CerdurMakyIf they're not interested in picking a side then that means that there is no hardcore proof that there is more that two genders, does it not? I'm glad that research hasn't stopped just because of there being no evidence, I want the psychologists and gender scientists to finally crack the case.lacking consensus, and having debate, doesn't mean that there isn't evidence or credibility behind it, i'm sure plenty of people have arguments to make, i just don't think you've actually looked at any and thought a dictionary definition would be a solid argument
Its not just the dictionary definition, there is not a single piece of credible evidence that supports gender being a spectrum, if you find me an accepted thesis or paper published by a major publication then I will change my stance. Even then you cannot separate the established roles within society. If tomorrow scientists came out and said,"Yeah.... so gender is a spectrum, here is the proof" then I will concede my point and never touch the subject again. There is no fact as of now that there are more than two genders.
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[quote=Cerdur][quote=Maky]If they're not interested in picking a side then that means that there is no hardcore proof that there is more that two genders, does it not? I'm glad that research hasn't stopped just because of there being no evidence, I want the psychologists and gender scientists to finally crack the case.[/quote]
lacking consensus, and having debate, doesn't mean that there isn't evidence or credibility behind it, i'm sure plenty of people have arguments to make, i just don't think you've actually looked at any and thought a dictionary definition would be a solid argument
Its not just the dictionary definition, there is not a single piece of credible evidence that supports gender being a spectrum, if you find me an accepted thesis or paper published by a major publication then I will change my stance. Even then you cannot separate the established roles within society. If tomorrow scientists came out and said,"Yeah.... so gender is a spectrum, here is the proof" then I will concede my point and never touch the subject again. There is no fact as of now that there are more than two genders.
lacking consensus, and having debate, doesn't mean that there isn't evidence or credibility behind it, i'm sure plenty of people have arguments to make, i just don't think you've actually looked at any and thought a dictionary definition would be a solid argument
Its not just the dictionary definition, there is not a single piece of credible evidence that supports gender being a spectrum, if you find me an accepted thesis or paper published by a major publication then I will change my stance. Even then you cannot separate the established roles within society. If tomorrow scientists came out and said,"Yeah.... so gender is a spectrum, here is the proof" then I will concede my point and never touch the subject again. There is no fact as of now that there are more than two genders.
i wasn't really planning to do research for you, you seem interested in the subject though, see if you can use your google skills to find something other than a definition
i wasn't really planning to do research for you, you seem interested in the subject though, see if you can use your google skills to find something other than a definition
Lesbian_JakeMakystuff
All these dictionaries are simply a descriptive tool on how language is being used. They don't really hold any authority (apart from maybe a game of scrabble but that's literally just for spelling/what is and isn't a word) and they definitely don't attempt to. They just set out to give definitions of how people are using the words not to tell you how to use them.
Dictionaries are a lexical source of knowledge. They tell you about a word's meanings, pronunciations, etymologies, inflected forms, derived forms. I am well aware that a words meaning can change over time, but until that day you cannot sit there and tell me that it is not a credible source.
[quote=Lesbian_Jake][quote=Maky]stuff[/quote]
All these dictionaries are simply a descriptive tool on how language is being used. They don't really hold any authority (apart from maybe a game of scrabble but that's literally just for spelling/what is and isn't a word) and they definitely don't attempt to. They just set out to give definitions of how people are using the words not to tell you how to use them.[/quote]
Dictionaries are a lexical source of knowledge. They tell you about a word's meanings, pronunciations, etymologies, inflected forms, derived forms. I am well aware that a words meaning can change over time, but until that day you cannot sit there and tell me that it is not a credible source.
All these dictionaries are simply a descriptive tool on how language is being used. They don't really hold any authority (apart from maybe a game of scrabble but that's literally just for spelling/what is and isn't a word) and they definitely don't attempt to. They just set out to give definitions of how people are using the words not to tell you how to use them.[/quote]
Dictionaries are a lexical source of knowledge. They tell you about a word's meanings, pronunciations, etymologies, inflected forms, derived forms. I am well aware that a words meaning can change over time, but until that day you cannot sit there and tell me that it is not a credible source.
