems with it.
5. Parked CPU Cores
Click to download
run the program then select check status wait till it identifies parked cores then click unpark all
You can leave your CPU cores parked , i tried and when i have TF2 open they get unparked and tried benchmarking and no increase in fps , maybe you will get a increase in idle temps ? i don't know i reinstall windows alot and sometimes i unpark and sometimes i dont.
4. Desktop and walpapers
Use solid black colour as a wallpaper and no desktop icons each icon reduces about 1 to 2 FPS
Solid Black colour wallpapers gave me 5 fps boost on my old laptop.
11. Personalisation
start > control panel > appearaance and personalisation > personalisation
choose: desktop background solid colours, windows classic (apparently not on windows 10 however im sure you can download a classic theme online), No windows sounds(slight fps improvement some people prefer this on), Screen Saver None
Installing a classic theme for windows 10 will not increase fps.
[quote]5. Parked CPU Cores
Click to download
run the program then select check status wait till it identifies parked cores then click unpark all[/quote]
You can leave your CPU cores parked , i tried and when i have TF2 open they get unparked and tried benchmarking and no increase in fps , maybe you will get a increase in idle temps ? i don't know i reinstall windows alot and sometimes i unpark and sometimes i dont.
[quote]4. Desktop and walpapers
Use solid black colour as a wallpaper and no desktop icons each icon reduces about 1 to 2 FPS[/quote]
Solid Black colour wallpapers gave me 5 fps boost on my old laptop.
[quote]11. Personalisation
start > control panel > appearaance and personalisation > personalisation
choose: desktop background solid colours, windows classic (apparently not on windows 10 however im sure you can download a classic theme online), No windows sounds(slight fps improvement some people prefer this on), Screen Saver None[/quote]
Installing a classic theme for windows 10 will not increase fps.
Click to download
run the program then select check status wait till it identifies parked cores then click unpark all[/quote]
You can leave your CPU cores parked , i tried and when i have TF2 open they get unparked and tried benchmarking and no increase in fps , maybe you will get a increase in idle temps ? i don't know i reinstall windows alot and sometimes i unpark and sometimes i dont.
[quote]4. Desktop and walpapers
Use solid black colour as a wallpaper and no desktop icons each icon reduces about 1 to 2 FPS[/quote]
Solid Black colour wallpapers gave me 5 fps boost on my old laptop.
[quote]11. Personalisation
start > control panel > appearaance and personalisation > personalisation
choose: desktop background solid colours, windows classic (apparently not on windows 10 however im sure you can download a classic theme online), No windows sounds(slight fps improvement some people prefer this on), Screen Saver None[/quote]
Installing a classic theme for windows 10 will not increase fps.
Ninlopaierawhy not just turn off icons/background(windows 10 only) if you think they affect fps
also 3 is snake oil
http://i.imgur.com/9QhuWya.png
could you please comment the full launch options from that would be useful to add
https://github.com/mastercoms/tf2cfg/tree/master/mastercoms/cfg
-novid -nojoy -noff -nohltv -high -nouserclip -softparticlesdefaultoff -reuse -usetcp -primarysound -snoforceformat -disable_d3d9_hacks
try them and see if they increase fps i wouldn't add them before doing that.
[quote=Ninlop][quote=aiera]why not just turn off icons/background(windows 10 only) if you think they affect fps
also 3 is snake oil
[img]
http://i.imgur.com/9QhuWya.png[/img][/quote]
could you please comment the full launch options from that would be useful to add[/quote]
https://github.com/mastercoms/tf2cfg/tree/master/mastercoms/cfg
-novid -nojoy -noff -nohltv -high -nouserclip -softparticlesdefaultoff -reuse -usetcp -primarysound -snoforceformat -disable_d3d9_hacks
try them and see if they increase fps i wouldn't add them before doing that.
also 3 is snake oil
[img]
http://i.imgur.com/9QhuWya.png[/img][/quote]
could you please comment the full launch options from that would be useful to add[/quote]
https://github.com/mastercoms/tf2cfg/tree/master/mastercoms/cfg
-novid -nojoy -noff -nohltv -high -nouserclip -softparticlesdefaultoff -reuse -usetcp -primarysound -snoforceformat -disable_d3d9_hacks
try them and see if they increase fps i wouldn't add them before doing that.
