okay so, let me get this straight here. Murder statistics are now irrelevant because cops aren't actually killing black people when they interact, I thought that was supposed to be my point?

If you want to argue against me, shouldn't you first, respond to, I don't know any one of the statistics that I posted, clearly indicating lack of evidence supporting the reasons behind the protests first, before asking me to address different issues that weren't being discussed before? Obviously you won't do that, and if you do you will just point to mitigating factors instead of fact checking the data, like you would be doing vehemently if they in any way actually supported what you were saying.

I guess I will just continue to be the only one not talking to a wall and address your concern of black arrests. In 2018 there were nearly 500 black people shot, almost all by other blacks, in Chicago, this is incredibly concerning due to small area in which these shootings happen, and how many mass shootings there were. What's more concerning is that police only caught 1 out of 20 of the shooters https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-chicago-violence-clearance-rate-20180807-story.html

I don't want to seem like a racist by denying that there is cause for concern for police brutality. But if you were legitimately concerned about the well being of black people in your country, there are far greater issues that most people are afraid to discuss. By ignoring things like this and calling for protest, you are inciting further chaos in the communities that you claim to care about, and systematically ignoring/repressing the real issues plaguing these people you stupid fucks

I mean the fact that people are trying to take sides is the exact reason shit like this happens in the first place lol,

too much fingerpointing and blaming looking for a scapegoat instead of actually getting the shit needed to fix the so called "greatest country in the planet".

But that's just america on like 99% of issues i've seen so get used to it, guarantee something similar happens within the next year or 2, maybe not forcing country-wide riots but guarantee this exact same scenario where a cop kills someone because they don't need to pass an IQ test to get a gun and a badge and are brought up with the mentality of fuck you pay me where they think they're better than everyone else because everything is pushing towards that exact ideology in america, how much better can you be than the next guy.

Labelling it as racism or facist or whatever the fuck you wanna label it isn't gonna change anything, you're just pointing it out, it's the same as the people that change their profile pic to a flag when a terrorist attack happens, it's a nice gesture but reality is that does absolutely fuck all lol.

Assholes are always gonna exist, remember Kelly Thomas? white schizophrenic guy who got murdered by 6 cop whilst screaming for his father to help him? don't see many people bringing that up ITT.

i’ve been to a protest, it was peaceful until riot police showed up for quite literally no real reason other than there was a crowd standing and chanting. it also really cute u think more than even a quarter of the buildings in LA are black owned. Also burning it “all” down is not in reference to the actual cities, he quite obv talking about the system lol
but ya I say shit like that bcus cops either do not follow orders or they were ordered to use “less than lethal” bullets aimed at people’s eyes. the amount of ppl ik who got shot in the BACK while following orders.. like nothing u can say will convince me cops aren’t bastards, sorry
also nice edit on the other points u made rickrigaPhony

also property is replaceable, people's lives are not. Businesses in my city were basically saying "if y'all have to smash our shit to start the revolution, go for it"

black people are disproportionately affected by police violence in this country and that's why it's #blacklivesmatter and not #brownlivesmatter or #asianlivesmatter or w/e

woaahhh tambo made the point he’s been trying to make this whole time in words that aren’t cryptic and racist sounding ? Let’s Go

but I ALMOST whole heartedly agree, to act like rioting is not necessary to have demands met is silly
they’d rather arrest 1000s of protesters than 3 cops, that should show in itself how drastic things will need to get before we start to actually see a movement towards reform

https://twitter.com/lucasenystrom/status/1267755065005215747?s=21
but come on people you’re actually going to defend shit like this? like idc if that guy was poking the bear with what he was doing, that was NOT warranted. That cop most likely won’t be charged or fired, and everyone standing around him just watched it happen and went about their shift like they aren’t apart of something sinister ??
https://twitter.com/nickhamiltonla/status/1268023885665992704?s=21
?????? these r from 2 minutes of scrolling on twitter, I can scroll for another 2 and find more links if ur not convinced that a lot of these people should not be allowed to be police officers
https://twitter.com/vuhlandes/status/1267987776080936962?s=21 if you think rioting isn’t warranted over shit like this happening every day i have 0 respect for you

anyone else smoke meth here

This is not a shitpost, I have never cared more about a topic on tftv or any online discussion. I spent hours trying to thoroughly explain my viewpoints and address every counterpoint, because I legitimately cannot stand watching idly by while my country is gas lit and destroyed by propaganda.

tambo you cannot get through to commie 20 y/o tf2 players with no life (experience) or are canadians, this is a userbase of porn addicts and a herd mentality of many self-marginalized groups that attack any wrongthink that does not fit their safe space's bubble

