Recently @Bloodis tweeted out this
Bloodis500 retweets and I'll remove reckoner from map pool
Within a mere 24 hours he managed to collect over 500 retweets, only for @ETF2L to post this before he managed to reach this incredible milestone, in fear of the community's voice being heard.
ETF2LNope.
THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN! We do NOT want cp_reckoner_rc3 to be apart of the season 29 6v6 map pool, please either remove reckoner completely, keep cp_reckoner_rc2 or face the consequences.
Recently [url=https://twitter.com/Bloooodis]@Bloodis[/url] tweeted out [url=https://twitter.com/Bloooodis/status/948520532953223168]this[/url]
[quote=Bloodis]500 retweets and I'll remove reckoner from map pool[/quote]
Within a mere 24 hours he managed to collect over 500 retweets, only for [url=https://twitter.com/ETF2L]@ETF2L[/url] to post [url=https://twitter.com/ETF2L/status/948663770045386758]this[/url] before he managed to reach this incredible milestone, in fear of the community's voice being heard.
[quote=ETF2L]Nope.[/quote]
THE [u]COMMUNITY[/u] HAS SPOKEN! We do NOT want cp_reckoner_rc3 to be apart of the season 29 6v6 map pool, please either remove reckoner completely, keep cp_reckoner_rc2 or face the consequences.
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where the FUCK is granary
where the FUCK is granary
What do you think ETF2L is some kind of democracy?!?! WTF!
What do you think ETF2L is some kind of democracy?!?! WTF!
not with germans still in admin position thats for sure
not with germans still in admin position thats for sure
if no one enjoys playing it in 6v6, and everyone wants to remove it why not remove it?
if no one enjoys playing it in 6v6, and everyone wants to remove it why not remove it?
because this community is a mess when it comes to map opinions and cant decide what to replace it with
because this community is a mess when it comes to map opinions and cant decide what to replace it with
frenzy_if no one enjoys playing it in 6v6, and everyone wants to remove it why not remove it?
Rumors has it there may or may not be bribery involved with this.
ESEA who makes enough money do not feature this map in their map pool, coincidence? I aren't think that.
[quote=frenzy_]if no one enjoys playing it in 6v6, and everyone wants to remove it why not remove it?[/quote]
Rumors has it there may or may not be bribery involved with this.
ESEA who makes enough money do not feature this map in their map pool, coincidence? I aren't think that.
any fucker actually like reckoner for anything other than the pretty colours ???
edit: but seriously if you do like reckoner please explain why because ive not heard a single reason for why people like it other than "it looks nice"
any fucker actually like reckoner for anything other than the pretty colours ???
edit: but seriously if you do like reckoner please explain why because ive not heard a single reason for why people like it other than "it looks nice"
Well, I don't really like Reckoner, but I never felt that it was that bad of a map. Like, everyone keeps talking about it like they are in actual pain when they play it, but it is okay in my book (I'm talking about rc2, haven't played rc3 yet). Sure, the mid is a bit weird with the cap point underneath. But apart from that, the map is decent imo.
One thing I like is the last point, because it's open and that's something I enjoy in lasts (like on Process or Snakewater). Only thing really annoying is that the med can just hide in spawn, but that's pretty much it.
I've heard a lot of people saying that the map is hell in a compact package, but not a lot of actual criticism, so I'd be curious to hear why do players hate it so much.
(Disclaimer : I am an open medic. I can't commentate on aspects of the map that are related to rocket/sticky jumping).
Well, I don't really like Reckoner, but I never felt that it was that bad of a map. Like, everyone keeps talking about it like they are in actual pain when they play it, but it is okay in my book (I'm talking about rc2, haven't played rc3 yet). Sure, the mid is a bit weird with the cap point underneath. But apart from that, the map is decent imo.
One thing I like is the last point, because it's open and that's something I enjoy in lasts (like on Process or Snakewater). Only thing really annoying is that the med can just hide in spawn, but that's pretty much it.
I've heard a lot of people saying that the map is hell in a compact package, but not a lot of actual criticism, so I'd be curious to hear why do players hate it so much.
(Disclaimer : I am an open medic. I can't commentate on aspects of the map that are related to rocket/sticky jumping).
yeah let's play badlands for the billionth time instead
yeah let's play badlands for the billionth time instead
Antaresyeah let's play badlands for the billionth time instead
At least badlands is better then reckoner
[quote=Antares]yeah let's play badlands for the billionth time instead[/quote]
At least badlands is better then reckoner
more people like granary than reckoner. the solution is obvious.
and i dont even like granary.
more people like granary than reckoner. the solution is obvious.
and i dont even like granary.
Cyanicmore people like granary than reckoner. the solution is obvious.
and i dont even like granary.
It is obvious indeed: replace Reckoner with Bagel
[quote=Cyanic]more people like granary than reckoner. the solution is obvious.
and i dont even like granary.[/quote]
It is obvious indeed: replace Reckoner with Bagel
Yes... begone reckoner and granary
Yes... begone reckoner and granary
I join my European brothers in their hatred for reckoner and granary!
