dollarlayer logic: Fuck your facts, here's another youtube video from an english guy who agrees with me
BBiA_duchessdollarlayer logic: Fuck your facts, here's another youtube video from an english guy who agrees with me
AKA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
BBiA_duchessdollarlayer logic: Fuck your facts, here's another youtube video from an english guy who agrees with me
I'm sorry if my sources trigger you, I'm just pointing out I'm not making up random shit. Although it is not a mainstream view, in the alternative media community this kind of thing is pretty mainstream.
But yea there is quite a bit of proof that a lot of the data that supports global warming is cherry picked, fake, or taken out of context, which is why I'm always very skeptical. After all there are people making million's selling carbon shares. The whole climate change scare gives governments the ability to take more rights away and introduce more taxes and regulations giving them more control. But we all know that the government, elite, and shadow governments all have our best interest in mind right? Nothing to fear.
Here is another source, hope it doesn't trigger you but it proves the FBI knows that global warming is made up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation_On_Global_Warming
I'm sorry if my sources trigger you, I'm just pointing out I'm not making up random shit. Although it is not a mainstream view, in the alternative media community this kind of thing is pretty mainstream.
But yea there is quite a bit of proof that a lot of the data that supports global warming is cherry picked, fake, or taken out of context, which is why I'm always very skeptical. After all there are people making million's selling carbon shares. The whole climate change scare gives governments the ability to take more rights away and introduce more taxes and regulations giving them more control. But we all know that the government, elite, and shadow governments all have our best interest in mind right? Nothing to fear.
Here is another source, hope it doesn't trigger you but it proves the FBI knows that global warming is made up:
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Bureau_of_Investigation_On_Global_Warming[/url]
dollarlayerBBiA_duchessdollarlayer logic: Fuck your facts, here's another youtube video from an english guy who agrees with me
I'm sorry if my sources trigger you, I'm just pointing out I'm not making up random shit. Although it is not a mainstream view, in the alternative media community this kind of thing is pretty mainstream.
But yea there is quite a bit of proof that a lot of the data that supports global warming is cherry picked, fake, or taken out of context, which is why I'm always very skeptical. After all there are people making million's selling carbon shares. The whole climate change scare gives governments the ability to take more rights away and introduce more taxes and regulations giving them more control. But we all know that the government, elite, and shadow governments all have our best interest in mind right? Nothing to fear.
You do realize that all the corporations that are making literally trillions of dollars off of nonrenewable energy sources have everything to gain if they convince people that global warming doesn't exist? That's what you should be afraid of. The government, elite, and "shadow governments" (lol), want people like you to think global warming is a hoax, so you spread your idiocy around, and no one does anything about climate change.
I'm sorry if my sources trigger you, I'm just pointing out I'm not making up random shit. Although it is not a mainstream view, in the alternative media community this kind of thing is pretty mainstream.
But yea there is quite a bit of proof that a lot of the data that supports global warming is cherry picked, fake, or taken out of context, which is why I'm always very skeptical. After all there are people making million's selling carbon shares. The whole climate change scare gives governments the ability to take more rights away and introduce more taxes and regulations giving them more control. But we all know that the government, elite, and shadow governments all have our best interest in mind right? Nothing to fear.[/quote]
You do realize that all the corporations that are making literally trillions of dollars off of nonrenewable energy sources have everything to gain if they convince people that global warming doesn't exist? That's what you should be afraid of. The government, elite, and "shadow governments" (lol), want people like you to think global warming is a hoax, so you spread your idiocy around, and no one does anything about climate change.
BBiA_duchessYou do realize that all the corporations that are making literally trillions of dollars off of nonrenewable energy sources have everything to gain if they convince people that global warming doesn't exist? That's what you should be afraid of. The government, elite, and "shadow governments" (lol), want people like you to think global warming is a hoax, so you spread your idiocy around, and no one does anything about climate change.
