Hey all, please take note.

This ain't it chief.

Did someone forget to take out the trash?

hmm thanks hawaii

racist admion s...

unban frøz

#freethehomie

Unban Froz fuck the rest its dumb u would ban someone from the season for something like that and ruin their team that had such a pivotal role in that div. Low div is fucked Rn because u got rid of Nagles team and Froz over some bullshit

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well... low is not very challenging rn without those ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

why did froz get bananad? the ban reason looks really vague, unless its been updated or im just hella stupid

yes guys unban froz
and stop u noob haters giving my song down pointed thumb >:(

new song in the making guys be patient!!!!

stupid drama etfl admins taking stuff too seriously sometimes
tf2 has already low popularity imagine kicking league players out for months
i don't care how long i got banned but i cucked my team in mid-season that hurts

can you stop saying the n word thank you

turkish

He applied for AC staff and then he leaked confidential information to a currently banned cheater (Ry Ry), who also wrote one of the AC demo test reviews for froz to "help with his grammar", while froz passed it off as his own.
I wish I was joking.

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Golly, this really is a tough call. I just don't know who to believe. Seems like a real "he said they said" situation. Honestly no real proof either way. Going to have to reserve judgement on this one. I mean the proof from a reputable member of the community says one thing, while the song says another. I just don't know who to believe here. Definitely seems like a case of "blurred lines" here. Real close one. Can't decide.

i don't expect being unbanned since they're pretty acting strictly about it however it was a shame pulling off a player in mid season tbh

I don't think giving a cheater information about some AC cases warrants a ban in the league, especially because froz has done it without knowing about it, from what he told me, and I also don't like how it was mostly a thing between Amaterasu and Bloodis, some admins haven not really known much about the ban and everything was just very blurry and unclear, which imo shouldn't be the case, as admins could just abuse their power, with everything being unclear. Also whatever ry could have done with that information is basically nothing, as froz told me, that it was one or two stv demos with instructions on how to analyse them. (This ban has fucked our team over and I want to voice my opinion because of that now)

What I want to say is, that i want froz to be unbanned until the end of this season and then we can talk about giving him a forum ban or maybe something else after this season

#freethehomie

Lol whats that got to do with the game tho? Ur fault for allowing such shitty requirements to become AC
Froz is a relatively unknown LOW PLAYER why was he even considered to join the AC team? (no offence)

not worth ruining their team where i think he was a pretty key figure and furthermore nagles which really and truly never should have been able to play low in the first place anyway u donuts but since they are its stupid to just lose ur rival team like that. id be pissed if oink 5 got the same shit done to them.

the #3 team in that div now has a free win which is boring for them ie bad for the game because itll reduce the motivation for them as a team and now they probably feel like dickheads because they kno they dont deserve it

you would think the advantage of ETF2L would be that it would understand things like this over NA what was ultimately reperesented by not even TF2 players but really the admin team does more to harm the league than help ie banning people for a YEAR for not uploading demos

rly my perception of the admins are that they just abuse their power and sandbag (how many admins sandbaggijg this season? lol) and then pretend theyre doing the community justice like idk when i can be like yeah that was a good move that helped the community other than banning more hackers than in NA

youre so funny hahahsa\hahaa

If u dont upload demos u deserve the smack down tbh. It's a simple habit. U get plenty of warnings and light bans anyway. if u cba to download prec or just lack mental capacity to remember to record demos in offis u shouldnt be using a computer lmaoo.

Also I can confidently say sandbagging isnt an issue in ETF2l (except for perhaps open/low, having never played those divs). I spent like 3 seasons in mid and if u cant beat some bad high players, off-classers, no-scrim gamers, washed up gamers or any combination of the 4 then u kinda dont deserve to get out of mid.

Then when it comes to shit like div2 where lego a few seasons ago were allowed into d2 over div1 cause of off classing THEN mainclassed in playoffs thats different, but if u cant beat like i dunno me on scout or some shit in mid u shouldnt bitch about evil sandbaggers.

Div1 obviously theres gonna be teams of people coming up through d2 and teams full of established div1/prem quals/low prem, and there's gonna be a skill disparity, but at this point you should let just about anything slide in terms of roster restrictions, etc.

The only acceptable issue to have with the situation of sandbagging is when expectations dont line-up properly, like an offclassing team all mainclassing for playoffs, or a no-scrim team finding more time to do so cause of changing situations etc. That can be frustrating but even still rules like roster skill point system thingy, roster highjacking and roster lock for playoffs help mitigate a lot of it. Also perhaps admin perception can be off at times (i think them greenlighting thaigrr to play demo in mid in s29 was hella wonky in hindsight, even tho my team never even played with him once before he got a ban for not uploading demos lmaooo).

Anyway basically i raspect admins they do a goob yob and i am not envious at all of how NA lacks these ebic people/systems

nagles team should never have been able to play low considering it has multiple div 2 players and mid players i guarantee they would place higher in mid than the low mid teams and probably only scrim mid teams anyway even nagle told me he doesnt rly get iy

top low and mid are the literal same thing and have been for a while. never saw an oink 5 scrim where it wasnt vs a mid team AND they were consistently winning

i dont have a problem with sandbagging at all i think its good to have a sandbagging team because first of all it prepares you for the next div and personally id like to always scrim vs the best possible team i can, in an ideal world id play a prem team everyday if it was possible but it wouldnt be fair for them

my point was concerning the admins doing it because the sandbag rules rly just seem to work in their favour to be cringe sandbagging circlejerk weaboos

if there are gonna be real sandbag rules, prem players shouldnt be able to play mid on any class and high players shouldnt be able to play low. thats fair, because sure we could beat a team with u Mak on an offclass but u have more insight and understanding than us

anyways thats not as big a problem than the Froz situation which made no sense

u realize low is like the equivalent of UGC silver? how would u feel Mak as a prem player if u got banned because a UGC silver player looked at ur demos

imagine if this was the NiCo Baud era, how pissed they would be at that and rightly so i mean its a fucking joke u are trialing this guy i would rather have RocketKING as AC

lol

free brax

Wait. Since when does analysing stv demos to spot cheating make sense?

free him up