RGL Main S1 Happenings/Discussion

#151

Air_

27 Frags – +

negasoraHow did a league with rules worse than UGC even happen, it's literally like a season of tf2center with all the "admin discretion"

by tf2 players, for tf2 players

too bad nobody mentioned tf2 players are retarded

https://i.imgur.com/zhQbG5V.png

[quote=negasora]How did a league with rules worse than UGC even happen, it's literally like a season of tf2center with all the "admin discretion"[/quote]

by tf2 players, for tf2 players

too bad nobody mentioned tf2 players are retarded

[img]https://i.imgur.com/zhQbG5V.png[/img]

#152

zanda

1 Frags – +

gg smh

#153

Spades

11 Frags – +

I'm sure all involved with any RGL bullshit this season will happily sign up and prepare for RGL 6s S2...right??

#154

Tino_

18 Frags – +

SpadesI'm sure all involved with any RGL bullshit this season will happily sign up and prepare for RGL 6s S2...right??

Would almost put money on it because

Air_tf2 players are retarded

[quote=Spades]I'm sure all involved with any RGL bullshit this season will happily sign up and prepare for RGL 6s S2...right??[/quote]

Would almost put money on it because

[quote=Air_]tf2 players are retarded

[/quote]

#155

nabla

-13 Frags – +

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#156

ElectraHeart

9 Frags – +

el chado strikes again. ggs carrier penguins.

#157

Scream

8 Frags – +

Daffodil-snip

None of us thought that it was a situation of "admin abuse", we just thought it was sporadic and contradictory to the conversations we had with you and Sigafoo in the days leading up to this. We had even asked what class restrictions you wanted in place before we even went through with the idea. Also, while our team may have looked better on paper, we didn't have 6 weeks of playing together to form any sort of coordination.

[quote=Daffodil-]snip[/quote]
None of us thought that it was a situation of "admin abuse", we just thought it was sporadic and contradictory to the conversations we had with you and Sigafoo in the days leading up to this. We had even asked what class restrictions you wanted in place before we even went through with the idea. Also, while our team may have looked better on paper, we didn't have 6 weeks of playing together to form any sort of coordination.

#158

CAP_CREATURE

14 Frags – +

Scream Also, while our team may have looked better on paper, we didn't have 6 weeks of playing together to form any sort of coordination.

Look I love you guys and I think you are right, but that roster had a core of you xbs and frickmynick who have all played together multiple seasons and you all play with each other frequently in general. I would be willing to bet your team coordination is better than most of the main teams

[quote=Scream] Also, while our team may have looked better on paper, we didn't have 6 weeks of playing together to form any sort of coordination.[/quote]

Look I love you guys and I think you are right, but that roster had a core of you xbs and frickmynick who have all played together multiple seasons and you all play with each other frequently in general. I would be willing to bet your team coordination is better than most of the main teams

#159

_brian

23 Frags – +

https://i.imgur.com/hYJlYqm.png

[img]https://i.imgur.com/hYJlYqm.png[/img]

#160

zanda

3 Frags – +

gg john deere gaming

#161

Tery_

5 Frags – +

So why is more than half of each division going to playoffs, exactly?

[url=http://sixes.rgl.gg/Public/Articles/Default.aspx?a=1294]So why is more than half of each division going to playoffs, exactly?[/url]

#162

Spades

2 Frags – +

12 team SE > 8 team DE?? rly??
????????????

#163

BuildBruh

6 Frags – +

Sending 12 teams to playoffs out of 20 active, 25 including dead teams... Nice.

IM is sending 12 out of 18 active rosters, 24 including dead teams.

In ADV theres only 1 team not making the cut because its 6 out of 10, with only 7 of those actually being active.

Couldn't have at least adjusted for rosters dying? I don't blame them for doing it how they did with open(prime) or newcomer because this is better for the players looking to get more experience and play for free.

Sending 12 teams to playoffs out of 20 active, 25 including dead teams... Nice.

IM is sending 12 out of 18 active rosters, 24 including dead teams.

In ADV theres only 1 team not making the cut because its 6 out of 10, with only 7 of those actually being active.

Couldn't have at least adjusted for rosters dying? I don't blame them for doing it how they did with open(prime) or newcomer because this is better for the players looking to get more experience and play for free.

#164

zanda

2 Frags – +

lmaoooo

#165

BuildBruh

23 Frags – +

http://sixes.rgl.gg/Public/Articles/Default.aspx?a=1294 Specifically the bit about team suspensions and player suspensions.

https://i.imgur.com/45cfw8O.png

I appreciate the attempt at transparency, but you're not going to give a reason as to why theres still duplicate penalties on randy and the rangerettes and detailing it to seem this was not from a single incident? If there was no rules about roster hijacking, was there no attempt at compromising and falling back to ESEA or UGC standards for this and having x amount of the previous roster to still play?

