What do you HATE about TF2?

#61

Drackk

25 Frags – +

the scout class

#62

warriordragon12

1 Frags – +

i hate how i get 90-110 ping on chicago servers

#63

s1ke

3 Frags – +

stalemates

#64

kmoo0105

-3 Frags – +

That b4nny has the be the face on the competitive scene.

#65

CondoM

40 Frags – +

the lack of effort from valve and

NurseyI had way more fun with Medic before the scout buff came out. For situations where the medic didn't track ubers right (like they're 20% off) and the opposing team can pop uber right into them, it becomes void as the medic can more than make up for bad positioning. As a consequence, games in top invite can become super stalematey as teams can't reliably push off small ads. Medics don't die nearly as much as they should.
Also fuck the Iron Bomber.

this

the lack of effort from valve and
[quote=Nursey]I had way more fun with Medic before the scout buff came out. For situations where the medic didn't track ubers right (like they're 20% off) and the opposing team can pop uber right into them, it becomes void as the medic can more than make up for bad positioning. As a consequence, games in top invite can become super stalematey as teams can't reliably push off small ads. Medics don't die nearly as much as they should.
Also fuck the Iron Bomber.[/quote]
this

#66

Eric

7 Frags – +

SpaceCadetCasual play -- find & join server -- final cap ends match before I can pick a class -- search again -- repeat processfuegoI hate the casual system and how you cant play against friends unless half their team leaves

for real, the casual mode is awful.

[quote=SpaceCadet]Casual play -- find & join server -- final cap ends match before I can pick a class -- search again -- repeat process[/quote]
[quote=fuego]I hate the casual system and how you cant play against friends unless half their team leaves[/quote]
for real, the casual mode is awful.

#67

n3

18 Frags – +

.

#68

Dagger

cp_granary_pro

9 Frags – +

so few people lft :(

#69

KEVCHEV

-10 Frags – +

mayeb it has somethign to do with ur format blows

#70

fuego

8 Frags – +

I hate the ratio of comp players to pubbers with no interest in competitive, and how this fractures the community, invalidates many of the issues competitive players face and stunts the growth of the scene.

#71

fluo

5 Frags – +

beam scouts for sure

#72

Tesla

31 Frags – +

scouts constantly switching to sniper as an answer to playing poorly

#73

Hopps

5 Frags – +

Vs 5 ping projectiles @ 100ping

#74

KEVCHEV

-8 Frags – +

are we all going to overlook the fact this mans literally just blamed pubbers for the probs of ur own format omegalul

#75

torrit2

27 Frags – +

catface

#76

Tery_

7 Frags – +

Outside of TF2, I hate that we never keep teams alive for many seasons (excluding some of Invite). It's not like TF2 is ever gonna become a serious esport even if we could sustain teams but it only hurts us.

Inside TF2, I hate when you expect to trade ubers but the enemy misses all their shots so it would've been better to have milked / ran away.

Outside of TF2, I hate that we never keep teams alive for many seasons (excluding some of Invite). It's not like TF2 is ever gonna become a serious esport even if we could sustain teams but it only hurts us.

Inside TF2, I hate when you expect to trade ubers but the enemy misses all their shots so it would've been better to have milked / ran away.

#77

KEVCHEV

-13 Frags – +

if u truly enjoy ur format it wouldn't matter how many ppl play it
because all you need in order to play is 11 other people

#78

Failw1zard

3 Frags – +

That my skill never matched the amount of time I was throwing at it.

#79

Psi

9 Frags – +

weebs who always talk about incest or underage sex like if it was nothing either in matches or pubs

edit: weebs in general

weebs who always talk about incest or underage sex like if it was nothing either in matches or pubs

edit: weebs in general

#80

jetz

-3 Frags – +

people with mongo dm

#81

Toooast

17 Frags – +

CondoMthe lack of effort from valve andNurseyI had way more fun with Medic before the scout buff came out. For situations where the medic didn't track ubers right (like they're 20% off) and the opposing team can pop uber right into them, it becomes void as the medic can more than make up for bad positioning. As a consequence, games in top invite can become super stalematey as teams can't reliably push off small ads. Medics don't die nearly as much as they should.
Also fuck the Iron Bomber.this

This, but mostly thinking about what TF2 could have been if any proper effort was put into the competetive scene. Talking about what kind of I-series LANs, invite groups and shit like that we could have gotten to watch if there was a genuine incentive to play the game at a competitive level.

