HallowKoobadoobsCondescendingCandlestickHave conservatives ever heard of SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE?
"Where does the Constitution say that that exists?" -conservatives who disagree with gay marriage
Separation of Church and State would be great, but TBH that's 100% impossible. Where do you draw the line? If I start a religion where my God tells me I must kill a non-believer every day, and the state can't interfere in my beliefs, what's stopping me from murdering people every day? Their religion says that the punishment for murder is death, and it also demands the same punishment for homosexuality. To them, it's like legalizing a crime as bad as murder, and to overturn DOMA is to force our religion on them.
It's not about the State having power over a religion, it's about a religion governing the laws of a country. In a country with freedom of religion the Bible is never a legitimate argument, that's the point.
And my point is that those who disagree with you on gay marriage will also disagree with what you just said. They don't think there's any reason why the one set of laws that the divine creator sent them shouldn't be a basis for our laws. They believe that if we can tell our children to say "One Nation Under God," and pay debts with currency stating "In God We Trust," then surely our laws should fall under God's wishes, and we should trust his judgement. To them, this is a disease that must be eradicated. It goes deeper than the Bible. It has been so ingrained in them that they don't think of it as a belief. It's, to them, a pure fact that this disorder is evil and should be cured, not encouraged. It's a matter of being uneducated, and from lack of awareness they get their answer from the teacher they trust most. And though they don't think everyone must believe in their God, they think they're doing us a favor by saving us from this homosexual disease. You cannot change the law by telling them to ignore their beliefs. They'd think of themselves as a martyr if we scolded them for trying to ban gay marriage. You have to accept that although I agree that it would be nice for religion to be irrelevant, the group whose minds you actually want to change will not sacrifice their beliefs to honor the beliefs of the people they call sinners and demons.