its like a huge track field that never ends

I've never played it but it can't possibly be worse than standin

I feel like its going to be a very, very slow map. Also pushing out if last seems near impossible. And there are so many places to check to avoid getting backcapped.

time played on map: 1 hour 15 minutes

time actually spent playing: 15 minutes

kalkin why didnt you fucking put koth_ashville in map vote

seriously, this map looks like trash compared to koth

This is why people need to scrim maps. You can't expect PUGs to show how well a map will work in a setting where two teams who actually have played with each other before are trying their hardest to win.

Also, better map choices would have been nice. This was probably the best option aside from voting Warmfront back in.

croissant is the best unplayed 5cp map but I won't go around saying it's flawless like process
croissant > ashville 2012

big scorpio 2 shit maps 1 decent one rip

croissant is one of the most boring maps in history

should've been thankful for warmfront, i loved that map.

I agree, but only about old versions. The latest version with the last point changes is fucking fascinating.

Are you brain dead? That is still the worst fucking map I have ever played.

freight/follower s13

Wow, rude. Can't believe it's worse than follower, though. I loved croissant whenever I played it (roamer and medic), but I don't know about the other classes. The only flaws I can see in it right now is the weirdness of the connecting area between 2/4 and last - most 5cp maps only have two flat levels, where croissant has a labyrinth. It's not used often, and it would be worth rebuilding that part of the map. Aside from that, and just maybe the fact that there's no good shortcut to bypass 2/4 on the rollout to mid to excuse the size of the map (like there is on badlands and process) the map is extremely interesting to me and I love playing on it.

if the spawns on freight were fixed it would be a sweet map

follower isnt that bad it's just a tad too long and wide.. the layout would be amazing once condensed.

As for croissant, rando hit the nail on the head. its complete shit

KOTH GRANARY S13

I TOLD YOU TO KEEP WARMFRONT

but i cant say ive scrimmed ashville yet, but warmfront is still amazing

i agree, warmfront was a good map.

standin was fucking baller if it werent for that "almost cap" mechanic that basically neutralized the advantage of owning 2 points at the start

standin was terrible please dont bring that up ever again.

you think warmfront is a good map stfu

fucking standin

standin had fun geometry and it was probably the fastest paced map in tf2

it just ended up being stupid to play because even after winning 2 points if the team kept 3rd one almost capped you would have to cap twice as long and they would be able to back cap the other side of the map and prolong rounds they should have lost

it would be one of the more fun maps if that mechanic could be changed

and you can suck a GOD DAMNED bag of smegma-covered uncut eurodick if you disagree

I think it'd be a really fun map in pubs.

he altered the spawn timers on the map (1 second per point capped), so sitting on a half capped point isn't as viable anymore.

You could probably get away with it for an exchange but after that i feel you are just fucking youself sitting on it just waiting to lose since they have faster spawns.

i feel that one person or a board of people should be in charge of the maps every season, due to the fact that the majority of voters clearly have downs