I prefer it over CSGO, feels more tactical but has lower skill ceiling

I've played it a little on my friends account, and it is really much fun when you play it with friends. As solo its not that intriguing. But if you have friends to play it with (like you said), I would highly recommend it.

the rounds are long and i’ve found the game rewards people who lay down in corners, so you will hate this game if you have a short patience BUT i’ve been having so much fun with it. just be prepared to buy the game and spend more money. the game itself on sale is $20, and each operator pack is $20, so if you spend $60 you can get all the new dudes (but you’ll still need to grind to buy attachments and the non dlc characters). I planned on just grinding for the in game currency for the characters i wanted but you get like 350 renown for a ranked win and each dlc character is 25,000 lmao. so ya, the game is super fun and satisfying (there’s a lot to learn too so it’s gonna keep me entertained for a while), but be prepared to buy the game and some character bundles.

I solo que ranked when no ones around and i’ve found it’s still pretty fun/intense

edit: add me if u wanna play ill play NA or EU

Played about 60 hours, it puts way more emphasis on map knowledge and tactics than things like cs which personally I find way more interesting. Aim is still pretty important so it's not boring and each game is pretty different since all the operators kinda put their own unique spin on each round. Plus it has cute girls.

Bought it a while back to play with two friends. It got boring very quickly, there's a lot of sitting still staring at the same spot(s). Felt like corner camper the game.

I really like it its pretty fun and theres so much you can do with gadgets and breaking walls
one annoying thing is visibility and the fact that you might get killed because someone is watching you through a 2cm wide hole or something
if you plan on buying, avoid the starter edition as it makes unlocking the agents 4 times more expensive

I fucking love siege it's the first game that has been able to make me want to play it more than tf2. I'd 100 percent disagree that it has a lower skill ceiling that cs though I would agree that it's a different kind of ceiling than cs. Recoil control and aim are still incredibly important though the recoil is rng so it doesn't quite require what cs does but the map knowledge that is necessary to be good in siege is absolutely fucking incredible. Most pros will tell you that they are still learning new things about the maps to this day.

Don't buy the starter edition it's pretty much universally hated. 5 stacking vs solo q'ing are two entirely different experiences imo. Solo q sort of sucks but 5 stacking is the most fun I've had playing video games in years.

Some quick tips if I've managed to convince anyone to buy it
1. The silencer blows. The only reason to ever have one is if you are playing echo because his gun by default has one you can't get rid of.
2. The muzzle break looks op when you look at the recoil breakdowns but those things are not always totally accurate and the muzzle break is only good on single shot weapons like the pistols.
3. DON'T REINFORCE KIDS BEDROOM ON HOUSE.
4. Whenever you have to peek something do it while moving quickly and using the lean function. Slow peeking is the best way to lose a gunfight in this game.
5. Always use a grip, usually the vertical grip. Always use a sight(except on some shotguns imo) Usually acog if available. Red dot sucks, holo and reflex are good if your gun doesn't allow for acog.
6. When you first open the game there are some tutorial videos that probably aren't the useful for most but you can hit play then cancel out of them for a free 200 renown a piece.
7. Max fov isn't always the right answer in siege. Having a lower fov will make it so you are more zoomed in when you aim down sights which will make it easier to win gunfights/see people.
8. Find the graphics settings that work for you. Lowest possible settings might result in more frames but certain settings will make it easier to see enemies when you turn them up a bit. I don't remember exactly what to recommend so you will have to google search for this one.

There's about a trillion more things to list but I won't in the interest of time. Add me if you want to play we usually have a 3-4 stack going when we play and would love to have some people to finish up the stack. http://steamcommunity.com/id/bandjoe/

yes

i wanna give my own thoughts to some of your tips

1. silencers are not necessarily bad, the good thing about them that a lot of people seem to overlook (specially newer players) is that when you shoot at somebody with a silenced gun they don't get the white damage warning thing that gives away your position, which is what you want to avoid as a roamer. honestly it just comes down to preference

5. sights are just preference as well, although arguably the reflex sight blocks the least of your vision compared to red dot and holo (i love the red dot on pulse's gun btw that shit is so good to tap with)

8. tbf you can get away with having everything on low except for LOD quality since it allows you to see reinforced walls from the other side easier (as in, the X's of the reinforced walls dont fade away when you are far away from them so it's just easier to tell)

but generally what you said is right, also i'd like to add that aspect ratio is also good to change to what you feel comfortable with, so you should just try them out see which one you like since they change how your sights look
for example 4:3 makes it easier to aim with sights that arent the acog since its more zoomed in but it makes acog be a little harder to aim cus of the zoom

tldr: buy siege dude its epic

thx dudes i'll get the game

why is the red dot bad in particular

It's not bad, it's just preference. The same reason why people say particular crosshairs or resolutions in csgo or tf2 are bad/good. It has no effect whatsoever. I can play with a red dot better than an acog or other types of scopes, but that doesn't mean its "better" than the others.

arguably the red dot blocks more of your vision than reflex and holo but it all just comes down to preference, as is with all attachments