glad you made another fps guide we really needed more
glad you made another fps guide we really needed more
Ninlopaierawhy not just turn off icons/background(windows 10 only) if you think they affect fps
also 3 is snake oil
http://i.imgur.com/9QhuWya.png
could you please comment the full launch options from that would be useful to add
end your lfie (unironic)
[quote=Ninlop][quote=aiera]why not just turn off icons/background(windows 10 only) if you think they affect fps
also 3 is snake oil
[img]
http://i.imgur.com/9QhuWya.png[/img][/quote]
could you please comment the full launch options from that would be useful to add[/quote]
end your lfie (unironic)
also 3 is snake oil
[img]
http://i.imgur.com/9QhuWya.png[/img][/quote]
could you please comment the full launch options from that would be useful to add[/quote]
end your lfie (unironic)
Ninlopthe reason i put things such as -nod3d9ex -nojoy into launch options is because AFAIK it means its another process running within tf2 the fps increase wont be drastic but present, i have ordered new pc parts cos my pc blew up xd but when i get that i will do benchmarks with various settings so we can figure out what parts make a difference and what parts don't, this initially back in 2016 was intended for people who wanted literally the highest frame rates possible which is why there are settings which make minimal improvements, because at the end of the day its still an improvement, thankyou fro contributing to this thread like i said ill do a set of bench marks so we can figure out what makes a difference and what doesnt.
Don't use -nod3d9ex. It only increases FPS if your card or drivers are broken with Direct3D 9EX. It improves performance otherwise by using more efficient window display techniques.
sendglad you made another fps guide we really needed more
Yes we did. There are a lot of improvements that can be made on top of already popular FPS configs, especially now that Comanglia is discontinuing his.
sageedit: also -high in launch options can cause input lag AFAIK although it could be good if you are DESPERATE for FPS in a laptop or something (gives high priority to hl2.exe)
-high does not cause input lag unless you have broken input drivers somehow. High does not prevent OS level tasks from running, they still take priority.
[quote=Ninlop]the reason i put things such as -nod3d9ex -nojoy into launch options is because AFAIK it means its another process running within tf2 the fps increase wont be drastic but present, i have ordered new pc parts cos my pc blew up xd but when i get that i will do benchmarks with various settings so we can figure out what parts make a difference and what parts don't, this initially back in 2016 was intended for people who wanted literally the highest frame rates possible which is why there are settings which make minimal improvements, because at the end of the day its still an improvement, thankyou fro contributing to this thread like i said ill do a set of bench marks so we can figure out what makes a difference and what doesnt.[/quote]
Don't use -nod3d9ex. It only increases FPS if your card or drivers are broken with Direct3D 9EX. It improves performance otherwise by using more efficient window display techniques.
[quote=send]glad you made another fps guide we really needed more[/quote]
Yes we did. There are a lot of improvements that can be made on top of already popular FPS configs, especially now that Comanglia is discontinuing his.
[quote=sage]
edit: also -high in launch options can cause input lag AFAIK although it could be good if you are DESPERATE for FPS in a laptop or something (gives high priority to hl2.exe)[/quote]
-high does not cause input lag unless you have broken input drivers somehow. High does not prevent OS level tasks from running, they still take priority.
Don't use -nod3d9ex. It only increases FPS if your card or drivers are broken with Direct3D 9EX. It improves performance otherwise by using more efficient window display techniques.
[quote=send]glad you made another fps guide we really needed more[/quote]
Yes we did. There are a lot of improvements that can be made on top of already popular FPS configs, especially now that Comanglia is discontinuing his.
[quote=sage]
edit: also -high in launch options can cause input lag AFAIK although it could be good if you are DESPERATE for FPS in a laptop or something (gives high priority to hl2.exe)[/quote]
-high does not cause input lag unless you have broken input drivers somehow. High does not prevent OS level tasks from running, they still take priority.
Ninlop2.5 Graphics configs
common sense and preferance here pick what you like but understand higher graphical settings will lower frame rates
i honestly disagree with this, i've experienced it first hand and there are tons of people out there who have had increased fps by turning the graphics settings up, models and textures in particular
[quote=Ninlop]
2.5 Graphics configs
common sense and preferance here pick what you like but understand higher graphical settings will lower frame rates
[/quote]
i honestly disagree with this, i've experienced it first hand and there are tons of people out there who have had increased fps by turning the graphics settings [b]up[/b], models and textures in particular
2.5 Graphics configs
common sense and preferance here pick what you like but understand higher graphical settings will lower frame rates
[/quote]
i honestly disagree with this, i've experienced it first hand and there are tons of people out there who have had increased fps by turning the graphics settings [b]up[/b], models and textures in particular
netwrkjrki honestly disagree with this, i've experienced it first hand and there are tons of people out there who have had increased fps by turning the graphics settings up, models and textures in particular
I'd really like to see benchmarks on this, because from what I know, it just isn't true. Sure, there are some options which are seen as lower quality that are actually unoptimized for modern PCs (accessible only through launch options and CVars), but models and texture quality are not part of those options.