LOL. You are not very in tune with reality are you? Big oil stays pretty quiet when it comes to their views on "climate change" and "global warming" but they certainly spend millions on lobbyists to suppress laws that would have a negative impact on their sales. http://www.climatechangenews.com/2016/04/07/big-oil-spent-115m-obstructing-climate-laws-in-2015-ngo-says/
Don't believe in shadow governments? Even the FBI recently admits that recently there has been a powerful group they refer to as "The Shadow government" protecting Hillary Clinton during the original email investigation. Here I even picked a liberal news source as my source: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/17/fbi-releases-100-new-pages-on-clinton-email-probe.html
Wake up!
LOL. You are not very in tune with reality are you? Big oil stays pretty quiet when it comes to their views on "climate change" and "global warming" but they certainly spend millions on lobbyists to suppress laws that would have a negative impact on their sales. http://www.climatechangenews.com/2016/04/07/big-oil-spent-115m-obstructing-climate-laws-in-2015-ngo-says/
Don't believe in shadow governments? Even the FBI recently admits that recently there has been a powerful group they refer to as "The Shadow government" protecting Hillary Clinton during the original email investigation. Here I even picked a liberal news source as my source: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/17/fbi-releases-100-new-pages-on-clinton-email-probe.html
Wake up!
dollarlayer in alternative media community this kind of thing is pretty mainstream.
"Alternative media" has about as much legitimacy as alternative medicine and alternative science, which is, lol none you crackpot conspiracy theorist
dollarlayerhttp://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/17/fbi-releases-100-new-pages-on-clinton-email-probe.html
" But the "Shadow Government" did not get its way, and the agency in charge decided for a rolling release, the FBI summary said."
wow such power
much shadow
Wake up sheeple!
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"Alternative media" has about as much legitimacy as alternative medicine and alternative science, which is, lol none you crackpot conspiracy theorist
[quote=dollarlayer]
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/17/fbi-releases-100-new-pages-on-clinton-email-probe.html
[/quote]
" But the "Shadow Government" did not get its way, and the agency in charge decided for a rolling release, the FBI summary said."
wow such power
much shadow
Wake up sheeple!
The responses to the medieval warming period points raised are slightly disappointing, just to make it clear in case anybody actually doesn't know
- There was a period in the middle ages during which there was some localised warming and cooling that took place over a period of several hundred years
- Research into things like tree ring data, coral, ice cores, etc indicates that this wasn't a global phenomena
- The difference now is that the warming is global, the rate is much much faster, the change is already much greater, and it coincides precisely with industrialisation
The idea that the medieval warming period is remotely analogous or relevant to the current state of the global climate is completely debunked. To believe it's relevant you have to believe in a conspiracy so vast that scientific method itself is fundamentally invalid. Good luck with that.
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[*] There was a period in the middle ages during which there was some localised warming and cooling that took place over a period of several hundred years
[*] Research into things like tree ring data, coral, ice cores, etc indicates that this wasn't a global phenomena
[*] The difference now is that the warming is global, the rate is much much faster, the change is already much greater, and it coincides precisely with industrialisation
[/list]
The idea that the medieval warming period is remotely analogous or relevant to the current state of the global climate is completely debunked. To believe it's relevant you have to believe in a conspiracy so vast that scientific method itself is fundamentally invalid. Good luck with that.
dollarlayer@812 -- Sorry bud, but you are not convincing me of anything. Anything I argue, I've already made up my mind on. Your views, opinions, and sources are meaningless to me, especially when they are government sources. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jzBWmpzifc
thats it im voting for clinton just to spite you now
thats it im voting for clinton just to spite you now
dollarlayer@812 -- Sorry bud, but you are not convincing me of anything. Anything I argue, I've already made up my mind on. Your views, opinions, and sources are meaningless to me, especially when they are government sources. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jzBWmpzifc
So a guy who claims to be Margaret Thatcher's "science adviser" is who you trust to give you accurate information regarding climate change?
So a guy who claims to be Margaret Thatcher's "science adviser" is who you trust to give you accurate information regarding climate change?
[spoiler]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbW-aHvjOgM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTY3FnsFZ7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpF48b6Lsbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3giRaGNTMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRCyctTvuCo[/spoiler]
GentlemanJonThe responses to the medieval warming period points raised are slightly disappointing, just to make it clear in case anybody actually doesn't knowThe idea that the medieval warming period is remotely analogous or relevant to the current state of the global climate is completely debunked. To believe it's relevant you have to believe in a conspiracy so vast that scientific method itself is fundamentally invalid. Good luck with that.