Cerduri wasn't really planning to do research for you, you seem interested in the subject though, see if you can use your google skills to find something other than a definition
https://www.genderspectrum.org/quick-links/understanding-gender/
This is a blog with no hard facts, everything from this website has no hardcore proof.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/01/how-science-helps-us-understand-gender-identity/
Nation Geographic talks about masculine girls and feminine boys in this article, but there is literally no evidence of gender being a spectrum. The article says " what we consider “male” and “female” don’t always line up neatly, with all the XXs—complete with ovaries, vagina, estrogen, female gender identity, and feminine behavior—on one side and all the XYs—testes, penis, testosterone, male gender identity, and masculine behavior—on the other. It’s possible to be XX and mostly male in terms of anatomy, physiology, and psychology, just as it’s possible to be XY and mostly female". The article then states that there is the SRY gene that sometimes isn't there, and this means that not enough testosterone was released to make proper testes in males. This could hypothetically explain why some men are more effeminate than others, but this proves nothing about there being more than two genders. Further in the article it talks about Polynesia's third gender, and yes, there have been third genders throughout history but this is only because of cultural norms.
https://gyazo.com/d25a3f772f329b460c36fbf75994f108 this is what google gave me, and only one of these articles was from a "respectable" source.
[quote=Cerdur]i wasn't really planning to do research for you, you seem interested in the subject though, see if you can use your google skills to find something other than a definition[/quote]
https://www.genderspectrum.org/quick-links/understanding-gender/
This is a blog with no hard facts, everything from this website has no hardcore proof.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/01/how-science-helps-us-understand-gender-identity/
Nation Geographic talks about masculine girls and feminine boys in this article, but there is literally no evidence of gender being a spectrum. The article says " what we consider “male” and “female” don’t always line up neatly, with all the XXs—complete with ovaries, vagina, estrogen, female gender identity, and feminine behavior—on one side and all the XYs—testes, penis, testosterone, male gender identity, and masculine behavior—on the other. It’s possible to be XX and mostly male in terms of anatomy, physiology, and psychology, just as it’s possible to be XY and mostly female". The article then states that there is the SRY gene that sometimes isn't there, and this means that not enough testosterone was released to make proper testes in males. This could hypothetically explain why some men are more effeminate than others, but this proves nothing about there being more than two genders. Further in the article it talks about Polynesia's third gender, and yes, there have been third genders throughout history but this is only because of cultural norms.
https://gyazo.com/d25a3f772f329b460c36fbf75994f108 this is what google gave me, and only one of these articles was from a "respectable" source.
https://www.genderspectrum.org/quick-links/understanding-gender/
This is a blog with no hard facts, everything from this website has no hardcore proof.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/01/how-science-helps-us-understand-gender-identity/
Nation Geographic talks about masculine girls and feminine boys in this article, but there is literally no evidence of gender being a spectrum. The article says " what we consider “male” and “female” don’t always line up neatly, with all the XXs—complete with ovaries, vagina, estrogen, female gender identity, and feminine behavior—on one side and all the XYs—testes, penis, testosterone, male gender identity, and masculine behavior—on the other. It’s possible to be XX and mostly male in terms of anatomy, physiology, and psychology, just as it’s possible to be XY and mostly female". The article then states that there is the SRY gene that sometimes isn't there, and this means that not enough testosterone was released to make proper testes in males. This could hypothetically explain why some men are more effeminate than others, but this proves nothing about there being more than two genders. Further in the article it talks about Polynesia's third gender, and yes, there have been third genders throughout history but this is only because of cultural norms.
https://gyazo.com/d25a3f772f329b460c36fbf75994f108 this is what google gave me, and only one of these articles was from a "respectable" source.