Alright, so at the risk of Taking The Bait, this is straight up disproven just through readily available, easily interpretable statistics:
1. White people and black people smoke weed at approximately the same rate
2. There are WAY, WAY, WAY more black people in jail for smoking than there are white

But I imagine statistics don't mean much to you, so I will let you look those up yourself if you wish, and offer a personal anecdote instead:

I was in high school, senior year. I had just started smoking weed, and one of my favorite pasttimes was to drive around, find a quiet spot, smoke a bowl, and move on. My first car was a blue 1983 Cadillac Seville; a classic gangster-esque car, suspension like a cloud, cigarette lighter in every seat... the lap of 1983 America's idea of luxury. Me and my friends turned it into a pseudo-game, finding weird new spots to smoke and then trying not to get lost on the way home. I learned a lot about the layout of Indianapolis this way.

Point is, it was inevitable that being dumbass highschool kids driving around a fucking hood ass Cadillac with smoke pouring out the windows, we drew the attention of the cops a few times, and the only time we even came close to getting in trouble was when I had black friends with me. It was me in the driver's seat, my white friend on the passenger side, and 3 black friends taking up the bench of a back seat. One of the kids in the back said he liked to smoke at this spot behind a liquor store, so we pull up to light our first bowl. I'm a lazy stoner, and to this day I've never learned how to roll a joint, being that it's faster and honestly more weed-efficient to just pack a bowl. But my beauty of a caddy had 4 cigar lighters that we wanted to make use of, so my friend in the front seat offers to roll one up.

No sooner does he start twisting it together than we are blinded by a spotlight, and with my eyes closed can I see red and blue lights mingling with the bright white along my eyelids.

Oh fuck.

We sit there, lights in our eyes, for a good 10 minutes. Of course it feels like a year, all of us imagining that our lives are over. My white friend riding shotgun has tucked the incomplete joint into his sock, and pulled my backpack full of shit underneath his legs. And then 4 more cop cars roll up, for a total of five cars to deal with one full of scared, baked highschool kids. Finally, one officer comes up to the passenger window, one to the drivers side, and they start grilling me. Classic stuff, "what are you guys doing out here tonight, how long have you been sitting here, license and registration please." I don't remember what I said anymore, outside of the bootlicking "yes sir, no sir, just needed to stop for a sec to figure out where we are, sir" kind of bullshit. After a few minutes of this, they walk away, confer among themselves for a few more minutes, and then proceed to pull everyone out of the back seat. They spent upwards of 15 minutes thoroughly searching them, and thank God, finding nothing, since me and my white friend were carrying all the goods.

This story is getting long, but I can't stress enough how much time this took. They did patdowns, searched pockets, took off their fucking shoes, and apparently asked them some much more searching questions outside earshot of the car. But, finding nothing, they eventually put all my friends back where they belonged, gave my hood a good slap, and told me to be on my way.

What the fuck? I know they could smell the weed. I'm fairly certain they saw the backpack my other friend was so nervously hiding in plain sight. But because my other friends were black, these cops were much more interested in getting them in trouble than us. If we had let one of the kids in the back roll up, or if we had passed the joint back that way, or if the cops had bothered to search either of us idiots in the front seat, who knows what would have happened? But, luckily for us, they were racist Indy cops, and the only explanation I can think of for their behavior is that some of us were nerdy white kids instead of nerdy black ones.

We got lucky. Most people, just going by those aforementioned readily available stats, (you can start here by the way!) do not. The idea that cops let black people off more than whites is totally unsupported bullshit.

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going off what u usually post I’m pretty sure ur life experience consists of cheetos and basement

but not to derail anymore than I already have, I think tambo does have a point now that he’s spit it out in a way that it doesn’t just seem like he’s shrugging off a very very real issue. I do think it is something to be thought about but I also feel like now is not the time to be like “we should protest how under funded black communities are (or whatever else) instead of this! that’s the real issue!” bcus even tho there’s truth to ur sentiment, the relevant issue is racism in the police force, and abuse of power. so instead of trying to poison people with “Well actually Cops Aren’t AS RACIST as Social Media May Have you Believe.” Read more About the REAL PROBLEMS !!” because presenting ur point like that just makes u seem like a facebook user and is harmful to a very important and real movement.
This my LastPost For Today I Promise

if anyone actually watched the video or part of it, the clips are disgusting. Getting ganged up on by a group of 10 or more people for trying to defend your store and life is disgusting. I do hope they are all punished dearly for it.

https://twitter.com/sable_sonya/status/1267148333203800064
guessing this is who ur referring to

u really just threw a bunch of buzzwords together and thought it was a coherent point

moron proving his point

Can an american explain to me why your social fabric is such a dumpster fire (or not)? I've had this impression for as long as i can remember. Probably because whenever I see american politics it's usually full of badmouthing and demonizing people.