I join my European brothers in their hatred for reckoner and granary!
reckoner > badlands/prolands
reckoner > badlands/prolands
I love/hate Reckoner, and I love/hate Granary. But I do not hate Badlands. But somewhere please put Bagel in tyvm.
I love/hate Reckoner, and I love/hate Granary. But I do not hate Badlands. But somewhere please put Bagel in tyvm.
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WHERE IS CP_SUNSHINE???????
WHERE IS CP_SUNSHINE???????
Personally think metalworks is better than reckoner and granary
Personally think metalworks is better than reckoner and granary
Problem is we don't really have maps to replace it, I mean we have metalworks and sunshine but nobody likes those maps. and most new maps we're getting atm don't really look promising at all.
Problem is we don't really have maps to replace it, I mean we have metalworks and sunshine but nobody likes those maps. and most new maps we're getting atm don't really look promising at all.
Hey, I just want to clear things up here. Any content on my personal Twitter account does not reflect the exact opinions nor the future of ETF2L.
I also want to apologize to phi here for portraying her map in a bad way in my own tweet.
Hey, I just want to clear things up here. Any content on my personal Twitter account does not reflect the exact opinions nor the future of ETF2L.
I also want to apologize to phi here for portraying her map in a bad way in my own tweet.
FunkyProblem is we don't really have maps to replace it, I mean we have metalworks and sunshine but nobody likes those maps. and most new maps we're getting atm don't really look promising at all.
Granary
Edit: I don't actually dislike reckoner really. I just feel its pretty similar to process/sunshine so I would rather play Granary over Sunshine or Reckoner. I feel sunshine is a more complete map but I don't mind playing reckoner either. I mostly just miss Granary.
[quote=Funky]Problem is we don't really have maps to replace it, I mean we have metalworks and sunshine but nobody likes those maps. and most new maps we're getting atm don't really look promising at all.[/quote]
Granary
Edit: I don't actually dislike reckoner really. I just feel its pretty similar to process/sunshine so I would rather play Granary over Sunshine or Reckoner. I feel sunshine is a more complete map but I don't mind playing reckoner either. I mostly just miss Granary.
CoYoTeedit: but seriously if you do like reckoner please explain why because ive not heard a single reason for why people like it other than "it looks nice"
You can't just give one reason to like a map. There are several aspects of the map which makes a map a good map or a bad map (in other words do you like to play (the flow of) on the map). In my eyes you can't just say I like the map because I like the midfight, what about the other points of the map?
- Mid point: I prefer this mid point/fight over maps like snakewater. On snakewater you have different ways to approach mid, but you can't really take one side of the map. On gullywash for example you can take your side of the map but you can also take their side. Reckoner mid you have the option between three different areas to take. I have to say that I don't like the double crates on top of each other, but I do like it that the point is on top of the bridge now.
- Second point: For the most part this area is fine imo. You can hold close to cargo and you can hold passive around little door/rollout/lobby. As the attacking team you have many options to force an uber or do a push (even after the newest addition of the dropdown in cargo). The biggest thing I dislike is the forklift.
- Last point/lobby: It's open, many different places to hold, enough options to go for a force. It's not anything special but imo it isn't bad at all.
I'm not saying this map is amazing, but it's definitely not worse than some of the current maps.
[quote=CoYoTe]
edit: but seriously if you do like reckoner please explain why because ive not heard a single reason for why people like it other than "it looks nice"[/quote]
You can't just give one reason to like a map. There are several aspects of the map which makes a map a good map or a bad map (in other words do you like to play (the flow of) on the map). In my eyes you can't just say I like the map because I like the midfight, what about the other points of the map?
- Mid point: I prefer this mid point/fight over maps like snakewater. On snakewater you have different ways to approach mid, but you can't really take one side of the map. On gullywash for example you can take your side of the map but you can also take their side. Reckoner mid you have the option between three different areas to take. I have to say that I don't like the double crates on top of each other, but I do like it that the point is on top of the bridge now.
- Second point: For the most part this area is fine imo. You can hold close to cargo and you can hold passive around little door/rollout/lobby. As the attacking team you have many options to force an uber or do a push (even after the newest addition of the dropdown in cargo). The biggest thing I dislike is the forklift.
- Last point/lobby: It's open, many different places to hold, enough options to go for a force. It's not anything special but imo it isn't bad at all.
I'm not saying this map is amazing, but it's definitely not worse than some of the current maps.
Latest version played on Etf2l of reckoner is one of the best map of this mappool imo , one of the only demo friendly map, with a lot of wide chokes and the last is really not that hard to repush. Big crates version is really bad though (except the dropdown maybe)
Latest version played on Etf2l of reckoner is one of the best map of this mappool imo , one of the only demo friendly map, with a lot of wide chokes and the last is really not that hard to repush. Big crates version is really bad though (except the dropdown maybe)