Ok maybe I shouldnt be blaming nameless but the other teams for not figuring out how to counter this. If the other teams can figure out how to counter it, nameless have to change their playstyle.

I apologize if I upset anyone.

I'm not even saying that the reason we lost against them is because how slow they play (they are the better team and thats why they beat us) only thing that I was saying is how they play and how they could maybe change it up.

Tbh there should be more koth maps they are way more fun to play and no stalemates.

Maybe next season i'll be in a team that is full of players that actually want to win and got the motivation to do it. (Hint: there might be a new team coming) I'm just hoping it doesnt turn into a flop and/or its actually going to happen :D.

At the start of the season we actually tried some stuff to beat nameless, schocky planned out a lot of strats on tactics.tf but half of the team didnt really do them so he gave up on that, we even played the slow game one time and it was something like 0-0 score 30 min and I went spy like 15 times, very fun tbh.

And my team wasnt patience enough to hold and try stuff so we just went in to try stuff.

I actually try to win a lot but when we start making weird plays I just cant play serious anymore.

edit: "And my team wasnt patience enough to hold and try stuff so we just went in to try stuff." this doenst make any sense let me reword that lol. What I mean is we didnt want to hold and make some plays in order to break the stalemate we just wanted to go "yolo" it and hope for the best.

edit2: We also didnt have a maincaller so there was no chance of us actually doing strats lmao
We played with honey yesterday and we came close to drawing/beating nameless because honey calls where just really good even though he never played with us before.

When im about to cap last and win someone leaves and I dont get elo....

In the end this is just all my opinion in how to try to fix this slow gamestyle. Doesnt mean its the right thing.

It doesnt work out because nameless knows how to counter it all already, thats why they are the ones who should try to do something new.

You could try some sort of strat and kill the flank or something, If I would know how to do break the stalemate I would have told you :D, thats what im saying you should try something to break the stalemate instead of just holding.

And no don't do that in an official just in scrims, untill you figure out you can do it consistently.

Yes but other things might work, you just never tried them, you are only trying to perfect this slow playstyle...

I'm not saying its your fault nobody can counter it yet, but I am blaming you for not trying to change your playstyle, I know you want to win but are you guys having fun sitting in a choke for 30 min spamming?

Im blaming them for what? Being the reason that everyone plays so slow?
Yes I am blaming them for that because like I said in my previous post... Nobody knows how to deal with it yet so they just have to play the same slow and boring game.

"for being the better team at adjusting to the opponent"
They just know how to counter every push, doesnt matter who the opponent is.

I also know for a fact full tilt doesnt want to play like this they are just forced to if they dont want to lose.

I am definitely not a full tilt fanboy lol but the reason they also play this passive is if they dont they will just lose, thats why they go sniper 24/7. It's almost impossible to try other things vs nameless because they always know a way to counter it.

Yes it works, doesnt mean other playstyles wont work, its just that you have been doing the slow playstyle with "the same" team for a couple of season and barely make mistakes in it. Every other team doesnt know how to do that yet or how to counter it effectively. Yes you are gonna say "Why should we change it then?"
Idk, could be more fun if you tried something else for once.

once upon a time people did 300 da/m, now all i see is this shit boring games 1-0 score 100da/m and you are saying we are the retards? lmao