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Nice meme bud, you tried, but ultimately there are still 2 genders.
[quote=Cerdur]add me on steam to keep me updated on your studies http://steamcommunity.com/id/showstopperk1ng[/quote]
Nice meme bud, you tried, but ultimately there are still 2 genders.
Nice meme bud, you tried, but ultimately there are still 2 genders.
what i tried telling you was that a definition isn't an argument, i hope my words reached you :D
what i tried telling you was that a definition isn't an argument, i hope my words reached you :D
on behalf of all russians i apologize for this fool even though most of them would most likely preach the same thing;
thought when you live in the us you kinda learn whats what when you arent getting earfucked by retrograde orthodox beliefs and totalitarian government that doesnt allow for anything that isnt a 'norm'
on behalf of all russians i apologize for this fool even though most of them would most likely preach the same thing;
thought when you live in the us you kinda learn whats what when you arent getting earfucked by retrograde orthodox beliefs and totalitarian government that doesnt allow for anything that isnt a 'norm'
thought when you live in the us you kinda learn whats what when you arent getting earfucked by retrograde orthodox beliefs and totalitarian government that doesnt allow for anything that isnt a 'norm'
the year is 2030, the great gender debate rages on. after winning season 56 of etf2l prem, maky finds himself prestigious enough to end up in a room of scholars, little did they know he had brought his secret weapon. pulling it from his pocket, and flipping through the pages, he dragged his finger down and tapped on the definition for gender in his trusty pocket dictionary. nobody expected this, they all gasped, he had done it, he cracked the case. everybody applauded, gave him 100 dollars, then committed suicide because their careers were over after getting humiliatingly defeated by such intellectual prowess, and once again order was restored to the world
the year is 2030, the great gender debate rages on. after winning season 56 of etf2l prem, maky finds himself prestigious enough to end up in a room of scholars, little did they know he had brought his secret weapon. pulling it from his pocket, and flipping through the pages, he dragged his finger down and tapped on the definition for gender in his trusty pocket dictionary. nobody expected this, they all gasped, he had done it, he cracked the case. everybody applauded, gave him 100 dollars, then committed suicide because their careers were over after getting humiliatingly defeated by such intellectual prowess, and once again order was restored to the world
Hi welcome to tftv, where we definitely dont hate trans people.
Hi welcome to tftv, where we definitely dont hate trans people.
Wtf who gives a shit like NiBBa just have a dick or vagina wtf HaHaHa
Wtf who gives a shit like NiBBa just have a dick or vagina wtf HaHaHa
MakymastercomsYou may be confusing sex and gender if you think there are only two genders. Gender is your traits that come from masculinity/femininity and hence it is on a spectrum. Sex is the entirely biological aspect and is what you would consider traditionally to have two states: male and female.
https://gyazo.com/12ef6444f37ae1a625beae94892d66bf
Sex and gender are synonymous, you cannot divide a category of biology into two separate categories. I am not denying the idea of other genders/sexes but as of now there are two; Male and Female. Now if you want to get technical we can talk about hermaphrodites and transvestites but at the end of the day they choose a single gender/sex and they make up a minuscule number of society. You can identify as whatever you want, you deserve to be happy, and I will respect your choice.
