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RGL Bans
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the monthly rgl ban thread
it doesn't even surprise me anymore at this point
the monthly rgl ban thread
it doesn't even surprise me anymore at this point
it doesn't even surprise me anymore at this point
I have no sympathy for these anti-semites. don't they realize that if people say the word Jew in a derogatory sense it will invoke anudda shoah? never forget the exactly 6 million
I have no sympathy for these anti-semites. don't they realize that if people say the word Jew in a derogatory sense it will invoke anudda shoah? never forget the exactly 6 million
Shameful display, vanta. Straight up bullshit. I never thought I'd say it but here is actual "Fake News". Our match against Sorrow's Soldiers was on 02/25/20.
https://i.imgur.com/Bx3GpxC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8PzGauq.jpg
Here's that same dialogue from Discord with the date on (1/27/20). I guess you took a screenshot of this right as it was said? I really don't recall this being at 11:53am but I guess it was? What the fuck is wrong with you man? The obvious thing is that these words are about something that happened way earlier and are not about this current drama. Someone said some nasty stuff to me. It wasn't that serious and it didn't amount to anything. You see the word underlined in orange? That word was used a lot in the text above and below this -sarcastically- because that's what got golden banned. He jokingly changed his steam name to that for 10 seconds before a SCRIM in my PRIVATE server in a PRIVATE game between two teams that has basically nothing to do with RGL and our whole team got derailed by this. And based on some inside information it seems like this was done "for the lulz". No one was offended by anything. It was not aimed at anyone and there was no context for it whatsoever.
There's definitely a huge policing overreach problem with RGL. That's probably the league's biggest flaw that everyone is currently struggling with. The intentions may be good but the implementation is utterly flawed. Currently the system can simply be weaponized by teams against other teams to take out the competition outside of the game. Soon after the golden incident we had our match with the team that reported him and, go figure, we lost without our best player. RGL's noble goal is to avoid alienating anyone and removing hate speech and being a welcoming environment for all but I think when you do this by way of fear (of getting banned) you just create disdain for the org and its rules while encouraging others to use your system for spite. Whether or not certain behavior is acceptable by a community is a reflection of society's views at large. Over the years they HAVE been getting less hostile towards all minorities but you need to let it go at its own pace. When someone goes around saying something commonly considered a terrible slur the community at large will not want to associate with them and they'll eventually end up exiled, for lack of a better term. Until then, overpolicing is not going to accelerate this process. "Tolerance" is often touted as a very positive term but it's actually pretty trash compared to "Acceptance". Anyway this is just my opinion and I obviously lean towards letting people say whatever they want and then suffering the fallout from it naturally. I can type a lot more about this but I'll save it.
'24' here is calling us out for suddenly denying their ringer 10 minutes after the start time or whatever and accusing us of bad sportsmanship. First of all most of the delay to start the game was literally because we were sorting out the ringer situation with you, not springing it on you 10 minutes after 1030pm. We got into the server and a couple of people go "wait a sec, is that Owib?". And it was. There were a couple of "whatever's" but a bunch of us decided that we'd rather not play against this player who's got $$ winnings from last season in Advanced and was then still rostered on an Advanced team. IMO he doesn't belong in this div. Shoutout to him, he's really very good! There are also some other players on other teams that I feel don't belong in the div but it's not my place to challenge that. But when it's my team about to play right then and there, YES, that IS a good time to challenge this type of thing. So I double checked by messaging an admin and it eventually came back that he's only allowed to play medic. You can make the distinction all you want between a ringer and someone rostered on your team but I don't see him rostered on your team now which tells me that the same admin ruling applies to actual rostering and not just ringing him. We were not trying to sleaze you out of a fair game or collect an easy win. From our POV it's YOUR bad sportsmanship for trying to roster and pound us with an Advanced player. I don't recall us denying anyone else but I do remember saying something like "Can't you guys find, ya know, a MAIN player for this match between our MAIN teams?" You said that we were the ones bm'ing you and being rude. No actually it's more the other way. We were dry and straightforward about what our issues were and you were the ones getting pissy, though it's understandable due to the circumstances. Some pretty rude stuff was said by you guys, mostly before the game as I recall, and one last colorful zinger after the game by your main medic.
Yeah it's mostly bullshit that you can do this in this league and part of my intent was to pass some of the grief on that was done onto my team. Except here it was in a match and with context. But most importantly I felt fine reporting because you guys were being pricks. I can say plainly that I'm not too offended--mostly because I don't offend easily--but what you said is very distasteful. The word Jew is not inherently offensive but using a name of a minority as a verb is kinda bad. Try it yourself with any other such term. If it were possible to actually quantify my level of offense would it really make a difference in whether this was justified? I am Semitic. I have been bullied before with people using anti-semitic remarks. I'm 99.9% sure they didn't actually hate Jews but were just saying whatever the most shocking and hurtful things they could think of were. Does that make it not offensive? My sister actually had the shit beaten out of her numerous times as a teen and called really bad slurs (in Russia, she was born in 1971). There's more troubled history the further back you go with parents and grandparents, etc. Does any of this stuff even matter? I realize I'm playing both sides of the court at once here. RGL is way overzealous with enforcement of this stuff and I'd like to see this change (but I'm not holding my breath) but at the same time I'm not sorry for reporting this because you guys were being twats.
Shameful display, vanta. Straight up bullshit. I never thought I'd say it but here is actual "Fake News". Our match against Sorrow's Soldiers was on 02/25/20.
https://i.imgur.com/Bx3GpxC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8PzGauq.jpg
Here's that same dialogue from Discord with the date on (1/27/20). I guess you took a screenshot of this right as it was said? I really don't recall this being at 11:53am but I guess it was? What the fuck is wrong with you man? The obvious thing is that these words are about something that happened way earlier and are not about this current drama. Someone said some nasty stuff to me. It wasn't that serious and it didn't amount to anything. You see the word underlined in orange? That word was used a lot in the text above and below this -sarcastically- because that's what got golden banned. He jokingly changed his steam name to that for 10 seconds before a SCRIM in my PRIVATE server in a PRIVATE game between two teams that has basically nothing to do with RGL and our whole team got derailed by this. And based on some inside information it seems like this was done "for the lulz". No one was offended by anything. It was not aimed at anyone and there was no context for it whatsoever.
