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#297 Fat shaming in Off Topic

Oof. So much to catch up on.

posted about 11 years ago
#212 Fat shaming in Off Topic

I've no doubt we could get down to the nitty gritty and find all sorts of instances of things that don't fit. I am speaking in general terms, that a human, born as a man, who goes through hormone therapy and gender reassignment surgery to appear and sound like a woman, is still a man. Vice versa for humans born as women. I used the chromosome example of defining man vs. woman to eliminate the whole, "I was born a woman but in a man's body" argument.

Yes, there are examples such as the androgen insensitivity syndrome, and I'm sure there are others of which I am not familiar. I have no opinion on those specifically since I have no experience with them.

I'm sure my understanding of science is very shallow when compared to what some others understand. That's why this is opinion.

posted about 11 years ago
#210 Fat shaming in Off Topic

Of course there are exceptions to every rule, and we're not really talking about those. ;)

posted about 11 years ago
#205 Fat shaming in Off Topic

M4risa, I agree. Right and wrong are words that introduce morals more than anything, and I primarily used them for lack of coming up with something better. I do think 'irregular' fits more snugly in this context, and I will use that in the future.

F-zero,
I thought I answered a majority of your inquiries, but I responded to so many people at once, I may have skipped some. I don't think the 'why' is all that important, but I will try to answer your questions where possible. My beliefs may have stemmed from childhood religion, but it is not a driving factor at this time.

Benk, et al.
I don't have better terminology for it. I am indeed referring to the genetic dead-end that would arise if homosexuality became the norm. I think of it as a biological irregularity because i use 'biological' as a term that refers to something 'relating to, caused by, or affecting life or living organisms'.

To answer your last question, I suppose I wouldn't call it an affront to biology itself so much as an affront to the longevity of the human race.

I can't stress enough that I'm not trying to say the affected people are bad or wrong, or that I think less of them. They are playing the hand they're dealt, just like everyone. It's not that a homosexual is an affront; just the genetic makeup that causes that attraction. Again, nobody has to share my opinion on this, but it is my opinion, and it's not bigoted in any way.

posted about 11 years ago
#202 Fat shaming in Off Topic

I don't disagree with either point, Benk. The initial point was that it's silly to judge someone when you are part of a group who is pressuring for equality and non-judgment.

posted about 11 years ago
#196 Fat shaming in Off Topic
Renhet So I can call you a white, ignorant bigot and not be disrecpectful?

You are more than welcome to call me whatever you'd like, but no, personal insults because you disagree with me don't qualify as "not disrespectful".

wafflebPronouns don't come from sex, though.
Everyone I come in contact with calls me a woman so why cant you? It's obvious that I'm a woman when they look at me, or talk to me. It's irrelevant what chromosomes I was born with because it has no impact on how people view me.

You can call me a male all you want, but all you're doing is being an asshole. It's like bringing up that a someone is a rape victim for no reason when it has no impact on how you should view them.

If you want to consider me an asshole for sticking to my beliefs and scientific facts (that a person with XY chromosomes is male and a person with XX is female) then you are more than welcome to call me an asshole. Chromosomes are not irrelevant. Some people probably view you as female because you act female. Others view you as female because you have changed your appearance to look female. You are still a biological male and that will not change. What I am presenting is not me being an asshole or rude toward you; it is merely fact. You don't have to like it, and you are welcome to disagree with me all you want. While you are calling me an asshole, I will call you male. Comparing your chromosomal makeup to a rape victim is grasping at straws, at best.

Fzero

1. I am not holding an argument; I am expressing scientific facts coupled with my beliefs. I have nothing against the LGBT community; I simply do not condone their sexuality. I understand and accept that it is their natural-born sexuality which largely does not affect my life in any way, and I do not think less of them as people for it. A transgendered person is more than welcome to take on whichever societal gender role they please, and you are all welcome to call them by whichever pronoun you wish. I will call them by their scientific sex. You and your wife don't want kids, and that's fine. You are still in a biologically 'correct' relationship (1 man + 1 woman).