thats the language definition not the scientific definition you mong
[quote=Maky][quote=mastercoms]You may be confusing sex and gender if you think there are only two genders. Gender is your traits that come from masculinity/femininity and hence it is on a spectrum. Sex is the entirely biological aspect and is what you would consider traditionally to have two states: male and female.[/quote]
https://gyazo.com/12ef6444f37ae1a625beae94892d66bf
Sex and gender are synonymous, you cannot divide a category of biology into two separate categories. I am not denying the idea of other genders/sexes but as of now there are two; Male and Female. Now if you want to get technical we can talk about hermaphrodites and transvestites but at the end of the day they choose a single gender/sex and they make up a minuscule number of society. You can identify as whatever you want, you deserve to be happy, and I will respect your choice.[/quote]
thats the language definition not the scientific definition you mong
https://gyazo.com/12ef6444f37ae1a625beae94892d66bf
Sex and gender are synonymous, you cannot divide a category of biology into two separate categories. I am not denying the idea of other genders/sexes but as of now there are two; Male and Female. Now if you want to get technical we can talk about hermaphrodites and transvestites but at the end of the day they choose a single gender/sex and they make up a minuscule number of society. You can identify as whatever you want, you deserve to be happy, and I will respect your choice.[/quote]
thats the language definition not the scientific definition you mong
i'm not surprised by how prevalent the There Are Only Two (2) Genders line of thinking is nor by how many think that "there are or are not x y z 'genders'" is even a coherent or relevant kind of discussion but i feel the urge to say that i don't give a shit if someone wants to do some goofy ass shit wrt how they try to categorize and present themselves (or some non-goofy shit frankly like being a standard 'they/them' non-binary person) because all that shit is made up and the world's probably ending soon enough anyway so we should do whatever makes us feel comfortable with ourselves in the meantime. if you recognize that it doesn't matter one way then why should you reckon it matters the other way?somebody who's on some goofy online gender shit ain't doing anybody harm and is probably some queer teenager with a shitty home life trying to carve out a space and identity (generally defined, like the kind that we all have, not necessarily in the cliched "i identify as x" way) for themself in some way that will evolve as time passes, as everything does.
anyway the whole "i identify as an attack helicopter" thing was old before anyone came up with it and is unbearable not so much because it's especially harmful (remember that it's not like anybody critiquing the shit is suggesting that it's more than a tiny drop in the goddamn bucket compared to x y or z statistic about violence against trans people or whatever other talking point) but because it's not even a funny joke to begin with, lol
i'm not surprised by how prevalent the There Are Only Two (2) Genders line of thinking is nor by how many think that "there are or are not x y z 'genders'" is even a coherent or relevant kind of discussion but i feel the urge to say that i don't give a shit if someone wants to do some goofy ass shit wrt how they try to categorize and present themselves (or some non-goofy shit frankly like being a standard 'they/them' non-binary person) because all that shit is made up and the world's probably ending soon enough anyway so we should do whatever makes us feel comfortable with ourselves in the meantime. if you recognize that it doesn't matter one way then why should you reckon it matters the other way?somebody who's on some goofy online gender shit ain't doing anybody harm and is probably some queer teenager with a shitty home life trying to carve out a space and identity (generally defined, like the kind that we all have, not necessarily in the cliched "i identify as x" way) for themself in some way that will evolve as time passes, as everything does.
anyway the whole "i identify as an attack helicopter" thing was old before anyone came up with it and is unbearable not so much because it's especially harmful (remember that it's not like anybody critiquing the shit is suggesting that it's more than a tiny drop in the goddamn bucket compared to x y or z statistic about violence against trans people or whatever other talking point) but because it's not even a funny joke to begin with, lol
anyway the whole "i identify as an attack helicopter" thing was old before anyone came up with it and is unbearable not so much because it's especially harmful (remember that it's not like anybody critiquing the shit is suggesting that it's more than a tiny drop in the goddamn bucket compared to x y or z statistic about violence against trans people or whatever other talking point) but because it's not even a funny joke to begin with, lol
this is now a dog wearing clothes thread
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this is now a dog wearing clothes thread
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there are two genders:
good posts
and the dumpster
this is the latter
there are two genders:
good posts
and the dumpster
this is the latter
good posts
and the dumpster
this is the latter
let ppl be who they want if they aren't hurting anyone :)
let ppl be who they want if they aren't hurting anyone :)
knsumethis is now a dog wearing clothes thread
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[quote=knsume][b]this is now a dog wearing clothes thread[/b][/quote]
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