From my experience every obese person i have met is either very lazy, has terrible eating habits or both. Now I know there are some people who's weight is out of their control, but from what I've seen that's an extreme minority.

I'm a civil person so I am never mean to them because of it, but unfortunately I do judge them.

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i hope you arent being serious right now

"friend"

i think if you were born with a dick you're a guy

What does that have to do with comparing excess fat and gender dysphoria? Please enlighten me.

It's been established that most people are overweight by choice. Gender dysphoria, by scientific research and medical professionals, is not.

i think that's a close-minded opinion but you have a right to it so I wont judge you for it.

see what writing things like that accomplishes?

This is one of the dumbest threads I've ever seen, but it's a typical mentality these days. You are admittedly transsexual. You fight for the LGBT community to have equality and for people to treat you as equal rather than treating you differently because you were born male.

...but you turn around and judge other people for superficial reasons? Really?

Unfortunately, you are not alone. Most of the people who vehemently fight for equality in the LGBT community are hypocrites. They want everyone to think of them and treat them as equal, but those who don't treat them as equal are chastised for it. The recurring mentality is essentially, "You don't treat me like an equal? You're a piece of crap!"

Gender dysmorphia, gay, bi, fat, skinny, ugly, pale, dark, blah blah blah. Here's an idea: don't judge people. And for damn sure--don't judge people when you're part of a group complaining about being judged.

What a fucking joke.

how can you call being fat un-desirable and disgusting when you pretend to be a girl

You should help your friend by being supportive. Tell her that you do care for her and ask her if there is anything that you can do to help. Tell her that you care for her as a person but you are concerned for health reasons. You also have to accept that fact that she may not be ready to let go of her weight. I am glad to hear that she has a friend like you.

I know a lady who is overweight because she was hurt by a man so badly (read between the lines there...PTSD) that she gained weight and hangs onto it because she doesn't want the attention from men...FACT! So don't judge, accept people for who they are as people not for what they look like. Life is short and we need to enjoy it the best we can with the best supportive people around us.

People have reasons why they are the way they are. If you judge them by the way they look then I really hope to God that something bad doesn't happen to you and you get treated in that way. What if you were always popular because of the way you looked and had no personality ect? Then what if something tragic happened like your face got burned and people started to judge you like you did to others? What do you have left? Who are you as a person...a human being? Take a look around at yourself and your friends. Would they stick around if you for some reason wasn't physically attractive anymore?

To flip this to the other side of the coin, I have a drop dead beautiful blonde girl friend who tells me it drove her crazy dating cause she never really knew 100% if men just wanted her for her body or for her as a person. It really bothered her and still does. She just wants to be liked for being "herself as a person" not because of her body that gets double takes everywhere she goes.

At the end of the day for me we need to be supportive and don't judge!! If you judge may you never feel that pain that you have caused to others People who are overweight are not lazy, they truly and generally don't want to be that way...they just don't have the tools, resources, mental capacity, self-esteem, self-worth or support to change. Don

What smakers said. Also, people act so elitist, like they are all that in a bag of chips (no pun intended towards the topic) and think everything they don't believe in/aren't a part of is immoral or wrong. Fact is, until you actually LIVE through what they go through, you have absolutely NO room to even begin to judge anyone.

I'm not trying to make a sob story or anything, but for the past few years, I have been mildly depressed. My parents got divorced, I had to put my first dog down, I feel disgusting, because I am a little overweight, and people put me down at school. Even through ALL of that, I have never once judged or said anything to anyone who has dealt with anything of what I have dealt with. If you were truly her friend, you wouldn't go behind her back and post on the forums basically degrading here in front of the entire internet, which basically everyone has access too.

TL;DR: Don't Judge before you have experienced and know what they have gone through.

Well said, Smaka.

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transfat has been really getting some bad publicity these past years

big women are hawt

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you look really gross, so dont talk about desirable...

I'm pretty sure that I'm beautiful L0L dont have to pretend mate

You can't really compare being LGBT with obesity. If it really upsets people to be made fun of when they're obese, they can lose weight. If you're gay or whatever, there is shit all you can do about people making fun of you, thus there is a cause to fight for.

Also, I don't expect people to treat me as an equal. I have come to accept that in todays society, however normal and cis I may look and sound, if someone finds out about me being transgender they will most likely be a little put off. I'm not bothered. There's nothing I can change about it.
But if I could, I know that I would do anything and everything I could to do so

You act as if losing all the weight is so easy.

dusnt mater if i hav swag

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You act like it's difficult. Diet, excercise, perhaps a metabolic from a doctor (if the person actually has a thyroid problem) and some time and dedication, most people stop being fat.

On paper it's easy, but the underlying psychological reason isn't easy to change. Of course exception to those with the weird diseases like the always hungry thing and what not, which are just beyond their control completely. Plus they're biologically attuned to their current habits making it awfully hard to get them to change.

It's like an addiction. Dunno why puff wat'd at my post, but obesity is just an eating disorder that you can notice right away based on their size. Most other addictions can actually be hidden so there's less public shaming.

Agreed that it can be an addiction. For some people they'ed prefer to not drink anything at all if their only option is water.

lel amerifats

dont care if i get minusfragged

It's threads like these that make it clearer to me as to why I've become such a misanthrope. That's good I suppose.

Is it terribly difficult to behave with what some would describe as decency towards other people or avoid being around them (so as to prevent mutual agitation)?

No amount of shame will ever cause somebody to change a behavior. They have to decide that they make their own rules for themselves and that they'd prefer to be a certain way. It will either happen or it won't and there's really nothing anyone else can do to affect that change without arbitrarily imposing their will on another person (and that generally doesn't generate good feelings between individuals).

What about not giving a single fuck about her body, because you are her friend?

Only thing you should mention is about the complaints: You should tell her, that she cannot eat as much as she wants and keeps complaining about her weight/body/whatever. Do something against it, otherwise, just live with it! Honestly, these ppl, who are complaining about something, that could be changed easily, are the worst.

Eat healthier, do some sports...it's that easy!

the only time i ever care about weight is when it comes to dating someone really, as that is an attraction factor. If things are just platonic or normal or w/e then idk why anyone would give a fuck outside of caring that someone you like might die if it's a super serious case.

i've been underweight all my life too so it's not like i'm saying this coz i'm fat or something, but it's not that big of a deal that I think you need to sham every overweight person to try to fix it.

It's so great and nice to be able to walk out in the world and never get judged because humans don't think like that. Oh wait.

Oh wait, you just judged the whole world!