There's definitely a huge policing overreach problem with RGL. That's probably the league's biggest flaw that everyone is currently struggling with. The intentions may be good but the implementation is utterly flawed. Currently the system can simply be weaponized by teams against other teams to take out the competition outside of the game. Soon after the golden incident we had our match with the team that reported him and, go figure, we lost without our best player. RGL's noble goal is to avoid alienating anyone and removing hate speech and being a welcoming environment for all but I think when you do this by way of fear (of getting banned) you just create disdain for the org and its rules while encouraging others to use your system for spite. Whether or not certain behavior is acceptable by a community is a reflection of society's views at large. Over the years they HAVE been getting less hostile towards all minorities but you need to let it go at its own pace. When someone goes around saying something commonly considered a terrible slur the community at large will not want to associate with them and they'll eventually end up exiled, for lack of a better term. Until then, overpolicing is not going to accelerate this process. "Tolerance" is often touted as a very positive term but it's actually pretty trash compared to "Acceptance". Anyway this is just my opinion and I obviously lean towards letting people say whatever they want and then suffering the fallout from it naturally. I can type a lot more about this but I'll save it.
'24' here is calling us out for suddenly denying their ringer 10 minutes after the start time or whatever and accusing us of bad sportsmanship. First of all most of the delay to start the game was literally because we were sorting out the ringer situation with you, not springing it on you 10 minutes after 1030pm. We got into the server and a couple of people go "wait a sec, is that Owib?". And it was. There were a couple of "whatever's" but a bunch of us decided that we'd rather not play against this player who's got $$ winnings from last season in Advanced and was then still rostered on an Advanced team. IMO he doesn't belong in this div. Shoutout to him, he's really very good! There are also some other players on other teams that I feel don't belong in the div but it's not my place to challenge that. But when it's my team about to play right then and there, YES, that IS a good time to challenge this type of thing. So I double checked by messaging an admin and it eventually came back that he's only allowed to play medic. You can make the distinction all you want between a ringer and someone rostered on your team but I don't see him rostered on your team now which tells me that the same admin ruling applies to actual rostering and not just ringing him. We were not trying to sleaze you out of a fair game or collect an easy win. From our POV it's YOUR bad sportsmanship for trying to roster and pound us with an Advanced player. I don't recall us denying anyone else but I do remember saying something like "Can't you guys find, ya know, a MAIN player for this match between our MAIN teams?" You said that we were the ones bm'ing you and being rude. No actually it's more the other way. We were dry and straightforward about what our issues were and you were the ones getting pissy, though it's understandable due to the circumstances. Some pretty rude stuff was said by you guys, mostly before the game as I recall, and one last colorful zinger after the game by your main medic.
Yeah it's mostly bullshit that you can do this in this league and part of my intent was to pass some of the grief on that was done onto my team. Except here it was in a match and with context. But most importantly I felt fine reporting because you guys were being pricks. I can say plainly that I'm not too offended--mostly because I don't offend easily--but what you said is very distasteful. The word Jew is not inherently offensive but using a name of a minority as a verb is kinda bad. Try it yourself with any other such term. If it were possible to actually quantify my level of offense would it really make a difference in whether this was justified? I am Semitic. I have been bullied before with people using anti-semitic remarks. I'm 99.9% sure they didn't actually hate Jews but were just saying whatever the most shocking and hurtful things they could think of were. Does that make it not offensive? My sister actually had the shit beaten out of her numerous times as a teen and called really bad slurs (in Russia, she was born in 1971). There's more troubled history the further back you go with parents and grandparents, etc. Does any of this stuff even matter? I realize I'm playing both sides of the court at once here. RGL is way overzealous with enforcement of this stuff and I'd like to see this change (but I'm not holding my breath) but at the same time I'm not sorry for reporting this because you guys were being twats.
https://i.imgur.com/Bx3GpxC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8PzGauq.jpg
Here's that same dialogue from Discord with the date on (1/27/20). I guess you took a screenshot of this right as it was said? I really don't recall this being at 11:53am but I guess it was? What the fuck is wrong with you man? The obvious thing is that these words are about something that happened way earlier and are not about this current drama. Someone said some nasty stuff to me. It wasn't that serious and it didn't amount to anything. You see the word underlined in orange? That word was used a lot in the text above and below this -sarcastically- because that's what got golden banned. He jokingly changed his steam name to that for 10 seconds before a SCRIM in my PRIVATE server in a PRIVATE game between two teams that has basically nothing to do with RGL and our whole team got derailed by this. And based on some inside information it seems like this was done "for the lulz". No one was offended by anything. It was not aimed at anyone and there was no context for it whatsoever.
There's definitely a huge policing overreach problem with RGL. That's probably the league's biggest flaw that everyone is currently struggling with. The intentions may be good but the implementation is utterly flawed. Currently the system can simply be weaponized by teams against other teams to take out the competition outside of the game. Soon after the golden incident we had our match with the team that reported him and, go figure, we lost without our best player. RGL's noble goal is to avoid alienating anyone and removing hate speech and being a welcoming environment for all but I think when you do this by way of fear (of getting banned) you just create disdain for the org and its rules while encouraging others to use your system for spite. Whether or not certain behavior is acceptable by a community is a reflection of society's views at large. Over the years they HAVE been getting less hostile towards all minorities but you need to let it go at its own pace. When someone goes around saying something commonly considered a terrible slur the community at large will not want to associate with them and they'll eventually end up exiled, for lack of a better term. Until then, overpolicing is not going to accelerate this process. "Tolerance" is often touted as a very positive term but it's actually pretty trash compared to "Acceptance". Anyway this is just my opinion and I obviously lean towards letting people say whatever they want and then suffering the fallout from it naturally. I can type a lot more about this but I'll save it.
'24' here is calling us out for suddenly denying their ringer 10 minutes after the start time or whatever and accusing us of bad sportsmanship. First of all most of the delay to start the game was literally because we were sorting out the ringer situation with you, not springing it on you 10 minutes after 1030pm. We got into the server and a couple of people go "wait a sec, is that Owib?". And it was. There were a couple of "whatever's" but a bunch of us decided that we'd rather not play against this player who's got $$ winnings from last season in Advanced and was then still rostered on an Advanced team. IMO he doesn't belong in this div. Shoutout to him, he's really very good! There are also some other players on other teams that I feel don't belong in the div but it's not my place to challenge that. But when it's my team about to play right then and there, YES, that IS a good time to challenge this type of thing. So I double checked by messaging an admin and it eventually came back that he's only allowed to play medic. You can make the distinction all you want between a ringer and someone rostered on your team but I don't see him rostered on your team now which tells me that the same admin ruling applies to actual rostering and not just ringing him. We were not trying to sleaze you out of a fair game or collect an easy win. From our POV it's YOUR bad sportsmanship for trying to roster and pound us with an Advanced player. I don't recall us denying anyone else but I do remember saying something like "Can't you guys find, ya know, a MAIN player for this match between our MAIN teams?" You said that we were the ones bm'ing you and being rude. No actually it's more the other way. We were dry and straightforward about what our issues were and you were the ones getting pissy, though it's understandable due to the circumstances. Some pretty rude stuff was said by you guys, mostly before the game as I recall, and one last colorful zinger after the game by your main medic.
