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#100 ETF2L North American Division in TF2 General Discussion

E-thugimo CEVO is the most viable option. Its already established all it needs is teams signing up. ETF2L needs a whole new american admin lineup that are willing to put the work in.

It needs 3-4 admins at most.

posted about 11 years ago

#10 Pros and Cons of NA League choices in TF2 General Discussion

z4ch
NA ETF2L
Pros: Mods and admins are competitive TF2 players, listen to their league, good words from players from the EU scene. Willing to make a league as well (supposedly easy to setup?), Free. Possibly a LAN?
Cons: Not a definite choice yet, only one server in NA, no client (could be good or bad), EU rules (ew). No prizepool.

NA ETF2L is as good as confirmed as long as we get the interest. It's a definite choice for you.
As I said on the other thread we can easily get more servers from our sponsors, we just currently only have 1 because it's hardly ever needed. We have 5 German and 3 UK servers currently.

posted about 11 years ago

#56 ETF2L North American Division in TF2 General Discussion

showstopperI think North Americans should be allowed to vote for the ruleset they would want to use.

I would be in favor of the current NA rules, but with the current EU division setup.

The ETF2L website does not support the current NA rule system, which is why there is simply not a choice and the EU rules have to be used.

posted about 11 years ago

#44 ETF2L North American Division in TF2 General Discussion

shrtI think y'all have definitely improved your league over the past couple of seasons. Namely the unlocks, and booting some nerdy admins. I'd definitely put it as top alternative to ESEA.

Two things I've always been iffy over about your league. Map schedule and ruleset.

The two different maps a week thing is fine. I'd be ok for that. Everyone is familiar with the maps, and teams should be able to understand what to do after one night of effective pcws (heh). But playing both the maps back to back in one night never seemed appealing to me. If you are missing one of your starters game night due to some unavoidable incident, and there isn't an agreeable reschedule timeframe, then ya gotta get some backup or merc(no one likes doing that) and play both maps. Kinda blows. There are a ton of other excuses and what not weighing on one day to score points for the week.

The 30min/5 score difference ruleset is agreeably unfavorable here in NA. You can 1-0, grab the biggest wheel of cheese, and grind that baby down for next 27mins. Cheesing the clock isn't too common, but you can do it. In NA, you can cheese the clock the first half, but momentum is reset at half and its anyone's game again. The halftime momentum change is really critical too, I believe. Teams can really turn it around the second half; it makes for exciting TF2. You can also squeeze a lot of rounds into 30mins. I can't imagine how exhausting a map like granary would be if ya keep wiping each other at mid for 30mins.

If this NA coming to ETF2L thing actually happens, I would hope y'all see it as a coming together sort of thing and not a going to you sort of thing. Ya dig? Look over ya ruleset and what not and really evaluate if this makes for the best TF2.

Cheers.

Cheers!

I understand all of these concerns you have with the ruleset, there have been many arguments on the ETF2L forums between which ruleset is 'better'. The conclusion is basically that neither is actually better than the other, it's simply what you are used to. I believe that is the case here as I have never heard any European player complain about having to play 2 different maps in one go. It will take some getting used to for sure, but it's something you will have to do if you play in ETF2L. As someone said already, wildcards are used for that sort of thing, and while frustrating while used against you, can be very useful yourself sometimes.

Both rulesets have clear positives and negatives, I feel you are being a bit unfair by leaving out the exciting endings the EU ruleset brings. Capping a round to 3-3 with 1 minutes 30 left to cap another round, or winning the game in the final seconds can be very very exciting! (Especially at LAN). Generally most teams will not cheese unless it's 1 minute left and 1 round difference or something like that, but I understand the issues it brings.

I don't really know what you mean by this, but we wouldn't dump NA over in a corner and forgot about them.

posted about 11 years ago

#34 ETF2L North American Division in TF2 General Discussion

downpourI know how ETF2L deals with VAC Bans and VAC Bans on alts.
But what about VAC Bans in other games?
I think we all know ESEA's stance for those...

VAC Bans related to the Source Engine are a 1 year ban on ETF2L
All other VAC-related bans are fine to play on ETF2L with.

posted about 11 years ago

#14 ETF2L North American Division in TF2 General Discussion

DroidsterI'd make a joke about German overlords and ETF2L admins but there isn't anything I can think of right now :(

Ebanider: Germans own thise leageu and hide there german top players from ban. GJ ETF2l

posted about 11 years ago

#1 ETF2L North American Division in TF2 General Discussion

After the events of the last few days, and the new league that has been created by Nahanni and CEVO, ETF2L has decided to withdraw it's NA Division, in order for the NA community to fully commit to CEVO and make it as big as of a success as possible. We're a community based league, and the TF2 community is our #1 priority, splitting it up would do more harm than good.

I've heard a few people mention how they didn't like ETF2L instantly coming over to NA 'when it doesn't involve them' and trying to 'steal all the playerbase'. I'd just like to remind everyone that ETF2L is a non-profit community run league, and the reason I offered it to the NA community is because you were not happy with ESEA, and I personally saw ETF2L as the best alternative for you at the time. I didn't come over to try and take all of your money and make me rich.

CEVO working with Nahanni is a great oppotunity as a replacement for ESEA, and I urge you all to give it the support it deserves in order to make it great.

Cheers!

posted about 11 years ago

#142 meatshot 8) vol. 5 in TF2 General Discussion

nTraumharvestBeaterHow about all American teams switch over to ETF2L?

If enough American teams sign up for season 17, ETF2L would be able to put them into their own seperate divisions. That could keep the scene going until a better solution is figured out.
would be somewhat confusing since it is called "European Team Fortress 2 League" but it could work possibly
Yes, that's probably the biggest issue.

ETF2L has been hosting teams from across the world (including NA teams) and South America also. Currently they're just placed in divs with teams from similar regions/timezones if possible. I don't see how making a league is much different from that.

Also for a European League where the best nation at highlander is...the United States.

Anyway, an NA Division at ETF2L is easy to do if we get the interest and talk some things through internally. We would need a group of volunteers to admin the NA side of things, but this is all subject to debate once we can confirm interest.

posted about 11 years ago

#132 meatshot 8) vol. 5 in TF2 General Discussion

Would there be interest in an NA Division of ETF2L?

posted about 11 years ago

#84 TF2 Quotations thread in TF2 General Discussion

Ebanider: Germans own thise leageu and hide there german top players from ban. GJ ETF2l

[18:05:03] <+Abrab> do you have a mix going on?
[18:05:12] <+huhy> nop
[18:05:23] <+Abrab> i gonna kill my scoolmate than

posted about 11 years ago

#2 ETF2L Premiership: Epsilon eSports vs. willy wonkas chocolate factory (Week 4) in Events

Admirable and Ipz - is this real life?

posted about 11 years ago

#2 ETF2L S16 Premiership: Reverto vs. Willy wonkas chocolate factory (Week 7) in Events