- There was a period in the middle ages during which there was some localised warming and cooling that took place over a period of several hundred years
- Research into things like tree ring data, coral, ice cores, etc indicates that this wasn't a global phenomena
- The difference now is that the warming is global, the rate is much much faster, the change is already much greater, and it coincides precisely with industrialisation
further:
.6C change over the entire world is median change for every region. Based on what we know about climate change where increased warmth in some regions will lead to cooling in others as a result of shifted ice sheets and shit .6C doesn't at all accurately explain how severe the change actually is. We're in a 15 month record high heat in the US where the average temperature is a full degree C above the 20th century average. At the same time, antarctic waters were on average 1-2C below the average temperature.
Because of the way the albedo and shit works, you could quite seriously change the entirety of the world's environment with relatively small changes in median temperature. The Jurassic and Cretaceous border period had a median temperature 2-3C above current norms, and as far as we can tell had literally no ice sheets. The continents were in a similar place to today, but Antarctica was a temperate area with light snowfall. The planet as a whole was warmer, with many areas likely being SIGNIFICANTLY hotter, but the temperature variance across latitudes was far less severe
[list]
[*] There was a period in the middle ages during which there was some localised warming and cooling that took place over a period of several hundred years
[*] Research into things like tree ring data, coral, ice cores, etc indicates that this wasn't a global phenomena
[*] The difference now is that the warming is global, the rate is much much faster, the change is already much greater, and it coincides precisely with industrialisation
[/list]
The idea that the medieval warming period is remotely analogous or relevant to the current state of the global climate is completely debunked. To believe it's relevant you have to believe in a conspiracy so vast that scientific method itself is fundamentally invalid. Good luck with that.[/quote]
further:
.6C change over the entire world is median change for every region. Based on what we know about climate change where increased warmth in some regions will lead to cooling in others as a result of shifted ice sheets and shit .6C doesn't at all accurately explain how severe the change actually is. We're in a 15 month record high heat in the US where the average temperature is a full degree C above the 20th century average. At the same time, antarctic waters were on average 1-2C [i]below[/i] the average temperature.
Because of the way the albedo and shit works, you could quite seriously change the entirety of the world's environment with relatively small changes in median temperature. The Jurassic and Cretaceous border period had a median temperature 2-3C above current norms, and as far as we can tell had literally no ice sheets. The continents were in a similar place to today, but Antarctica was a temperate area with light snowfall. The planet as a whole was warmer, with many areas likely being SIGNIFICANTLY hotter, but the temperature variance across latitudes was far less severe
"But yea there is quite a bit of proof that a lot of the data that supports global warming is cherry picked, fake, or taken out of context, which is why I'm always very skeptical. After all there are people making million's selling carbon shares. The whole climate change scare gives governments the ability to take more rights away and introduce more taxes and regulations giving them more control. But we all know that the government, elite, and shadow governments all have our best interest in mind right? Nothing to fear."
Aren't you cherry picking by ignoring the countless sources people have linked and instead only using the ones that support your view???
Aren't you cherry picking by ignoring the countless sources people have linked and instead only using the ones that support your view???
CleepopleAren't you cherry picking by ignoring the countless sources people have linked and instead only using the ones that support your view???
LOL. Why are you still arguing with me over this issue. I already said, its impossible to change my mind over this. A couple years ago, I went on a documentary binge on global warming/climate change video's. I watched plenty of mainstream ones (Netflix and science shows/channels) and then some alternative ones on youtube. Then I did also my own research. I don't need to prove anything to you, and you won't convince me of anything with your mainstream sources. What they are doing is largely not even actual Science, its bogus to fit their viewpoint and agenda. They come up with their hypothesis that man is burning fossil fuel's which in turn is causing the climate to heat up, then they go search and cherry pick data that supports that. They'll take measurements from one hemisphere and not the other. They'll take selective data points and throw out the other contradictory data. It's actually pathetic. Do some actual research, watch the video's I linked. It just isn't some "conspiracy theory" if there is actual proof. The guy takes the IPCC charts/graphs/data and debunks them. Hell even the whole fact that they largely changed the term from Global Warming to Climate Change should kind of give you a hint. They realized that they were inaccurate by saying man was responsible for an increase in co2 which directly increases temperature. If that were the case we wouldn't see some years that were colder than others, we wouldn't be seeing a large expansion of polar ice shelves. Hell even NASA says there has recently been a large increase in antartic ice: http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses
But NASA is pretty shady on a lot of things. They can't even provide us with an unaltered picture of the earth for example. They use artists to doctor things up, introduce more clouds and make it look all pretty.