Yeah it's mostly bullshit that you can do this in this league and part of my intent was to pass some of the grief on that was done onto my team. Except here it was in a match and with context. But most importantly I felt fine reporting because you guys were being pricks. I can say plainly that I'm not too offended--mostly because I don't offend easily--but what you said is very distasteful. The word Jew is not inherently offensive but using a name of a minority as a verb is kinda bad. Try it yourself with any other such term. If it were possible to actually quantify my level of offense would it really make a difference in whether this was justified? I am Semitic. I have been bullied before with people using anti-semitic remarks. I'm 99.9% sure they didn't actually hate Jews but were just saying whatever the most shocking and hurtful things they could think of were. Does that make it not offensive? My sister actually had the shit beaten out of her numerous times as a teen and called really bad slurs (in Russia, she was born in 1971). There's more troubled history the further back you go with parents and grandparents, etc. Does any of this stuff even matter? I realize I'm playing both sides of the court at once here. RGL is way overzealous with enforcement of this stuff and I'd like to see this change (but I'm not holding my breath) but at the same time I'm not sorry for reporting this because you guys were being twats.
JaguarFiendShameful display, vanta. Straight up bullshit. I never thought I'd say it but here is actual "Fake News". Our match against Sorrow's Soldiers was on 02/25/20.
https://i.imgur.com/Bx3GpxC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8PzGauq.jpg
Here's that same dialogue from Discord with the date on (1/27/20). I guess you took a screenshot of this right as it was said? I really don't recall this being at 11:53am but I guess it was? What the fuck is wrong with you man? The obvious thing is that these words are about something that happened way earlier and are not about this current drama. Someone said some nasty stuff to me. It wasn't that serious and it didn't amount to anything. You see the word underlined in orange? That word was used a lot in the text above and below this -sarcastically- because that's what got golden banned. He jokingly changed his steam name to that for 10 seconds before a SCRIM in my PRIVATE server in a PRIVATE game between two teams that has basically nothing to do with RGL and our whole team got derailed by this. And based on some inside information it seems like this was done "for the lulz". No one was offended by anything. It was not aimed at anyone and there was no context for it whatsoever.
There's definitely a huge policing overreach problem with RGL. That's probably the league's biggest flaw that everyone is currently struggling with. The intentions may be good but the implementation is utterly flawed. Currently the system can simply be weaponized by teams against other teams to take out the competition outside of the game. Soon after the golden incident we had our match with the team that reported him and, go figure, we lost without our best player. RGL's noble goal is to avoid alienating anyone and removing hate speech and being a welcoming environment for all but I think when you do this by way of fear (of getting banned) you just create disdain for the org and its rules while encouraging others to use your system for spite. Whether or not certain behavior is acceptable by a community is a reflection of society's views at large. Over the years they HAVE been getting less hostile towards all minorities but you need to let it go at its own pace. When someone goes around saying something commonly considered a terrible slur the community at large will not want to associate with them and they'll eventually end up exiled, for lack of a better term. Until then, overpolicing is not going to accelerate this process. "Tolerance" is often touted as a very positive term but it's actually pretty trash compared to "Acceptance". Anyway this is just my opinion and I obviously lean towards letting people say whatever they want and then suffering the fallout from it naturally. I can type a lot more about this but I'll save it.
'24' here is calling us out for suddenly denying their ringer 10 minutes after the start time or whatever and accusing us of bad sportsmanship. First of all most of the delay to start the game was literally because we were sorting out the ringer situation with you, not springing it on you 10 minutes after 1030pm. We got into the server and a couple of people go "wait a sec, is that Owib?". And it was. There were a couple of "whatever's" but a bunch of us decided that we'd rather not play against this player who's got $$ winnings from last season in Advanced and was then still rostered on an Advanced team. IMO he doesn't belong in this div. Shoutout to him, he's really very good! There are also some other players on other teams that I feel don't belong in the div but it's not my place to challenge that. But when it's my team about to play right then and there, YES, that IS a good time to challenge this type of thing. So I double checked by messaging an admin and it eventually came back that he's only allowed to play medic. You can make the distinction all you want between a ringer and someone rostered on your team but I don't see him rostered on your team now which tells me that the same admin ruling applies to actual rostering and not just ringing him. We were not trying to sleaze you out of a fair game or collect an easy win. From our POV it's YOUR bad sportsmanship for trying to roster and pound us with an Advanced player. I don't recall us denying anyone else but I do remember saying something like "Can't you guys find, ya know, a MAIN player for this match between our MAIN teams?" You said that we were the ones bm'ing you and being rude. No actually it's more the other way. We were dry and straightforward about what our issues were and you were the ones getting pissy, though it's understandable due to the circumstances. Some pretty rude stuff was said by you guys, mostly before the game as I recall, and one last colorful zinger after the game by your main medic.
Yeah it's mostly bullshit that you can do this in this league and part of my intent was to pass some of the grief on that was done onto my team. Except here it was in a match and with context. But most importantly I felt fine reporting because you guys were being pricks. I can say plainly that I'm not too offended--mostly because I don't offend easily--but what you said is very distasteful. The word Jew is not inherently offensive but using a name of a minority as a verb is kinda bad. Try it yourself with any other such term. If it were possible to actually quantify my level of offense would it really make a difference in whether this was justified? I am Semitic. I have been bullied before with people using anti-semitic remarks. I'm 99.9% sure they didn't actually hate Jews but were just saying whatever the most shocking and hurtful things they could think of were. Does that make it not offensive? My sister actually had the shit beaten out of her numerous times as a teen and called really bad slurs (in Russia, she was born in 1971). There's more troubled history the further back you go with parents and grandparents, etc. Does any of this stuff even matter? I realize I'm playing both sides of the court at once here. RGL is way overzealous with enforcement of this stuff and I'd like to see this change (but I'm not holding my breath) but at the same time I'm not sorry for reporting this because you guys were being twats.
dear diary
[quote=JaguarFiend]Shameful display, vanta. Straight up bullshit. I never thought I'd say it but here is actual "Fake News". Our match against Sorrow's Soldiers was on 02/25/20.
https://i.imgur.com/Bx3GpxC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8PzGauq.jpg
Here's that same dialogue from Discord with the date on (1/27/20). I guess you took a screenshot of this right as it was said? I really don't recall this being at 11:53am but I guess it was? What the fuck is wrong with you man? The obvious thing is that these words are about something that happened way earlier and are not about this current drama. Someone said some nasty stuff to me. It wasn't that serious and it didn't amount to anything. You see the word underlined in orange? That word was used a lot in the text above and below this -sarcastically- because that's what got golden banned. He jokingly changed his steam name to that for 10 seconds before a SCRIM in my PRIVATE server in a PRIVATE game between two teams that has basically nothing to do with RGL and our whole team got derailed by this. And based on some inside information it seems like this was done "for the lulz". No one was offended by anything. It was not aimed at anyone and there was no context for it whatsoever.
