I'm gonna second this. I used to love pubbing and I still manage to enjoy it sometimes but it's nothing like it used to be. I used to blame it on the staggering incompetency of pub players but I've since decided that it's not really their fault. Most pub players have never been given motivation to expand and experiment with new weapons and tactics because the game is never fucking updated. There's never any changes to weapons even though more than half of them are pretty much useless and therefore never used. And instead of doing that we get stuff like new taunts and the BASE Jumper which just further encourages the average pubbers apathy to the objectives.

Probably the only time I've truly been pissed at Valve was when I heard Robin Walker say he wanted to see more innovation in comp. How the hell can you demand innovation when nothing ever gets changed? It's not like it requires entire new mechanics, and they don't even have to think of the ideas themselves. I don't see what they have to lose. If a weapon sucks oh well, it sure won't be the first one and definitely won't be the last. One of the best ideas I ever heard was giving the Liberty Launcher increased knockback in exchange for 3 rockets. It's an airshot machine. That's like the funnest thing I've ever heard of.

anyways ya pubs kinda suck now

The MaCHinE. My first exposure to somewhat organized organized TF2. It was pretty amazing to play on a server where everyone was trying and working together.

oh ya i forgot about the infinite ammo thing

I didn't think it was an experiment, I thought it was just to demonstrate why we have the restrictions that we do. It wasn't really fun to watch from a competitive perspective. Fun for messing around though.

Also weapons like the LL and CM5K are still banned because nobody cares enough to unban them. Neither of them will see any serious use in competitive play. I mean we probably should unban them just to show that that's the real reason they're never used but it's pretty much just symbolic.

Every spy unlock except for the enforcer and spycicle is legal. Spy has very limited use in 6s

They test whitelists on tf2pickup.

Euros are so much more organized than we are :(

I don't see anything wrong with embracing the cartoony-ness of the game. We aren't CS or Quake why should we pretend to be?

Perfect

To Jon: Are you gonna talk to the TF2c guys about this? I think they were trying to work on something similar

these are so goddam cool

Very pretty. Can't wait to see how last plays

i thought this was a joke about that south park episode when i saw the embedded clip

I just read 3 full pages of pubbers arguing about what the spawn is.

im gonna go lie down

Can't say I blame him. Hope he comes back and shows us whatever he's working on.

More than anything with Valve it's the lack of communication that gets me. I understand arguments against some of the things we've lobbied for but for Valve to completely shut us out is pretty upsetting. I always kinda figured Valve's m.o. was community collaboration but that just doesn't seem to apply here.

I thought I had a bunch of these but now I realize I only take screenshots of 3+ engineers next to each other.

Dang that's pretty. Has the labyrinth been bulldozed though?

I heard a rumor tf2center was working on something like that. I have no idea how they plan to pull a bunch of higher level players to it though