LOL. Why are you still arguing with me over this issue. I already said, its impossible to change my mind over this. A couple years ago, I went on a documentary binge on global warming/climate change video's. I watched plenty of mainstream ones (Netflix and science shows/channels) and then some alternative ones on youtube. Then I did also my own research. I don't need to prove anything to you, and you won't convince me of anything with your mainstream sources. What they are doing is largely not even actual Science, its bogus to fit their viewpoint and agenda. They come up with their hypothesis that man is burning fossil fuel's which in turn is causing the climate to heat up, then they go search and cherry pick data that supports that. They'll take measurements from one hemisphere and not the other. They'll take selective data points and throw out the other contradictory data. It's actually pathetic. Do some actual research, watch the video's I linked. It just isn't some "conspiracy theory" if there is actual proof. The guy takes the IPCC charts/graphs/data and debunks them. Hell even the whole fact that they largely changed the term from Global Warming to Climate Change should kind of give you a hint. They realized that they were inaccurate by saying man was responsible for an increase in co2 which directly increases temperature. If that were the case we wouldn't see some years that were colder than others, we wouldn't be seeing a large expansion of polar ice shelves. Hell even NASA says there has recently been a large increase in antartic ice: http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses
But NASA is pretty shady on a lot of things. They can't even provide us with an unaltered picture of the earth for example. They use artists to doctor things up, introduce more clouds and make it look all pretty.
are you smoking the tinfoil too, or just wearing it?
dollarlayerBut NASA is pretty shady on a lot of things. They can't even provide us with an unaltered picture of the earth for example. They use artists to doctor things up, introduce more clouds and make it look all pretty.
LMFAO
jesus fucking christ this guy has a right to vote in the united states of america
LMFAO
jesus fucking christ this guy has a right to vote in the united states of america
if you're a neutral reader of this thread:
look at who's voting for trump
look at who's voting for trump
owldollarlayerBut NASA is pretty shady on a lot of things. They can't even provide us with an unaltered picture of the earth for example. They use artists to doctor things up, introduce more clouds and make it look all pretty.
LMFAO
jesus fucking christ this guy has a right to vote in the united states of america
I know it is hard to believe, but do your own research. Why wouldn't they show us raw pictures?
eeeif you're a neutral reader of this thread:
look at who's voting for trump
I'm not voting for Trump.
LMFAO
jesus fucking christ this guy has a right to vote in the united states of america[/quote]
I know it is hard to believe, but do your own research. Why wouldn't they show us raw pictures?
[quote=eee]if you're a neutral reader of this thread:
look at who's voting for trump[/quote]
I'm not voting for Trump.
dollarlayerCleepopleAren't you cherry picking by ignoring the countless sources people have linked and instead only using the ones that support your view???But NASA is pretty shady on a lot of things. They can't even provide us with an unaltered picture of the earth for example. They use artists to doctor things up, introduce more clouds and make it look all pretty.
There's a reason they do this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zczK51l9w6Y&feature=youtu.be&t=22m15s
There's a reason they do this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zczK51l9w6Y&feature=youtu.be&t=22m15s
dollarlayerowldollarlayerBut NASA is pretty shady on a lot of things. They can't even provide us with an unaltered picture of the earth for example. They use artists to doctor things up, introduce more clouds and make it look all pretty.
LMFAO
jesus fucking christ this guy has a right to vote in the united states of america
I know it is hard to believe, but do your own research. Why wouldn't they show us raw pictures?
eeeif you're a neutral reader of this thread:
look at who's voting for trump
I'm not voting for Trump.
people that claim nasa's photos are fake don't know shit about photography or how cameras work
LMFAO
jesus fucking christ this guy has a right to vote in the united states of america[/quote]
I know it is hard to believe, but do your own research. Why wouldn't they show us raw pictures?