There's definitely a huge policing overreach problem with RGL. That's probably the league's biggest flaw that everyone is currently struggling with. The intentions may be good but the implementation is utterly flawed. Currently the system can simply be weaponized by teams against other teams to take out the competition outside of the game. Soon after the golden incident we had our match with the team that reported him and, go figure, we lost without our best player. RGL's noble goal is to avoid alienating anyone and removing hate speech and being a welcoming environment for all but I think when you do this by way of fear (of getting banned) you just create disdain for the org and its rules while encouraging others to use your system for spite. Whether or not certain behavior is acceptable by a community is a reflection of society's views at large. Over the years they HAVE been getting less hostile towards all minorities but you need to let it go at its own pace. When someone goes around saying something commonly considered a terrible slur the community at large will not want to associate with them and they'll eventually end up exiled, for lack of a better term. Until then, overpolicing is not going to accelerate this process. "Tolerance" is often touted as a very positive term but it's actually pretty trash compared to "Acceptance". Anyway this is just my opinion and I obviously lean towards letting people say whatever they want and then suffering the fallout from it naturally. I can type a lot more about this but I'll save it.
'24' here is calling us out for suddenly denying their ringer 10 minutes after the start time or whatever and accusing us of bad sportsmanship. First of all most of the delay to start the game was literally because we were sorting out the ringer situation with you, not springing it on you 10 minutes after 1030pm. We got into the server and a couple of people go "wait a sec, is that Owib?". And it was. There were a couple of "whatever's" but a bunch of us decided that we'd rather not play against this player who's got $$ winnings from last season in Advanced and was then still rostered on an Advanced team. IMO he doesn't belong in this div. Shoutout to him, he's really very good! There are also some other players on other teams that I feel don't belong in the div but it's not my place to challenge that. But when it's my team about to play right then and there, YES, that IS a good time to challenge this type of thing. So I double checked by messaging an admin and it eventually came back that he's only allowed to play medic. You can make the distinction all you want between a ringer and someone rostered on your team but I don't see him rostered on your team now which tells me that the same admin ruling applies to actual rostering and not just ringing him. We were not trying to sleaze you out of a fair game or collect an easy win. From our POV it's YOUR bad sportsmanship for trying to roster and pound us with an Advanced player. I don't recall us denying anyone else but I do remember saying something like "Can't you guys find, ya know, a MAIN player for this match between our MAIN teams?" You said that we were the ones bm'ing you and being rude. No actually it's more the other way. We were dry and straightforward about what our issues were and you were the ones getting pissy, though it's understandable due to the circumstances. Some pretty rude stuff was said by you guys, mostly before the game as I recall, and one last colorful zinger after the game by your main medic.
Yeah it's mostly bullshit that you can do this in this league and part of my intent was to pass some of the grief on that was done onto my team. Except here it was in a match and with context. But most importantly I felt fine reporting because you guys were being pricks. I can say plainly that I'm not too offended--mostly because I don't offend easily--but what you said is very distasteful. The word Jew is not inherently offensive but using a name of a minority as a verb is kinda bad. Try it yourself with any other such term. If it were possible to actually quantify my level of offense would it really make a difference in whether this was justified? I am Semitic. I have been bullied before with people using anti-semitic remarks. I'm 99.9% sure they didn't actually hate Jews but were just saying whatever the most shocking and hurtful things they could think of were. Does that make it not offensive? My sister actually had the shit beaten out of her numerous times as a teen and called really bad slurs (in Russia, she was born in 1971). There's more troubled history the further back you go with parents and grandparents, etc. Does any of this stuff even matter? I realize I'm playing both sides of the court at once here. RGL is way overzealous with enforcement of this stuff and I'd like to see this change (but I'm not holding my breath) but at the same time I'm not sorry for reporting this because you guys were being twats.[/quote]
dear diary
https://i.imgur.com/Bx3GpxC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8PzGauq.jpg
Here's that same dialogue from Discord with the date on (1/27/20). I guess you took a screenshot of this right as it was said? I really don't recall this being at 11:53am but I guess it was? What the fuck is wrong with you man? The obvious thing is that these words are about something that happened way earlier and are not about this current drama. Someone said some nasty stuff to me. It wasn't that serious and it didn't amount to anything. You see the word underlined in orange? That word was used a lot in the text above and below this -sarcastically- because that's what got golden banned. He jokingly changed his steam name to that for 10 seconds before a SCRIM in my PRIVATE server in a PRIVATE game between two teams that has basically nothing to do with RGL and our whole team got derailed by this. And based on some inside information it seems like this was done "for the lulz". No one was offended by anything. It was not aimed at anyone and there was no context for it whatsoever.
There's definitely a huge policing overreach problem with RGL. That's probably the league's biggest flaw that everyone is currently struggling with. The intentions may be good but the implementation is utterly flawed. Currently the system can simply be weaponized by teams against other teams to take out the competition outside of the game. Soon after the golden incident we had our match with the team that reported him and, go figure, we lost without our best player. RGL's noble goal is to avoid alienating anyone and removing hate speech and being a welcoming environment for all but I think when you do this by way of fear (of getting banned) you just create disdain for the org and its rules while encouraging others to use your system for spite. Whether or not certain behavior is acceptable by a community is a reflection of society's views at large. Over the years they HAVE been getting less hostile towards all minorities but you need to let it go at its own pace. When someone goes around saying something commonly considered a terrible slur the community at large will not want to associate with them and they'll eventually end up exiled, for lack of a better term. Until then, overpolicing is not going to accelerate this process. "Tolerance" is often touted as a very positive term but it's actually pretty trash compared to "Acceptance". Anyway this is just my opinion and I obviously lean towards letting people say whatever they want and then suffering the fallout from it naturally. I can type a lot more about this but I'll save it.
'24' here is calling us out for suddenly denying their ringer 10 minutes after the start time or whatever and accusing us of bad sportsmanship. First of all most of the delay to start the game was literally because we were sorting out the ringer situation with you, not springing it on you 10 minutes after 1030pm. We got into the server and a couple of people go "wait a sec, is that Owib?". And it was. There were a couple of "whatever's" but a bunch of us decided that we'd rather not play against this player who's got $$ winnings from last season in Advanced and was then still rostered on an Advanced team. IMO he doesn't belong in this div. Shoutout to him, he's really very good! There are also some other players on other teams that I feel don't belong in the div but it's not my place to challenge that. But when it's my team about to play right then and there, YES, that IS a good time to challenge this type of thing. So I double checked by messaging an admin and it eventually came back that he's only allowed to play medic. You can make the distinction all you want between a ringer and someone rostered on your team but I don't see him rostered on your team now which tells me that the same admin ruling applies to actual rostering and not just ringing him. We were not trying to sleaze you out of a fair game or collect an easy win. From our POV it's YOUR bad sportsmanship for trying to roster and pound us with an Advanced player. I don't recall us denying anyone else but I do remember saying something like "Can't you guys find, ya know, a MAIN player for this match between our MAIN teams?" You said that we were the ones bm'ing you and being rude. No actually it's more the other way. We were dry and straightforward about what our issues were and you were the ones getting pissy, though it's understandable due to the circumstances. Some pretty rude stuff was said by you guys, mostly before the game as I recall, and one last colorful zinger after the game by your main medic.
