miloi hope they fire you after they drop tf2
What's gonna happen when we don't drop tf2 though.
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miloi hope they fire you after they drop tf2
What's gonna happen when we don't drop tf2 though.
PsychotropicKillingLKincheloeI don't think anybody is saying YOU don't care Killing. It's more that your superiors don't seem to show the same appreciation for TF2 that you show.
Tell me why you think they don't care. You think ESEA is all about money right? I haven't lost a dime on ESEA for the entire 4 years. Them on the other hand haven't made a dime.
How can you think they are only about money when they don't make any?
Why are they supporting tf2 if they aren't making any money off of it?
Sorry but I just don't see the point of incentivizing a customer base that loses your business money.
IT'S NEVER BEEN ABOUT THE MONEY. That's why but nobody seems to get that.
BurnDLI'm glad you care. Too bad its too late.
Never too late. As long as I work harder and put more hours in, I'm gonna get there.
LKincheloeI don't think anybody is saying YOU don't care Killing. It's more that your superiors don't seem to show the same appreciation for TF2 that you show.
Tell me why you think they don't care. You think ESEA is all about money right? I haven't lost a dime on ESEA for the entire 4 years. Them on the other hand haven't made a dime.
How can you think they are only about money when they don't make any?
kaceCan we get more servers for tf2 that don't lag so that we aren't forced to play on weekends?
I want people to submit tickets with demos attached detailing when they lagged.
Was it through the whole match?
Only at 1 point?
Your whole team or just you?
Unfortunately, I can't fix these issues myself but if I can get you guys to give information to the people that can then I'm p sure we can fix it.
Alright boys, we're at DEFCON 1. Here is what I've decided to propose. EVERY open team that decides to play in ESEA will receive:
- 2 3 month freemium codes
- 2 1 month freemium codes
I suppose desperate times call for desperate measures. After the season is confirmed (after reg closes), all the codes will go out. All league fees will be refunded if the season is cancelled so you don't need to worry about that. I just want to use this post as a bit of a soapbox to address some issues. After reading through that gigantic thread, it seems one of the main things that people say is that "ESEA doesn't care". I don't know how to feel about that. Whenever we bring up the argument that we've never made a dime on TF2 and lost thousands of dollars, people don't want to hear it. They just retort with "ESEA is all about the money".
I really don't want to see it go. Four years of handwork down the drain will probably be brutal to look at. On top of that, I really have felt like the future has never been brighter. I know that shit is cheesy but:
-8 of 10 invite teams are alive. Holy shit didn't know that was possible.
-Stability in Main and IM has increased tenfold.
-There's a new client team that I feel I can actually rely on. There hasn't been a single issue since the first week of matches. If people start submitting their client logs when they have issues, they CAN FIX IT. I swear, seen it with my own eyes.
-650k is on the line if they ever fuck up again. Not a mistake I think they'll make.
-BEST LAN ever.
So, on top of this post. I want to know how to show you guys that we care. I mean, I know I care. You guys don't think I do, but I do. I know Craig cares. I know many many people in ESEA cares. Even lpkane cares. None of you will believe it, but he actually does. But you guys don't seem to believe it. I want to know after all the money lost and hours spent, what makes you think we don't care. If I didn't care, I wouldn't be here.
I started reading it at the top. I think I ruined the experience.
london_callingThere will be an extension on the registration date, there always is. Open will fill up even before the end of this registration period. All of this desperate pleading of these players is unattractive, and if you have played in ESEA long enough you'll know that whats going on is still pretty typical of what is absolutely normal for ESEA.
If you wanted people to respect the deadlines more and be in a rush to get their rosters and get 6 paid, then maybe its a good idea to be more transparent with extensions and exceptions. Also, I don't think the number of rosters in CEVO (77 as of now) is a good portrait of how many teams are actually playing. A lot of these rosters have like 1 or 2 people on the roster.
Stop freaking out and be a little more patient.
I wouldn't necessarily count on it. In the past 5 seasons, we've only extended twice. If you're waiting on the extension, you might be out of luck.
NosferatuAre invite/main moves finalized? it doesn't look like all of those rosters will be used and what about rent-a-homies/street hoops?
Invite moveups have not been done but the rest are finalized.
Move ups are complete. Go marvel at your new division!
tri_hi tftv
Sorry I haven't made a formal introduction yet. As far as I know I can't even post anything from now on without getting killing's approval. Anyway, If you're at all hesitant about playing ESEA next season or have any questions feel free to add me on steam. Hopefully I can inspire all of you to dream big and get into invite to get 4th over and over like me
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bscwill there be a main again?
As long as there'e enough open teams.
pharaoh__when do rosters unlock?
ps killing add br0nze, your list is full.
I'm 90% sure it's happening tommorow.
Just a quick note: If you'd like to play invite, please pm me ASAP.