Due to RGL's inaction and lack of communication the entirety of randy and the rangerettes was effectively blacklisted for this season due to dishsoap/marquis' timing with the roster hijacking reason https://i.imgur.com/UvY4MEV.png.

What about rarted, jrod, nursey, josh in regards to taking out of game actions and criminal offenses seriously? The banning of Blank or syo for cheating and alting respectively? Josh again for his "excess toxicity in scrims"? Why even single out Toucan and Frosters both of which had their bans time out a week ago? How about the noise made about RGL head admins being corrupt or at the least being influenced by self interest?

Bowl's laundry list of bans this year alone still didn't manage to get him on the list despite being an appropriate example of taking this league seriously. The man got banned for 3 matches while having done

- Assisted in a banned player evading a match on an alt
- Aiding others in disruption of casted matches
- Aiding others in raiding both RGL platforms
- Making a racial / harassing post on RGL forums
- Second offense in the last 3 months

And thats it?

Neither Div admin I worked with to get bryuan on our roster knew about what had happened; be it the ban change, or removal from the roster. Going up the chain about this resulted in more confusion for all parties involved, and still took days afterward to completely resolve while everything needed to be double checked and confirmed.

If only the head admins of that league on top of those they report to are able to ban and alter rosters there should be a log somewhere available for the div admins to at the least crosscheck, with another for public usage.

edit: clarified some transparency related points of this post, added links to names. a=a ayn rand wins this one

http://sixes.rgl.gg/Public/Articles/Default.aspx?a=1294 Specifically the bit about team suspensions and player suspensions.

https://i.imgur.com/45cfw8O.png

I appreciate the attempt at transparency, but you're not going to give a reason as to why theres still duplicate penalties on [url=http://sixes.rgl.gg/Public/Team.aspx?t=5336]randy and the rangerettes[/url] and detailing it to seem this was not from a single incident? If there was no rules about roster hijacking, was there no attempt at compromising and falling back to ESEA or UGC standards for this and having x amount of the previous roster to still play?

Due to RGL's inaction and lack of communication the entirety of randy and the rangerettes was effectively blacklisted for this season due to dishsoap/marquis' timing with the roster hijacking reason https://i.imgur.com/UvY4MEV.png.

What about [url=http://cup.rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198043355180]rarted[/url], [url=http://sixes.rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198117722422]jrod[/url], [url=http://hl.rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198061560390]nursey[/url], [url=http://sixes.rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198324135359]josh [/url]in regards to taking out of game actions and criminal offenses seriously? The banning of [url=http://sixes.rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198105529673]Blank[/url] or [url=http://sixes.rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198842133883]syo [/url]for cheating and alting respectively? Josh again for his "excess toxicity in scrims"? Why even single out [url=http://sixes.rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198261805780]Toucan [/url]and [url=http://sixes.rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198127769260]Frosters [/url]both of which had their bans time out a week ago? How about the noise made about RGL head admins being corrupt or at the least being influenced by self interest?

[url=http://na.rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198101325132]Bowl[/url]'s laundry list of bans this year alone still didn't manage to get him on the list despite being an appropriate example of taking this league seriously. The man got banned for 3 matches while having done
[quote]- Assisted in a banned player evading a match on an alt
- Aiding others in disruption of casted matches
- Aiding others in raiding both RGL platforms
- Making a racial / harassing post on RGL forums
- Second offense in the last 3 months [/quote]

And thats it?

Neither Div admin I worked with to get [url=http://sixes.rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198026849585]bryuan [/url]on our roster knew about what had happened; be it the ban change, or removal from the roster. Going up the chain about this resulted in more confusion for all parties involved, and still took days afterward to completely resolve while everything needed to be double checked and confirmed.

If only the head admins of that league on top of those they report to are able to ban and alter rosters there should be a log somewhere available for the div admins to at the least crosscheck, with another for public usage.

edit: clarified some transparency related points of this post, added links to names. a=a ayn rand wins this one

#166

dishsoap

-6 Frags – +

yo wait buildbruh the roster hijacking thing wasnt my fault LOL that was a meme me and rowpieces did. that team just died on its own after i joined, it made a hilarious coincidence.

#167

enthrow

7 Frags – +

bobby DESTROYS gay sigafoo with FACTS and LOGIC

#168

siyo

Fireside Casts

8 Frags – +

https://i.imgur.com/esiylN9.png

hong kong protests rgl version

https://i.imgur.com/esiylN9.png

hong kong protests rgl version

#169

BuildBruh

5 Frags – +

who is that?

#170

siyo

Fireside Casts

2 Frags – +

A crocs wearer

#171

Connie-

RGB LAN

2 Frags – +

BuildBruhwho is that?

entropy :D

[quote=BuildBruh]who is that?[/quote]
entropy :D

#172

Beelthazus

8 Frags – +

Daffodil-An entirely different group of 6+ players took over the sojourner roster in main after it died. The problems with a different team taking over an already existing roster mid-season when they were not the team that produced its match results should be more than obvious. On top of that, the team was likely much better than the rest of the teams in main as well and would have been placed in advanced if they had registered in the preseason.