Yeah it's mostly bullshit that you can do this in this league and part of my intent was to pass some of the grief on that was done onto my team. Except here it was in a match and with context. But most importantly I felt fine reporting because you guys were being pricks. I can say plainly that I'm not too offended--mostly because I don't offend easily--but what you said is very distasteful. The word Jew is not inherently offensive but using a name of a minority as a verb is kinda bad. Try it yourself with any other such term. If it were possible to actually quantify my level of offense would it really make a difference in whether this was justified? I am Semitic. I have been bullied before with people using anti-semitic remarks. I'm 99.9% sure they didn't actually hate Jews but were just saying whatever the most shocking and hurtful things they could think of were. Does that make it not offensive? My sister actually had the shit beaten out of her numerous times as a teen and called really bad slurs (in Russia, she was born in 1971). There's more troubled history the further back you go with parents and grandparents, etc. Does any of this stuff even matter? I realize I'm playing both sides of the court at once here. RGL is way overzealous with enforcement of this stuff and I'd like to see this change (but I'm not holding my breath) but at the same time I'm not sorry for reporting this because you guys were being twats.[/quote]
dear diary
Jag you can def summarize this down into 2 short paragraphs without adding in unnecessary details bro
Jag you can def summarize this down into 2 short paragraphs without adding in unnecessary details bro
SpuBrockFor real you guys are idiots if you get banned for saying shit in a chat boxdont care didnt read autodownfragged because your posts suck
they are better then yours, and who gives a royal shit about this retarded frag system
if you cant watch what you type during in official, you are are stupid as fuck.
[quote=Spu][quote=Brock]For real you guys are idiots if you get banned for saying shit in a chat box[/quote]
dont care didnt read autodownfragged because your posts suck[/quote]
they are better then yours, and who gives a royal shit about this retarded frag system
if you cant watch what you type during in official, you are are stupid as fuck.
dont care didnt read autodownfragged because your posts suck[/quote]
they are better then yours, and who gives a royal shit about this retarded frag system
if you cant watch what you type during in official, you are are stupid as fuck.
JaguarFiendShameful display, vanta. Straight up bullshit. I never thought I'd say it but here is actual "Fake News". Our match against Sorrow's Soldiers was on 02/25/20.
[quote=JaguarFiend]Shameful display, vanta. Straight up bullshit. I never thought I'd say it but here is actual "Fake News". Our match against Sorrow's Soldiers was on 02/25/20.
[/quote]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/R543zsy.png[/img]
[/quote]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/R543zsy.png[/img]
hamahamhttps://i.imgur.com/yBnLXLs.png
This.
[quote=hamaham][img]https://i.imgur.com/yBnLXLs.png[/img][/quote]
This.
This.
hi ima american, my hobbies include being banned from videogame league, making terrible posts, and pedophilia
hi ima american, my hobbies include being banned from videogame league, making terrible posts, and pedophilia
BumFreezehi ima american, my hobbies include being banned from videogame league, making terrible posts, and pedophilia
hoho! a funny! top lollington!! that'll show those nonces how comedy is done
[quote=BumFreeze]hi ima american, my hobbies include being banned from videogame league, making terrible posts, and pedophilia[/quote]
hoho! a funny! top lollington!! that'll show those nonces how comedy is done
hoho! a funny! top lollington!! that'll show those nonces how comedy is done
SpadesBumFreezehi ima american, my hobbies include being banned from videogame league, making terrible posts, and pedophiliahoho! a funny! top lollington!! that'll show those nonces how comedy is done
shut up brit circlejerk retard man i hate euros
[quote=Spades][quote=BumFreeze]hi ima american, my hobbies include being banned from videogame league, making terrible posts, and pedophilia[/quote]
hoho! a funny! top lollington!! that'll show those nonces how comedy is done[/quote]
shut up brit circlejerk retard man i hate euros
hoho! a funny! top lollington!! that'll show those nonces how comedy is done[/quote]
shut up brit circlejerk retard man i hate euros
BumFreezeSpadesshut up brit circlejerk retard man i hate eurosBumFreezehi ima american, my hobbies include being banned from videogame league, making terrible posts, and pedophiliahoho! a funny! top lollington!! that'll show those nonces how comedy is done
blast ive been had. nothing to do except wait for another nonce to pop up, least i have my fellow hilarious friends from across the pond to make amerifats' threads look good in comparison. cheerio!
[quote=BumFreeze][quote=Spades][quote=BumFreeze]hi ima american, my hobbies include being banned from videogame league, making terrible posts, and pedophilia[/quote]
hoho! a funny! top lollington!! that'll show those nonces how comedy is done[/quote]
shut up brit circlejerk retard man i hate euros[/quote]
blast ive been had. nothing to do except wait for another nonce to pop up, least i have my fellow hilarious friends from across the pond to make amerifats' threads look good in comparison. cheerio!
hoho! a funny! top lollington!! that'll show those nonces how comedy is done[/quote]
shut up brit circlejerk retard man i hate euros[/quote]
blast ive been had. nothing to do except wait for another nonce to pop up, least i have my fellow hilarious friends from across the pond to make amerifats' threads look good in comparison. cheerio!
BrockSpuBrockFor real you guys are idiots if you get banned for saying shit in a chat boxdont care didnt read autodownfragged because your posts suck
they are better then yours, and who gives a royal shit about this retarded frag system
if you cant watch what you type during in official, you are are stupid as fuck.
You suck
[quote=Brock][quote=Spu][quote=Brock]For real you guys are idiots if you get banned for saying shit in a chat box[/quote]
dont care didnt read autodownfragged because your posts suck[/quote]
they are better then yours, and who gives a royal shit about this retarded frag system
if you cant watch what you type during in official, you are are stupid as fuck.[/quote]
You suck
dont care didnt read autodownfragged because your posts suck[/quote]
they are better then yours, and who gives a royal shit about this retarded frag system
if you cant watch what you type during in official, you are are stupid as fuck.[/quote]
You suck
i fully believe it is not only my human right but my duty to make fun of tf2 players, yet rgl dares to stand against me in my righteous quest
i fully believe it is not only my human right but my duty to make fun of tf2 players, yet rgl dares to stand against me in my righteous quest
2Meloni fully believe it is not only my human right but my duty to make fun of tf2 players, yet rgl dares to stand against me in my righteous quest
Godspeed, saviour.