2. Their lifestyle inherently cannot produce offspring. I don't think we necessarily need to produce tons of offspring. I agree, the world is already overpopulated. I am merely speaking facts and my own principles when I refer to that lifestyle being biologically incorrect or unsustainable. I am not against birth control.

jermang

I am not trying to be offensive; I am stating my opinions that are derived from my personal belief system and scientific facts. Waffle is more than welcome to identify himself as a girl. He and the rest of the world have the right to think that's perfectly fine. If you think it's ignorant, I'm sorry. 'Ignorant' couldn't be further from the truth. You are asking me to disregard my own beliefs entirely and call a diamond a spade because the diamond wants to be a spade. If you want to refer to him as her, go for it. I prefer not to delude the truth; nothing more. My 'argument' doesn't prove more valid than anyone else's, because it's not an argument. It is me presenting my opinion and why I have that opinion.

eliIt's just a shame people still think like this, is all #closeminded

I am no more closed-minded to the opinions and beliefs of others than they are to the opinions and beliefs that I am presenting in this thread. On the contrary, I am very open-minded. I don't have to like it to accept it, do I?

posted about 11 years ago
#179 Fat shaming in Off Topic
RenhetsmakersI'm not preaching anything, Renhet. I will refer to him as male because, biologically, he is male. Why is it rude? I'm not disregarding his beliefs, thoughts, and feelings--I'm simply not disregarding my own, either.You are disregarding how she feels entirely. Do you know what respect is? Respect is not calling an individual something they don't want to be called. Right now you're acting like it's respectful to call a black gentleman a ****** because you don't believe in a black lifestyle.

She identifies as female, and if you want to consider yourself respectful with any decency you will refer to her as a female.

That comparison doesn't even make sense. Your opinion is that I am being disrespectful because I don't call him what he desires to be called. I don't see where respect has anything to do with it. I am not calling him a disparaging, racially-charged word. I am calling him what he is; a male human being.

posted about 11 years ago
#172 Fat shaming in Off Topic

Biologically correct as in, biologically capable of producing offspring. Obviously there are instances where it can't happen even when the biological requirements are met (male + female having sex).

It doesn't matter if it's normal.

posted about 11 years ago
#167 Fat shaming in Off Topic

No, kuza. I'm not judging them, and I'm not trying to be high and mighty, despite the king reference. I stated it's not biologically correct, nor is it considered normal. Where am I judging anyone? How am I being hypocritical?

posted about 11 years ago
#164 Fat shaming in Off Topic

I'm not preaching anything, Renhet. I will refer to him as male because, biologically, he is male. Why is it rude? I'm not disregarding his beliefs, thoughts, and feelings--I'm simply not disregarding my own, either.

posted about 11 years ago
#157 Fat shaming in Off Topic

I have color-folliculodisphoria. I demand you refer to me as normal.

posted about 11 years ago
#152 Fat shaming in Off Topic

thx

posted about 11 years ago
#148 Fat shaming in Off Topic

I have no problem with you desiring to be a woman. I will not refer to you as a woman, because biologically, you are not a woman. Your chromosomes are XY, not XX. You consider your gender to be female, and that's fine. Your sex is male, and thus I will refer to you as male. I don't need to re-evaluate anything, because I understand the modern differences of 'sex' being biological characteristics vs. 'gender' being societal roles and characteristics. I am completely fine with the fact that you take on a female societal role.

I consider it biologically wrong because the biological goal of every species is procreation, which is not achieved via homosexual and transsexual behavior.

It may be easier, but I have no desire to spout insults at you, and I apologize if that's how you're reading into these posts.

You have a stance and I have a stance. I respect yours, although I disagree. Why can't you do the same?

posted about 11 years ago
#143 Fat shaming in Off Topic

I think I was pretty clear, Renhet. I very well understand they're somewhat "hard coded" as you say. I understand a man with a homosexual predisposition cannot force himself to be sexually attracted to women just as I cannot force myself to be sexually attracted to men. I get it. I just don't agree with that lifestyle--it is biologically wrong. Do I shun people for it? No, I think they're free to live how they want, but they know it's not "normal" and it's not biologically correct. I respect your opinion, and it's fine that you don't want to use the word 'disagree'. I do, however.

posted about 11 years ago
#137 Fat shaming in Off Topic

I feel my above post might be taken too harshly. My stance on LGBT things is no secret; I vehemently disagree with the lifestyle. I do, however, know several people in those categories who I would classify as friends. I don't hate them or talk down to them for their lifestyle as it's not my place to do so. I don't agree with it, and if asked, I will respond as such.

posted about 11 years ago
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