It was an oversight to not to write down formal roster hijacking rules, but trying to spin this as an abuse of "admin discretion" is extremely misleading. It would have been a huge mistake to do nothing or otherwise pretend not to notice.

tri_ would have done nothing, be more like tri_

[quote=Daffodil-]An entirely different group of 6+ players took over the sojourner roster in main after it died. The problems with a different team taking over an already existing roster mid-season when they were not the team that produced its match results should be more than obvious. On top of that, the team was likely much better than the rest of the teams in main as well and would have been placed in advanced if they had registered in the preseason.

It was an oversight to not to write down formal roster hijacking rules, but trying to spin this as an abuse of "admin discretion" is [i]extremely[/i] misleading. It would have been a huge mistake to do nothing or otherwise pretend not to notice.[/quote]
tri_ would have done nothing, be more like tri_

#173

Brimstone

9 Frags – +

also because esea had established roster hijack rules: multiple teams have been hilariously and accidentally killed in the past for forgetting to follow them

#174

BuildBruh

7 Frags – +

dishsoapyo wait buildbruh the roster hijacking thing wasnt my fault LOL that was a meme me and rowpieces did. that team just died on its own after i joined, it made a hilarious coincidence.

I'm not blaming you for the hijack or anything, funny meme in retrospect but it killed anyone who didnt know about its prospects for joining another team. Can't even really say that was your fault either; the admins never denied or clarified why you and the roster were instantly dissolved other than

Daffodil-An entirely different group of 6+ players took over the sojourner roster in main after it died. The problems with a different team taking over an already existing roster mid-season when they were not the team that produced its match results should be more than obvious. On top of that, the team was likely much better than the rest of the teams in main as well and would have been placed in advanced if they had registered in the preseason.

It was an oversight to not to write down formal roster hijacking rules, but trying to spin this as an abuse of "admin discretion" is extremely misleading. It would have been a huge mistake to do nothing or otherwise pretend not to notice.

[quote=dishsoap]yo wait buildbruh the roster hijacking thing wasnt my fault LOL that was a meme me and rowpieces did. that team just died on its own after i joined, it made a hilarious coincidence.[/quote]

I'm not blaming you for the hijack or anything, funny meme in retrospect but it killed anyone who didnt know about its prospects for joining another team. Can't even really say that was your fault either; the admins never denied or clarified why you and the roster were instantly dissolved other than

[quote=Daffodil-]An entirely different group of 6+ players took over the sojourner roster in main after it died. The problems with a different team taking over an already existing roster mid-season when they were not the team that produced its match results should be more than obvious. On top of that, the team was likely much better than the rest of the teams in main as well and would have been placed in advanced if they had registered in the preseason.

It was an oversight to not to write down formal roster hijacking rules, but trying to spin this as an abuse of "admin discretion" is [i]extremely[/i] misleading. It would have been a huge mistake to do nothing or otherwise pretend not to notice.[/quote]

#175

ScrewB

-1 Frags – +

GG GREGORY

#176

Air_

21 Frags – +

Brimstonealso because esea had established roster hijack rules: multiple teams have been hilariously and accidentally killed in the past for forgetting to follow them

tri himself literally had his OWN team die in s21 because they didn't follow roster hijacking rules

[quote=Brimstone]also because esea had established roster hijack rules: multiple teams have been hilariously and accidentally killed in the past for forgetting to follow them[/quote]

tri himself literally had his OWN team die in s21 because they didn't follow roster hijacking rules

#177

dbk

-13 Frags – +

gg banditos

edit: im getting downfragged and for once i geniunely dont why

gg banditos

edit: im getting downfragged and for once i geniunely dont why

#178

Air_

6 Frags – +

dbkgg banditos

edit: im getting downfragged and for once i geniunely dont why

gg <teamname> posts are by far the worse things on happenings threads. instead of saying "gg banditos" spread some drama like a proper adult

[quote=dbk]gg banditos

edit: im getting downfragged and for once i geniunely dont why[/quote]

gg <teamname> posts are by far the worse things on happenings threads. instead of saying "gg banditos" spread some drama like a proper adult

#179

dbk

3 Frags – +

here ill redeem myself by posting this embarrassing clip of myself from our match

https://clips.twitch.tv/SteamyPreciousBearThisIsSparta

here ill redeem myself by posting this embarrassing clip of myself from our match

https://clips.twitch.tv/SteamyPreciousBearThisIsSparta

#180

Air_

13 Frags – +

dbkhere ill redeem myself by posting this embarrassing clip of myself from our match

https://clips.twitch.tv/SteamyPreciousBearThisIsSparta

can rgl give brimstone a 2 week suspension for his game looking like that

[quote=dbk]here ill redeem myself by posting this embarrassing clip of myself from our match

https://clips.twitch.tv/SteamyPreciousBearThisIsSparta[/quote]

can rgl give brimstone a 2 week suspension for his game looking like that