What leads you to think these things? If this is representative of the mainstream then it shows how little trust and goodwill is left in your society. I cannot imagine people thinking or behaving like that over here.

And this is coming from one of the most politically divided countries in the world ( 589 days without a government world record) . We're also well on our way to break that at the moment. But in spite of that people generally trust each-other, have goodwill and things are stable.

The USA instead seems like a dystopian madland from where I'm looking.

I decided to take a concerta n protest on no sleep today so I’m still posting but ^
at least what I believe is everyone below the top 30% or something of the corporate ladder is getting absolutely fucking robbed for what they’re doing. I guess I really don’t know what goes into being a CEO of Target but I imagine ur just born into a shit ton of money and ur dad knows a guy or something, meanwhile my manager there was a 55 year old woman who wasn’t gonna get to retire for another 10 years doing more manual ass labor for 55 hours a week. it’s actually fucked.
So that CEO can afford to build a new Target I’m sure, he’s probably running the numbers on a yacht right now while he’s never lifted a box in his life. I really hope anyone who has been discriminated against that had the opportunity took it bcus I promise target will not miss the 50k loss in items that got stolen, I’m almost positive (building a whole new target might fuck up the quarterly for that region but FUCK em). Meanwhile that xbox and tv someone stole might’ve just paid their rent next month which they didn’t have figured out bcus they didn’t qualify for unemployment due to some bullshit American hoop he failed to jump thru

super biased opinion here tho I shoplift a Lot bcus fuck a corperation

https://twitter.com/ad0rebel/status/1267651748077895680?s=21 but ya shit like this circulates on social media REALLY fast so I’d say the youth have an absolute distrust for anything and everything US gov these days.

https://i.imgur.com/1mRZ34k.png

https://twitter.com/brutumf/status/1267575655509577728?s=21

YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP DUDE

my man here built the worlds biggest straw man in an attempt to discredit literally all dissent and you're actually falling for it lmao

why would anybody seriously engage with a police thread posted by known hater of jewish people tambo

Stop treating black people like children, they can have internal problems as a race that are cultural in nature without you making excuses for them. Every single day I see "news" and other white people tell me I need to address the privilege ever present in the white community, do you honestly not expect black people to be capable of the same self-reflection? Yes black communities are underfunded, yes they are underprivileged, the way to stop that is to come together in their community, stop getting fucking lied to by the media for 5 fucking seconds, and deal with the things that have actually been causing their problems. Like the direct correlation between all children being more likely to fall into crime without a father present, and the levels of fatherhood being the lowest in poor black areas. Let me clue you in on just how much more beneficial it is socially, and economically to strengthen the familial power of the impoverished rather than burn the city in which they live tojo. A lot. Even though the problem doesn't necessarily pertain to this, I see the trend of white people committing incredibly higher rates of suicide, not only at home but reflected in the data as well. Perhaps I am racist for believing that my and other people(s) should be focused on legitimate problems regarding life and death, instead of falsified privilege? Racial tensions being high should be a signal that we need to address problems that are difficult to discuss, and the media will stop at nothing from preventing you from having those conversations because they profit during chaos.

damn maybe your brother can talk to some of the undercovers and ask them to stop putting out bricks to be thrown at him?

at least the catharsis of causing serious damage with projectiles fired out of a weapon at oppressed people gave him some relief, God Bless

u know it would be a lot easier to address those problems if morons like u would stop screeching "all lives matter" whenever a black person gets murdered by cops

Here's a fun link if you actually want to talk about bias in media.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/

A black drug user and white one are not interchangeable for several reasons. First, any study on self-reported drug will underreport black use because blacks often underreport their use. This is also true of self-reported criminal history. Source for image is the Handbook of Criminal Correlates by Wright, Beaver et. all. With that in mind, blacks are more likely to engage in drug-related behaviors that put them at risk of of being arrested. To buy outdoors, from a stranger, or to buy and use in an unknown area. They use more frequently, they use more dangerous drugs, and they use in high-crime areas.

I believe this explains the entire or at least the vast majority of difference between white and black drug offenders. Regardless, the point is that comparing the two is inappropriate, and inequality of outcome is not proof of discrimination.

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He's clearly resisting arrest, weird how often this is completely ignored and accepted
Also apparently he punched a cop? The video starts recording at a very convienient time

Oh wow that's convienient! I can just listen to someone clearly smarter than me tell me what to read based on arbitrary measurements instead of deciding for myself! Thank god for such people.

Also it's insulting how they juxtapose pro-science with conspiracy theory. If one thing was common to both the right and the left it's that epstein didn't kill himself. Conspiracy theories don't go against science and everyone who says otherwise is a bootlicking dog.