[quote=netwrkjrk]
i honestly disagree with this, i've experienced it first hand and there are tons of people out there who have had increased fps by turning the graphics settings [b]up[/b], models and textures in particular[/quote]
I'd really like to see benchmarks on this, because from what I know, it just isn't true. Sure, there are some options which are seen as lower quality that are actually unoptimized for modern PCs (accessible only through launch options and CVars), but models and texture quality are not part of those options.
i honestly disagree with this, i've experienced it first hand and there are tons of people out there who have had increased fps by turning the graphics settings [b]up[/b], models and textures in particular[/quote]
I'd really like to see benchmarks on this, because from what I know, it just isn't true. Sure, there are some options which are seen as lower quality that are actually unoptimized for modern PCs (accessible only through launch options and CVars), but models and texture quality are not part of those options.
Ninlopthis would be down to gpu and cpu limitations, AFAIK if your pc is cpu limited then you'll find that graphics settings will have little to no affect on your frame rate but lowering your resolution will increase frame rates, and if your pc is gpu limited then you'll find that resolution has little to no effect on frame rates but lowering graphics settings will increase frame rates
most people won't be in one extreme they'll likely be slightly gpu limited or slightly cpu limited, so its a safe bet to run on lowest settings and youll most likely see an improvement
Resolution is more intensive on the GPU than CPU. Things like prop physics, ragdolls, some lighting calculations, sound, etc are affected by CPU performance.
[quote=Ninlop]
this would be down to gpu and cpu limitations, AFAIK if your pc is cpu limited then you'll find that graphics settings will have little to no affect on your frame rate but lowering your resolution will increase frame rates, and if your pc is gpu limited then you'll find that resolution has little to no effect on frame rates but lowering graphics settings will increase frame rates
most people won't be in one extreme they'll likely be slightly gpu limited or slightly cpu limited, so its a safe bet to run on lowest settings and youll most likely see an improvement[/quote]
Resolution is more intensive on the GPU than CPU. Things like prop physics, ragdolls, some lighting calculations, sound, etc are affected by CPU performance.
this would be down to gpu and cpu limitations, AFAIK if your pc is cpu limited then you'll find that graphics settings will have little to no affect on your frame rate but lowering your resolution will increase frame rates, and if your pc is gpu limited then you'll find that resolution has little to no effect on frame rates but lowering graphics settings will increase frame rates
most people won't be in one extreme they'll likely be slightly gpu limited or slightly cpu limited, so its a safe bet to run on lowest settings and youll most likely see an improvement[/quote]
Resolution is more intensive on the GPU than CPU. Things like prop physics, ragdolls, some lighting calculations, sound, etc are affected by CPU performance.
Ninlopmost people won't be in one extreme they'll likely be slightly gpu limited or slightly cpu limited, so its a safe bet to run on lowest settings and youll most likely see an improvement
This isn't true. Just about anyone with a semi modern GPU will be massively CPU limited. My old 4870 (a 9 year old graphics card) was still CPU limited. Only people on integrated or EXTREMELY shit GPUs (gt 710) will ever be GPU limited.
[quote=Ninlop]most people won't be in one extreme they'll likely be slightly gpu limited or slightly cpu limited, so its a safe bet to run on lowest settings and youll most likely see an improvement[/quote]
This isn't true. Just about anyone with a semi modern GPU will be massively CPU limited. My old 4870 (a 9 year old graphics card) was still CPU limited. Only people on integrated or EXTREMELY shit GPUs (gt 710) will ever be GPU limited.
This isn't true. Just about anyone with a semi modern GPU will be massively CPU limited. My old 4870 (a 9 year old graphics card) was still CPU limited. Only people on integrated or EXTREMELY shit GPUs (gt 710) will ever be GPU limited.
5. Core parking is not a bad thing. The OS is much smarter about knowing what cores to use a specific time, so it intelligently parks cores.
9. The registry key is wrong. If it was a good idea to set it, the DWORD should be in \Device Parameters\Interrupt Management\MessageSignaledInterruptProperties. However, the driver has a better idea than you to set this setting, so you shouldn't do it. It can cause overusage of the CPU and slowdowns.
5. Core parking is not a bad thing. The OS is much smarter about knowing what cores to use a specific time, so it intelligently parks cores.
9. The registry key is wrong. If it was a good idea to set it, the DWORD should be in \Device Parameters\Interrupt Management\MessageSignaledInterruptProperties. However, the driver has a better idea than you to set this setting, so you shouldn't do it. It can cause overusage of the CPU and slowdowns.
9. The registry key is wrong. If it was a good idea to set it, the DWORD should be in \Device Parameters\Interrupt Management\MessageSignaledInterruptProperties. However, the driver has a better idea than you to set this setting, so you shouldn't do it. It can cause overusage of the CPU and slowdowns.
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