[quote=2Melon]i fully believe it is not only my human right but my duty to make fun of tf2 players, yet rgl dares to stand against me in my righteous quest[/quote]
Godspeed, saviour.
Godspeed, saviour.
JaguarFiend.
I can completely understand your sentiment, too bad you wrote way too much text for people to read and reply so they will disregard what you said because you made a mistake in an earlier post.
[quote=JaguarFiend].[/quote]
I can completely understand your sentiment, too bad you wrote way too much text for people to read and reply so they will disregard what you said because you made a mistake in an earlier post.
I can completely understand your sentiment, too bad you wrote way too much text for people to read and reply so they will disregard what you said because you made a mistake in an earlier post.
IMO you should really just stick to more direct and truthful insults that aren't along their race sex or religion. For example, I called Jaguar a "Pedophile," and wasn't banned because that's just a mere observation.
IMO you should really just stick to more direct and truthful insults that aren't along their race sex or religion. For example, I called Jaguar a "Pedophile," and wasn't banned because that's just a mere observation.
Welcome to North American Team Fortress Two! Please choose your subclass, Nonce or Racist.
Welcome to North American Team Fortress Two! Please choose your subclass, Nonce or Racist.
jag clearly suffers from aspergers or similar give the man a break
jag clearly suffers from aspergers or similar give the man a break
OwibIMO you should really just stick to more direct and truthful insults that aren't along their race sex or religion. For example, I called Jaguar a "Pedophile," and wasn't banned because that's just a mere observation.
tbh if your jokes or insults are only related to sex, religion, race, etc. your shit at joking around and insulting
[quote=Owib]IMO you should really just stick to more direct and truthful insults that aren't along their race sex or religion. For example, I called Jaguar a "Pedophile," and wasn't banned because that's just a mere observation.[/quote]
tbh if your jokes or insults are only related to sex, religion, race, etc. your shit at joking around and insulting
tbh if your jokes or insults are only related to sex, religion, race, etc. your shit at joking around and insulting
JaguarFiendShameful display, vanta. Straight up bullshit. I never thought I'd say it but here is actual "Fake News". Our match against Sorrow's Soldiers was on 02/25/20.
https://i.imgur.com/Bx3GpxC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8PzGauq.jpg
Here's that same dialogue from Discord with the date on (1/27/20). I guess you took a screenshot of this right as it was said? I really don't recall this being at 11:53am but I guess it was? What the fuck is wrong with you man? The obvious thing is that these words are about something that happened way earlier and are not about this current drama. Someone said some nasty stuff to me. It wasn't that serious and it didn't amount to anything. You see the word underlined in orange? That word was used a lot in the text above and below this -sarcastically- because that's what got golden banned. He jokingly changed his steam name to that for 10 seconds before a SCRIM in my PRIVATE server in a PRIVATE game between two teams that has basically nothing to do with RGL and our whole team got derailed by this. And based on some inside information it seems like this was done "for the lulz". No one was offended by anything. It was not aimed at anyone and there was no context for it whatsoever.
There's definitely a huge policing overreach problem with RGL. That's probably the league's biggest flaw that everyone is currently struggling with. The intentions may be good but the implementation is utterly flawed. Currently the system can simply be weaponized by teams against other teams to take out the competition outside of the game. Soon after the golden incident we had our match with the team that reported him and, go figure, we lost without our best player. RGL's noble goal is to avoid alienating anyone and removing hate speech and being a welcoming environment for all but I think when you do this by way of fear (of getting banned) you just create disdain for the org and its rules while encouraging others to use your system for spite. Whether or not certain behavior is acceptable by a community is a reflection of society's views at large. Over the years they HAVE been getting less hostile towards all minorities but you need to let it go at its own pace. When someone goes around saying something commonly considered a terrible slur the community at large will not want to associate with them and they'll eventually end up exiled, for lack of a better term. Until then, overpolicing is not going to accelerate this process. "Tolerance" is often touted as a very positive term but it's actually pretty trash compared to "Acceptance". Anyway this is just my opinion and I obviously lean towards letting people say whatever they want and then suffering the fallout from it naturally. I can type a lot more about this but I'll save it.
'24' here is calling us out for suddenly denying their ringer 10 minutes after the start time or whatever and accusing us of bad sportsmanship. First of all most of the delay to start the game was literally because we were sorting out the ringer situation with you, not springing it on you 10 minutes after 1030pm. We got into the server and a couple of people go "wait a sec, is that Owib?". And it was. There were a couple of "whatever's" but a bunch of us decided that we'd rather not play against this player who's got $$ winnings from last season in Advanced and was then still rostered on an Advanced team. IMO he doesn't belong in this div. Shoutout to him, he's really very good! There are also some other players on other teams that I feel don't belong in the div but it's not my place to challenge that. But when it's my team about to play right then and there, YES, that IS a good time to challenge this type of thing. So I double checked by messaging an admin and it eventually came back that he's only allowed to play medic. You can make the distinction all you want between a ringer and someone rostered on your team but I don't see him rostered on your team now which tells me that the same admin ruling applies to actual rostering and not just ringing him. We were not trying to sleaze you out of a fair game or collect an easy win. From our POV it's YOUR bad sportsmanship for trying to roster and pound us with an Advanced player. I don't recall us denying anyone else but I do remember saying something like "Can't you guys find, ya know, a MAIN player for this match between our MAIN teams?" You said that we were the ones bm'ing you and being rude. No actually it's more the other way. We were dry and straightforward about what our issues were and you were the ones getting pissy, though it's understandable due to the circumstances. Some pretty rude stuff was said by you guys, mostly before the game as I recall, and one last colorful zinger after the game by your main medic.
Yeah it's mostly bullshit that you can do this in this league and part of my intent was to pass some of the grief on that was done onto my team. Except here it was in a match and with context. But most importantly I felt fine reporting because you guys were being pricks. I can say plainly that I'm not too offended--mostly because I don't offend easily--but what you said is very distasteful. The word Jew is not inherently offensive but using a name of a minority as a verb is kinda bad. Try it yourself with any other such term. If it were possible to actually quantify my level of offense would it really make a difference in whether this was justified? I am Semitic. I have been bullied before with people using anti-semitic remarks. I'm 99.9% sure they didn't actually hate Jews but were just saying whatever the most shocking and hurtful things they could think of were. Does that make it not offensive? My sister actually had the shit beaten out of her numerous times as a teen and called really bad slurs (in Russia, she was born in 1971). There's more troubled history the further back you go with parents and grandparents, etc. Does any of this stuff even matter? I realize I'm playing both sides of the court at once here. RGL is way overzealous with enforcement of this stuff and I'd like to see this change (but I'm not holding my breath) but at the same time I'm not sorry for reporting this because you guys were being twats.
