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Oh, don't worry, it is <1500€. Just Amazon France prices because I was lazy.
Unless he wants a 1440p monitor included in the budget.

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https://www.rue-montgallet.com/
Or whatever he wants to use.

250€ 1600X https://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/acheter,amd-ryzen-5-1600x-3.6-ghz,826853
40€ cooler, literally anything, Enermax ETS-T40, Cryorig H7, Raijintek Ereboss, whatever he can find
87€ GA-B350M Gaming 3 https://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/acheter,gigabyte-ga-ab350m-gaming-3,826075 (lots of options <100€ though)
~100€ RAM, again anything DDR4 2x8GB >= 2400 MHz is fine
93€ 850 Evo 250GB https://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/acheter,samsung-250go-850-evo,804261
46€ ST1000DM010 https://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/acheter,seagate-barracuda-1-to-st1000dm010,818138
750€ 1080 Ti https://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/acheter,inno3d-ichill-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-x3,826755 (again, lots of different options here, not all were listed)
90€ G-550 https://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/acheter,seasonic-550w-g-550,772621
54€ N200 https://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/acheter,cooler-master-n200,788597
~1510€

See, works out just fine.
Could probably save another 10-20€ on the cooler by actually looking, but there's so many options that I didn't bother with that. Easier to figure out the rest, then see what's in stock at the shops he'll be ordering from anyway.
Even a much worse cooler would still be ok. He can get another case fan if he wants to.
Or a cheaper PSU https://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/acheter,corsair-cx550m-semi-modulaire-550w,811579
Or getting a 1600 and overclocking it instead of a 1600X.
Or 2x4GB RAM.
Or any combination of that.

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Hey there, my old pc of 6+ years finally died today so I'm thinking of building a pc for the first time. I don't know too much about parts but I'd be mainly using it to play TF2 (ideally above 100fps), do uni work and just general browsing of the internet.

My budget is around £500-£750 solely for the pc as I have the peripherals and monitor already.

Just wanted to post and say that my father's computer is now built and functional. Thanks for all the help you've once again provided me with.

#2377 & #2379
https://youtu.be/Y6ljFaKRTrI?t=7

#2378
I'm assuming you're not going to overclock?
Something like this
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i3-7100 3.9GHz Dual-Core Processor (£100.74 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£75.23 @ More Computers)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (£109.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£83.32 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£37.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£44.74 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£48.44 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £500.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-04 21:27 BST+0100

and then a GPU of your choice, up to a 1060 6GB or 580 8GB, depending on how much performance you need. Just for TF2 and browsing far less would be enough, depending on the settings in TF2 even just the integrated graphics.
You can also change the storage capacity (or even omit the HDD) depending on how much you need.
An i3-7300 or 7320 would also be possible, but the difference in performance is marginal (<=5%).
Likewise if you definitely won't need the integrated graphics a Pentium G4620/4600/4560 would be only marginally slower but significantly cheaper.

Starting a build. Would love any advice.

GOALS:
Plays modern competitive fps games at 144hertz + streaming.
Willing to compromise game quality for performance, especially for maximizing refresh rate.
Need monitor. Single monitor setup. Between 24" and 27" is fine. Curious about ultra low motion blur.
Flexible budget around $700 USD. Can time with technology releases and sales.

Specs:
<1TB storage
1SSD+HDD
MicroATX
single GPU
3-4 USB ports
OC is fine

Ill post a pcpartpicker tomorrow.
Thanks!

I'm looking to build a gaming system. I need a build within grounds of a $1800 AUD budget, 120SSD / HDD needed (2TB), 144hz monitor (XL2511Z), needs to be minimal noise, requires a graphics card that can accommodate for 2 monitors (one running above 144hz). Games typically run would be TF2 / source games. I'd really like to be able to get 300+ fps consistent if at all possible, for maximum reliability. I want to build as soon as possible.

#2381

Then you should probably google it.

How are you going to get <1TB with SSD + HDD? 500GB HDD? Might as well just get a larger SSD and nothing else.

Front panel USB ports or total?

Would love to see that build, 700$ budget minus >200$ for a 144 Hz monitor but also a GPU and CPU good enough to stream while getting 144 fps? Seems rather difficult.

#2382
Would a 250GB SSD be better?
XL2411Z?
Minimum would be passive cooling, but I'll see what I can do.
Any GPU can run >=2 monitors.
Only for TF2/source games you don't really need a good GPU, unless you're going for max settings.