Valve made around $139M from the mann co store in 2013 alone, excluding all market purchases. Something like a 25k prize pool is literally less than a fiftieth of a procent of their revenue that year. Comparison isn't really fair, but it really makes me feel for the people who poured their hearts and soul into the game with nothing coming out of it.. At least some of the peeps are finding decent succes in OW now.

and scout

[quote=CondoM]the lack of effort from valve and
[quote=Nursey]I had way more fun with Medic before the scout buff came out. For situations where the medic didn't track ubers right (like they're 20% off) and the opposing team can pop uber right into them, it becomes void as the medic can more than make up for bad positioning. As a consequence, games in top invite can become super stalematey as teams can't reliably push off small ads. Medics don't die nearly as much as they should.
Also fuck the Iron Bomber.[/quote]
this[/quote]

This, but mostly thinking about what TF2 could have been if any proper effort was put into the competetive scene. Talking about what kind of I-series LANs, invite groups and shit like that we could have gotten to watch if there was a genuine incentive to play the game at a competitive level.

Valve made around $139M from the mann co store in 2013 alone, excluding all market purchases. Something like a 25k prize pool is literally less than a fiftieth of a procent of their revenue that year. Comparison isn't really fair, but it really makes me feel for the people who poured their hearts and soul into the game with nothing coming out of it.. At least some of the peeps are finding decent succes in OW now.

and scout

#82

jrod

2 Frags – +

dishsoapwhiteracecadet

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and racist ass vulcan

why

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[spoiler]and racist ass vulcan[/spoiler][/quote]
why

#83

catface

8 Frags – +

.

#84

scrambled

5 Frags – +

SpaceCadetCasual play -- find & join server -- final cap ends match before I can pick a class -- search again -- repeat process

You do realise that when the final cap happens and the match ends a new one starts?

You are literally being matched into a brand new game and complaining about it.

[quote=SpaceCadet]Casual play -- find & join server -- final cap ends match before I can pick a class -- search again -- repeat process[/quote]
You do realise that when the final cap happens and the match ends a new one starts?

You are literally being matched into a brand new game and complaining about it.

#85

warriordragon12

18 Frags – +

ScrambledSpaceCadetCasual play -- find & join server -- final cap ends match before I can pick a class -- search again -- repeat processYou do realise that when the final cap happens and the match ends a new one starts?

You are literally being matched into a brand new game and complaining about it.

a 20 second process which turned into 10 minutes of waiting for people to join a map you dont want to play, then a unnecessary countdown, then you check the scoreboard and theres 4 people in the server so you have to repeat the process all over again. except now when you disconnect the game drags you right back into the server

quickplay pubs were 100x better than casual

[quote=Scrambled][quote=SpaceCadet]Casual play -- find & join server -- final cap ends match before I can pick a class -- search again -- repeat process[/quote]
You do realise that when the final cap happens and the match ends a new one starts?

You are literally being matched into a brand new game and complaining about it.[/quote]

a 20 second process which turned into 10 minutes of waiting for people to join a map you dont want to play, then a unnecessary countdown, then you check the scoreboard and theres 4 people in the server so you have to repeat the process all over again. except now when you disconnect the game drags you right back into the server

quickplay pubs were 100x better than casual

#86

yoona

2 Frags – +

sniper lol, you don't even have to be that great at it to reap its insane rewards.

#87

vovsons

6 Frags – +

cp_process_final1the fuck are you even talking about, how is jumping "mostly wallpogoing" of course im not talking about 6s

you clearly have not played any maps beyond tier 4

[quote=cp_process_final1]the fuck are you even talking about, how is jumping "mostly wallpogoing" of course im not talking about 6s[/quote]
you clearly have not played any maps beyond tier 4

#88

Smin

14 Frags – +

People who don’t play the game and do nothing but suck the life out of those who do

#89

CAP_CREATURE

2 Frags – +

sniper is op as fuck
ping is awful
pubbers leaving everytime they lose
tf2 being on life support
upfrag/downfrag system. it brings more bad than good

#90

sage

11 Frags – +

i hate doing -700 HP and seeing someone survive because arrows exist
sure it takes skill to hit an epic airshot with arrows but it takes no skill to stnad still for arrows, makes fights stupidly long and its so frustrating running out of ammo jesus fuck i fucking hate valve and thei retarded med ideas. fights take like 5 times longer because people hide behind something and go "med arrow me". its so fucking dumb, it looks dumb, and its so bad for game flow