[quote=JaguarFiend]Shameful display, vanta. Straight up bullshit. I never thought I'd say it but here is actual "Fake News". Our match against Sorrow's Soldiers was on 02/25/20.
https://i.imgur.com/Bx3GpxC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8PzGauq.jpg
Here's that same dialogue from Discord with the date on (1/27/20). I guess you took a screenshot of this right as it was said? I really don't recall this being at 11:53am but I guess it was? What the fuck is wrong with you man? The obvious thing is that these words are about something that happened way earlier and are not about this current drama. Someone said some nasty stuff to me. It wasn't that serious and it didn't amount to anything. You see the word underlined in orange? That word was used a lot in the text above and below this -sarcastically- because that's what got golden banned. He jokingly changed his steam name to that for 10 seconds before a SCRIM in my PRIVATE server in a PRIVATE game between two teams that has basically nothing to do with RGL and our whole team got derailed by this. And based on some inside information it seems like this was done "for the lulz". No one was offended by anything. It was not aimed at anyone and there was no context for it whatsoever.
There's definitely a huge policing overreach problem with RGL. That's probably the league's biggest flaw that everyone is currently struggling with. The intentions may be good but the implementation is utterly flawed. Currently the system can simply be weaponized by teams against other teams to take out the competition outside of the game. Soon after the golden incident we had our match with the team that reported him and, go figure, we lost without our best player. RGL's noble goal is to avoid alienating anyone and removing hate speech and being a welcoming environment for all but I think when you do this by way of fear (of getting banned) you just create disdain for the org and its rules while encouraging others to use your system for spite. Whether or not certain behavior is acceptable by a community is a reflection of society's views at large. Over the years they HAVE been getting less hostile towards all minorities but you need to let it go at its own pace. When someone goes around saying something commonly considered a terrible slur the community at large will not want to associate with them and they'll eventually end up exiled, for lack of a better term. Until then, overpolicing is not going to accelerate this process. "Tolerance" is often touted as a very positive term but it's actually pretty trash compared to "Acceptance". Anyway this is just my opinion and I obviously lean towards letting people say whatever they want and then suffering the fallout from it naturally. I can type a lot more about this but I'll save it.
'24' here is calling us out for suddenly denying their ringer 10 minutes after the start time or whatever and accusing us of bad sportsmanship. First of all most of the delay to start the game was literally because we were sorting out the ringer situation with you, not springing it on you 10 minutes after 1030pm. We got into the server and a couple of people go "wait a sec, is that Owib?". And it was. There were a couple of "whatever's" but a bunch of us decided that we'd rather not play against this player who's got $$ winnings from last season in Advanced and was then still rostered on an Advanced team. IMO he doesn't belong in this div. Shoutout to him, he's really very good! There are also some other players on other teams that I feel don't belong in the div but it's not my place to challenge that. But when it's my team about to play right then and there, YES, that IS a good time to challenge this type of thing. So I double checked by messaging an admin and it eventually came back that he's only allowed to play medic. You can make the distinction all you want between a ringer and someone rostered on your team but I don't see him rostered on your team now which tells me that the same admin ruling applies to actual rostering and not just ringing him. We were not trying to sleaze you out of a fair game or collect an easy win. From our POV it's YOUR bad sportsmanship for trying to roster and pound us with an Advanced player. I don't recall us denying anyone else but I do remember saying something like "Can't you guys find, ya know, a MAIN player for this match between our MAIN teams?" You said that we were the ones bm'ing you and being rude. No actually it's more the other way. We were dry and straightforward about what our issues were and you were the ones getting pissy, though it's understandable due to the circumstances. Some pretty rude stuff was said by you guys, mostly before the game as I recall, and one last colorful zinger after the game by your main medic.
Yeah it's mostly bullshit that you can do this in this league and part of my intent was to pass some of the grief on that was done onto my team. Except here it was in a match and with context. But most importantly I felt fine reporting because you guys were being pricks. I can say plainly that I'm not too offended--mostly because I don't offend easily--but what you said is very distasteful. The word Jew is not inherently offensive but using a name of a minority as a verb is kinda bad. Try it yourself with any other such term. If it were possible to actually quantify my level of offense would it really make a difference in whether this was justified? I am Semitic. I have been bullied before with people using anti-semitic remarks. I'm 99.9% sure they didn't actually hate Jews but were just saying whatever the most shocking and hurtful things they could think of were. Does that make it not offensive? My sister actually had the shit beaten out of her numerous times as a teen and called really bad slurs (in Russia, she was born in 1971). There's more troubled history the further back you go with parents and grandparents, etc. Does any of this stuff even matter? I realize I'm playing both sides of the court at once here. RGL is way overzealous with enforcement of this stuff and I'd like to see this change (but I'm not holding my breath) but at the same time I'm not sorry for reporting this because you guys were being twats.[/quote]
https://imgur.com/YkPbLYY
https://i.imgur.com/Bx3GpxC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8PzGauq.jpg
Here's that same dialogue from Discord with the date on (1/27/20). I guess you took a screenshot of this right as it was said? I really don't recall this being at 11:53am but I guess it was? What the fuck is wrong with you man? The obvious thing is that these words are about something that happened way earlier and are not about this current drama. Someone said some nasty stuff to me. It wasn't that serious and it didn't amount to anything. You see the word underlined in orange? That word was used a lot in the text above and below this -sarcastically- because that's what got golden banned. He jokingly changed his steam name to that for 10 seconds before a SCRIM in my PRIVATE server in a PRIVATE game between two teams that has basically nothing to do with RGL and our whole team got derailed by this. And based on some inside information it seems like this was done "for the lulz". No one was offended by anything. It was not aimed at anyone and there was no context for it whatsoever.
There's definitely a huge policing overreach problem with RGL. That's probably the league's biggest flaw that everyone is currently struggling with. The intentions may be good but the implementation is utterly flawed. Currently the system can simply be weaponized by teams against other teams to take out the competition outside of the game. Soon after the golden incident we had our match with the team that reported him and, go figure, we lost without our best player. RGL's noble goal is to avoid alienating anyone and removing hate speech and being a welcoming environment for all but I think when you do this by way of fear (of getting banned) you just create disdain for the org and its rules while encouraging others to use your system for spite. Whether or not certain behavior is acceptable by a community is a reflection of society's views at large. Over the years they HAVE been getting less hostile towards all minorities but you need to let it go at its own pace. When someone goes around saying something commonly considered a terrible slur the community at large will not want to associate with them and they'll eventually end up exiled, for lack of a better term. Until then, overpolicing is not going to accelerate this process. "Tolerance" is often touted as a very positive term but it's actually pretty trash compared to "Acceptance". Anyway this is just my opinion and I obviously lean towards letting people say whatever they want and then suffering the fallout from it naturally. I can type a lot more about this but I'll save it.