How much difference will I notice between a oc'ed i7 7700k at 5 ghz and Ryzen 7 1700 at 4 ghz in tf2 and modern games? How much impact will 1ghz have?

This isn't just about clockrate, but also about IPC.
Also you have to actually get the 7700K to 5.0 Ghz.
If I had to guess I'd say about 25-35% for TF2, in modern games if you're actually using high settings you'll be running into a GPU limit and the difference will be ~2%.

Intel cpu's have higher instructions per cycle which means 1ghz intel is faster than 1ghz amd so dont pay too much attention to the hz when comparing across brands.

Setsul beat me

You're oversimplifying this a bit, this isn't about Intel vs AMD, it's about architectures.
Also IPC even depends on programs.
So while on average it's Bulldozer < Sandy Bridge < Ivy Bridge < Haswell < Zen < Broadwell < Skylake = Kaby Lake in some programs Broadwell will have higher IPC than Zen and in some it will have lower.
Then there's even weirder things where due to some microarchitectural fuckery some things are actually slower on Haswell than on Sandy Bridge.

Would a 1700 at 4 ghz be able to produce 144+ frames in tf2, at 1080p and 1440p?

Depends on the settings.
Just look in the benchmark thread or ask someone with a Zen based CPU.

Also, including imports, I can get a gtx 1060 for half the price of a 1080 and a 1070 for 150 usd more than a 1060. Which would be the best bang for the buck?

This reads like an exercises from a math schoolbook.
x = price of 1060
y = price of 1070
z = price of 1080
x = z/2
y = x + 150

3 variables, only 2 equations -> not uniquely solvable.

Also bang for buck is a terrible metric when you're comparing 3 things where the fastest is almost twice as fast as the slowest and twice as expensive. If you want e.g. 60 fps at certain settings and only the fastest will get you that all other options are useless regardless of bang for buck. If even the slowest is fast enough then anything more expensive is a waste of money.

1060 3GB or 6GB?

6 gb
Also, I'm fine with as long as I can get 144+ fps on 1440p in most games even if on low. I'm gonna guess it's probably gonna be between 1060 and 1070. Thanks for all your help!

I like that I somehow answered the question which got a better price to performance ratio without ever knowing any price.

Thanks for your help! Gonna go with the 1070.

It's almost 12am, I have a exam tomorrow, and I'm here. GG

Thought I'd let you know that I ended up buying now, just waiting for parts to ship and hopefully will haev everything up and running by the end of next week

If the 250GB SSD fits the budget, then yes.
I'm not going for max graphics, just performance.

And the XL2411Z was a typo > https://www.pccasegear.com/products/36321

you're just that good m999

#2381
So where is that partlist?

#2396
Forgot to ask about overclocking.
If yes, then something like this.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.00 @ Shopping Express)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($61.09 @ Kogan)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z270M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($169.00 @ IJK)
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($174.90 @ Umart)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($138.00 @ Shopping Express)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.00 @ Shopping Express)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 470 4GB STRIX Video Card ($273.00 @ Umart)
Case: Cooler Master - N200 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($59.00 @ Shopping Express)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($85.00 @ Shopping Express)
Monitor: BenQ - XL2411 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($399.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $1780.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-11 03:51 AEST+1000

Get whatever case you want.

Which would be the monitor running above 144 Hz? And why do you need a XL2411 in addition to that?
What is that about reliability? How are fps related to reliability?

Over clocking isn't really a big deal for me, I'm pretty useless when it comes to computers, what I meant by reliability is that the fps is consistent and reliable and not jittery and inconsistent. The XL2411 Would be the only 144hz, in addition to my 60hz monitor which i already own, Neither monitors will be running over 144hz, just a mistake on my end.

Thank you very much for the list, i thoroughly appreciate it.

It doesn't matter if it's a big deal or not.
Are you going to overclock, yes or no?
It costs extra, so if you're not going to then it'd be a waste of money.

#2398
I'm holding off until further notice.

Hi nerds,

So I have a pc with an i5 4460 @ 3.2 Ghz and an AMD HD 7850. I get 200 fps average in - game, which is fine for me as I have a 60Hz monitor. However, I recently played on my friends PC with his 144Hz monitor and the difference was incredible and I would really like to get one.

MY QUESTION IS: How many frames should I look to be getting when running at 144Hz, can I achieve this with my current set up, and, ultimately, do I buy a 144Hz monitor yet or upgrade my PC first.

Recommendations on which parts to upgrade to would also be appreciated, bearing in mind my motherboard is an H81M and I have 8 GB of DDR3