Wait...If you have true information why not pass it to the ISP?

because it wasn't me who was getting ddosed, it was vortex

talk to him, im p sure he threatened to call bullets mom last time

Nice edits PowerBottom. HEH.

Right before we got FFW by toon gang one of our scouts kept losing his internet connection

Someone call ikpure?

WE NEED TEH INTERNET POLICE DOWN HERE!

yeah I mean basically what it comes down to is bape was being fishy as fuck. we asked him straightforward questions on his stream, and he denied things like knowing bullet, knowing how to DDoS, and more. he is either a compulsive liar or he has something to hide. plus after unpausing because he "needed to go" an hour later he's back on streaming because he wanted to "clear his name". nobody wants to clear their name unless they do something wrong. he gave us too many tips that he's full of shit, and I have too many people saying that bape DDoSed their scrims or matches or whatever.

apparently he afked in the match a couple times so I'm gonna make a recording and see if it corresponds to blacky's disconnects.

point is, nobody likes a cheater. you shouldn't be on a team with a cheater. bape has made is clear that he intends to leave Toon Gang when the season is over. so his teammates have an incentive to "not know what's going on" because bape is getting them a ticket to IM, and they've technically already qualified so now it doesn't matter cause Blacky's team had to take the fall and Toon Gang won't have to play with Bape anymore.

don't associate yourself with cheaters. dont pug with cheaters. don't scrim with cheaters.

@Toon Gang: you claim that we need to provide evidence of Bape cheating, but you know that it's difficult, if not impossible to obtain. are you really just going to sit there and keep on playing dumb?

Please don't lump us all as accomplices in this. It's not OK to just lump the blame on the teammates and potentially mark them as shitlords in the community just for being on a team with someone.

sorry you're right that's unfair of me. but hey, if you knew you were playing with a cheater, would you continue playing with him for the rest of the season?

from the stream, courtesy of raisinbran24:

Raisinbran24: twss would you use a sub if you found out bape ddoses
Twssler: If we had a sub
» our backups are MIA
Raisinbran24: so you'd willingly play with a cheater?
Twssler: How do you know hes a cheater?
» do you have Proof?
» or are you just ranting
Raisinbran24: its a hypothetical question
» would you willingly play with a cheater
» if you knew your teammate was a cheater
Twssler: Nope
» but none of my teamates are cheaters
Raisinbran24: that you know of
» right now
» so when we find out that bape cheats by tomorrow
» you're gonna cut him
Twssler: Hey if you can catch him in the act by all means let me know
Raisinbran24: and use a sub
» well nobody can catch him in the act
» if you guys already ddosed blackymonster to get to IM
» but we can go back and find the proof
Twssler: How do you know he ddosed blacky?
Raisinbran24: gl the rest of the season twss
Twssler: TY

Whoa, shots fired.

Like I said, I don't know one way or the other. bape has never gotten into mumble and been like "hey, I'm gonna make this 5v6 so we win", so it's not like we're just turning the other cheek.

On top of this, it's exactly like you said - bape has no intention of staying with the team (and neither do I), so there's literally zero reason for him to cheat them into Intermediate, especially considering the reasons he's leaving.

bape straight up told me that he hasn't done it and seemed genuinely upset that people are convinced he's done something wrong, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. At the same time, I've already agreed that the situation is pretty damn shady, and before joining the team (and getting to know him better) I was under the impression that bape was a pug-ruining dillhole, so I'm honestly not 100% sure.

Edit: If he were proven to be a cheater, I'd jump ship in a heartbeat, and be the first to ask for the match to be overturned. But like I said, if he is responsible, he's hidden it pretty well from the rest of us.

Unless one of you admit to have cheated without their teammates knowing so, then any of you could've done it, the facts are that you won many games because of "internet problems" on the other teams and none of you have rightfully earned their way into IM

again, DDoS is almost impossible to prove. you're asking us to do something impossible. blackymonster was not prepared with the proper software to track the ip, and we can't go back in time to find out if he was getting DDoSed...

secondly, DDoS is a federal offense. why the hell would bape admit it to you? you're just some kid on the internet that he plays video games with. he's not going to jail just because you asked him.

This.

As a person who's blindly -fragged for being on the same team as dflame, that feeling is familiar to me. Let's try and address the suspects directly and not the entire team.

Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like being in IM. They can't be banned, bullied, or reasoned with. Some men just want to watch Open burn.

This is really suspect. obviously 0 shits given from this TWSS dude. This kid knows who did it for sure, I'd put money on it.

Since you don't want to be associated with this scandal (rightfully so) you may be able to help. Mind if I ask a question?

Have either of you noticed the suspicious behavior that many people are claiming have happened? That (allegedly) when you guys were losing, someone on the opposing team seemed to suddenly get "internet issues" and Bape wouldn't give them the time to figure it out?

I smell DOS wars on the horizon.

inb4 someone decides to be an hero and DOS the DOS'ers.

Yeah, it's definitely happened before. As it pertains to the pause rule bape is always a stickler about it. I don't know whether to believe bape or not, but I don't want to be labeled as a shitlord for a thought up conspiracy that I have no part in.

Says the furry :3

leave ringo aloooone ;_;

Submit a ticket, let kalkin or killing think about something, we all know this was a whole douchefaggotry issue but unless those two actually care to give the community some input, nothing really matters which sucks because imo they def don't deserve that IM spot.

It doesn't matter if it was bape or bullet, your roster doesn't deserve to be moved to IM.

I also wonder why good people like synchro would play with shitlords like TWSS, PowerMangoes, and Bape, especially since it was synchro who lost his admin on natf2 for white knighting.

bape/bullet/whoever the last faggot is, I'm coming for you.

is bape a mexican?

cause it looks like he was playing

...tfdos!

I've never laughed so hard at a stupid joke in my life.

rematch, live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khbel2p7ou0

DDoS is super easy to prove. You type netstat -ano in command prompt and you can tell in 2 seconds when you're being flooded by a foreign ip. What's harder to prove is to backtrace which individual is doing it - which almost doesn't even matter. You confirmed you were DDoS'ed and it was during an ESEA match, you've never been DDoS'ed before. It's not a coincidence.

Assuming the people aren't pinging you from their own location like idiots, you can still probably all see if it's the same person DDoS'ing. Just make netstat logs and share them with the community (don't show all connections, just the one in question) or on a one-on-one basis.

Like you said though, we can't go back in time to make logs of the event. Even still, DDoS is pretty easy to spot on the receiving end, especially if you normally don't have internet issues. It's pretty safe to assume it's not a coincidence.

sorry yes vortex you're right it's not hard to prove that you're getting DDoSed but that's not what Toon Gang is asking. toon gang is saying prove it's one of us and we will do something about it.

also proving that you were DDoSed in an ESEA match won't overturn it or get it replayed because you can't prove that it was anyone on the other team.

however, that being said, bape is lying through his teeth and TWSS is being shady as fuck right now. we just need to keep a close eye on their matches/scrims.

the only reason that anyone should have any doubt right now is because bunny is on blacky's team, and even then this isn't the first case of bape. DDoS accusations don't come out of nowhere -- there's a reason people think it's bape.

http://i.imgur.com/bEui4jP.jpg

<- BAPE LOL

when did this become "make fun of bape" thread? i thought we were trying to investigate the ddos attacks.