'24' here is calling us out for suddenly denying their ringer 10 minutes after the start time or whatever and accusing us of bad sportsmanship. First of all most of the delay to start the game was literally because we were sorting out the ringer situation with you, not springing it on you 10 minutes after 1030pm. We got into the server and a couple of people go "wait a sec, is that Owib?". And it was. There were a couple of "whatever's" but a bunch of us decided that we'd rather not play against this player who's got $$ winnings from last season in Advanced and was then still rostered on an Advanced team. IMO he doesn't belong in this div. Shoutout to him, he's really very good! There are also some other players on other teams that I feel don't belong in the div but it's not my place to challenge that. But when it's my team about to play right then and there, YES, that IS a good time to challenge this type of thing. So I double checked by messaging an admin and it eventually came back that he's only allowed to play medic. You can make the distinction all you want between a ringer and someone rostered on your team but I don't see him rostered on your team now which tells me that the same admin ruling applies to actual rostering and not just ringing him. We were not trying to sleaze you out of a fair game or collect an easy win. From our POV it's YOUR bad sportsmanship for trying to roster and pound us with an Advanced player. I don't recall us denying anyone else but I do remember saying something like "Can't you guys find, ya know, a MAIN player for this match between our MAIN teams?" You said that we were the ones bm'ing you and being rude. No actually it's more the other way. We were dry and straightforward about what our issues were and you were the ones getting pissy, though it's understandable due to the circumstances. Some pretty rude stuff was said by you guys, mostly before the game as I recall, and one last colorful zinger after the game by your main medic.
Yeah it's mostly bullshit that you can do this in this league and part of my intent was to pass some of the grief on that was done onto my team. Except here it was in a match and with context. But most importantly I felt fine reporting because you guys were being pricks. I can say plainly that I'm not too offended--mostly because I don't offend easily--but what you said is very distasteful. The word Jew is not inherently offensive but using a name of a minority as a verb is kinda bad. Try it yourself with any other such term. If it were possible to actually quantify my level of offense would it really make a difference in whether this was justified? I am Semitic. I have been bullied before with people using anti-semitic remarks. I'm 99.9% sure they didn't actually hate Jews but were just saying whatever the most shocking and hurtful things they could think of were. Does that make it not offensive? My sister actually had the shit beaten out of her numerous times as a teen and called really bad slurs (in Russia, she was born in 1971). There's more troubled history the further back you go with parents and grandparents, etc. Does any of this stuff even matter? I realize I'm playing both sides of the court at once here. RGL is way overzealous with enforcement of this stuff and I'd like to see this change (but I'm not holding my breath) but at the same time I'm not sorry for reporting this because you guys were being twats.[/quote]
https://imgur.com/YkPbLYY
Aight jag, I wasn't gonna post anything, but you got me this time. Good job.
If what ghad said really upset you, then I would still advocate for you considering the possibility of being the bigger person and either talking to him directly to tell him that that's not cool with you, or just trying to stop the cycle of shittiness at your own door by just letting it go.
Oh wait. It didn't upset you. You instead say that "part of my intent was to pass some of the grief on[sic] that was done to my team." And you decided to do so by making use of rgl's "huge policing overreach problem" with "utterly flawed implementation" that YOUR YOURSELF WISH WASN'T A PROBLEM FOR YOUR OWN TEAM. Now, I don't remember any of us reporting your players, so it's not revenge either, even though that's ALSO a shitty motivation. No, you just got hurt before, so now you want to hurt other people in the same way. Spectacular.
I remembered having a good time sitting 2 seats away from you at RGB 2, when I was still low open and you were playing at the exact same level of tf2 that you are now. I really hate that that positive memory has to be ruined by something so fucking childish. Yeah, ghad made a poor decision after being needled in chat for no less than 45 minutes. But you also had the opportunity to prove that you were the bigger person no less than 4 times during our match, and didn't take a single one of those opportunities. I really miss playing with and against people I could call my friends in this game, but there are fewer and fewer of those people playing every season. I can't help but feel that shit like this is a contributing factor, and it makes me legitimately fucking sad.
Like I said in the main thread, ggs. It's been fun.
Aight jag, I wasn't gonna post anything, but you got me this time. Good job.
If what ghad said really upset you, then I would still advocate for you considering the possibility of being the bigger person and either talking to him directly to tell him that that's not cool with you, or just trying to stop the cycle of shittiness at your own door by just letting it go.
Oh wait. It didn't upset you. You instead say that "part of my intent was to pass some of the grief on[sic] that was done to my team." And you decided to do so by making use of rgl's "huge policing overreach problem" with "utterly flawed implementation" that YOUR YOURSELF WISH WASN'T A PROBLEM FOR YOUR OWN TEAM. Now, I don't remember any of us reporting your players, so it's not revenge either, even though that's ALSO a shitty motivation. No, you just got hurt before, so now you want to hurt other people in the same way. Spectacular.
I remembered having a good time sitting 2 seats away from you at RGB 2, when I was still low open and you were playing at the exact same level of tf2 that you are now. I really hate that that positive memory has to be ruined by something so fucking childish. Yeah, ghad made a poor decision after being needled in chat for no less than 45 minutes. But you also had the opportunity to prove that you were the bigger person no less than 4 times during our match, and didn't take a single one of those opportunities. I really miss playing with and against people I could call my friends in this game, but there are fewer and fewer of those people playing every season. I can't help but feel that shit like this is a contributing factor, and it makes me legitimately fucking sad.
Like I said in the main thread, ggs. It's been fun.
http://puu.sh/FgaDc/9fb9ec1938.jpg
If what ghad said really upset you, then I would still advocate for you considering the possibility of being the bigger person and either talking to him directly to tell him that that's not cool with you, or just trying to stop the cycle of shittiness at your own door by just letting it go.
Oh wait. It didn't upset you. You instead say that "part of my intent was to pass some of the grief on[sic] that was done to my team." And you decided to do so by making use of rgl's "huge policing overreach problem" with "utterly flawed implementation" that YOUR YOURSELF WISH WASN'T A PROBLEM FOR YOUR OWN TEAM. Now, I don't remember any of us reporting your players, so it's not revenge either, even though that's ALSO a shitty motivation. No, you just got hurt before, so now you want to hurt other people in the same way. Spectacular.
I remembered having a good time sitting 2 seats away from you at RGB 2, when I was still low open and you were playing at the exact same level of tf2 that you are now. I really hate that that positive memory has to be ruined by something so fucking childish. Yeah, ghad made a poor decision after being needled in chat for no less than 45 minutes. But you also had the opportunity to prove that you were the bigger person no less than 4 times during our match, and didn't take a single one of those opportunities. I really miss playing with and against people I could call my friends in this game, but there are fewer and fewer of those people playing every season. I can't help but feel that shit like this is a contributing factor, and it makes me legitimately fucking sad.
Like I said in the main thread, ggs. It's been fun.
http://puu.sh/FgaDc/9fb9ec1938.jpg
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