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Yeah i think the general improvements to the map (stuff like fixing 3rd, and making the whole map less tight) are all good. However, badwater roof and the area surrounding it provides some of the best experiences ive had in tf2. And youve gone and thrown a spire right in the middle of it.
If youre going to completely redo a CP, go crazy with 3rd. 2nd should be left alone till people test the map.
Its fun and fast. There have been issues with performance and balance but they get better every patch. Plus the devs actually care about the game (unlike HiRez), so a lot of what they implement is what is requested by the community. They even recently added a global ranking system so you can keep track of your total points and "skill".
outatseano one likes seeing furion win the game by himself. furion has yet to eat a nerf after over a year of being a pos hero.
Furion is actually pretty fun to watch offlane. Ill be surprised if next patch we dont see a nerf to either jungle furion, or the hero as a whole.
2sy_morphiendDon't even attempt to make this argument with me around. You're wrong.
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/undecided-voter/n27698/, here's a more concise analogy for why treating spectators opinions on 6s rules as valid is bad.
So why am i wrong about dota?
yukiHow many games do you think take into mind what the spectator thinks, let alone values it higher over competitive players' opinions? Lets say I were bored of seeing Batrider, Dark Seer, Kotl, the usual suspects in Dota 2: If I messaged valve and were like "Hey, you should remove these heroes from the game because they make the game boring for me as a spectator", how do you think they (and the players) would respond? It's not the most ideal analogy, but it should clearly show why spectator's opinions should not be considered in games/sports/etc.
Bad example. Valve would nerf those heroes into the ground, and buff new ones that havent been a part of the meta. Case in point, Kotl was pick/banned constantly, so he got nerfed. Now we dont see him as often.
Shadow demon was picked every game, so he got nerfed. you see him a lot less now.
Batrider nerf is incoming.
A LOT of dota changes are made with the spectators in mind.
pine_beetleThe only problem I have with payload in 6s is the attacking team is forced to go through specific chokes that makes their uber really easy to kite. If they made a payload map where the movement of the cart could have a few different paths so you could avoid some really chokepoint infested areas it could work.
The way most good PL maps are designed, there are two paths:
1. The path the cart takes, which is easily spammed and chokey.
2. The area youre supposed to push and contest to make pushing the cart easier(badwater 2nd roof, or upward 2nd hill/attic).
Teams dont usually push through the cart paths with uber. Why doesnt the cart just go over the area youre supposed to contest? I have no idea, im not a mapper.
JohnMilterhttp://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561197997123353
No I dont play 6s. Thats why I have questions about it.
Im curious because Upward and Badwater are considered the best HL maps. What about PL doesn't translate well into the 6s format?
Whats wrong with NS2?
Does anyone know any of the other games being played?
BF3 is a pretty bad game. The only redeeming quality is the vehicle combat, which is actually pretty decent.
brah"we only want to make updates that benefit a majority of players"
iirc valve doesnt really touch promos, they just put them in the game.
So really, they're not the ones putting the time and effort into this.
I think the absolute biggest thing fighting games (and rts and mobas) have over TF2 is the viewers perspective. When we're forced to watch only one persons POV in a TF2 match, youre forcing the viewer to fill in all the blanks with their own game knowledge, which is kind of unwieldy for casual viewing.
Just one demoman does a ton of work though. He may be balanced in 6s, but demoman is almost medic teir in HL. And in pubs, hes the one sure-fire way to make sure your team wins, other than medic ofc.
PokemonAdventureSorry what was that?
Not saying demoman is the only one who could use tweaks. Stacking heavies is pretty gay too, but stacking demos is how you win.