[quote=eee]if you're a neutral reader of this thread:
look at who's voting for trump[/quote]
I'm not voting for Trump.[/quote]
people that claim nasa's photos are fake don't know shit about photography or how cameras work
dollarlayer
I'm not voting for Trump.
youve been riding his cock for the entire thread i think you're just trying to not seem like an extreme retard now
I'm not voting for Trump.[/quote]
youve been riding his cock for the entire thread i think you're just trying to not seem like an extreme retard now
Daggerpeople that claim nasa's photos are fake don't know shit about photography or how cameras work
You got me. I own several DSLR's and part of my job requires me to take pictures for a living. I don't know how cameras work though... lol. I'm aware that some of the pictures do require some level of editing, because they stitch photo's together from multiple sources. But I mean come on adding random duplicate cloud formations? Why. And then there is the pretty clear "SEX" cloud in one of their photos.
Greatly different size of north America? https://www.pachamama.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/EarthComparison_550.png Why?
remedydollarlayeryouve been riding his cock for the entire thread i think you're just trying to not seem like an extreme retard now
I'm not voting for Trump.
No, I'm just being a smart ass. I'm not voting for Trump, I've already voted.
You got me. I own several DSLR's and part of my job requires me to take pictures for a living. I don't know how cameras work though... lol. I'm aware that some of the pictures do require some level of editing, because they stitch photo's together from multiple sources. But I mean come on adding random duplicate cloud formations? Why. And then there is the pretty clear "SEX" cloud in one of their photos.
Greatly different size of north America? https://www.pachamama.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/EarthComparison_550.png Why?
[quote=remedy][quote=dollarlayer]
I'm not voting for Trump.[/quote]
youve been riding his cock for the entire thread i think you're just trying to not seem like an extreme retard now[/quote]
No, I'm just being a smart ass. I'm not voting for Trump, I've already voted.
owldollarlayerBut NASA is pretty shady on a lot of things. They can't even provide us with an unaltered picture of the earth for example. They use artists to doctor things up, introduce more clouds and make it look all pretty.
LMFAO
jesus fucking christ this guy has a right to vote in the united states of america
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." -Winston Churchill
LMFAO
jesus fucking christ this guy has a right to vote in the united states of america[/quote]
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." -Winston Churchill
dollarlayerI'm not voting for Trump.
You're not the only person in the thread
You're not the only person in the thread
why did i reply to someone on my top 10 shitposters list
dollarlayerGreatly different size of north America? https://www.pachamama.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/EarthComparison_550.png Why?
you realize that the earth is a sphere right? if you rotate a sphere on camera, especially with a very narrow focal length you'll see the features start to warp. Since you seem to accept youtube videos as proof, you can compare this with this and this video. As the camera zooms more and more the warp becomes less and less noticeable. The earth is a very large ball and the photo is taken from quite close so the effect will be FAR more pronounced, as the subject would take up less and less of the total visible area
This happens because you're trying to project a round surface onto a flat plane. When you're taking photos of the earth, the entire earth takes up 180+ degrees of the FOV, meaning that directly placing them onto a flat image will cause severe warping. Taking photos from farther away would mitigate this.
Greatly different size of north America? https://www.pachamama.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/EarthComparison_550.png Why?
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you realize that the earth is a sphere right? if you rotate a sphere on camera, especially with a very narrow focal length you'll see the features start to warp. Since you seem to accept youtube videos as proof, you can compare this with [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8FkZtedZk8]this[/url] and [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcR6mPKnBJA]this [/url] video. As the camera zooms more and more the warp becomes less and less noticeable. The earth is a very large ball and the photo is taken from quite close so the effect will be FAR more pronounced, as the subject would take up less and less of the total visible area
This happens because you're trying to project a round surface onto a flat plane. When you're taking photos of the earth, the entire earth takes up 180+ degrees of the FOV, meaning that directly placing them onto a flat image will cause severe warping. Taking photos from farther away would mitigate this.
Simple as this, if Donald Trump becomes president, we are fucked
mitchcliff123Simple as this, if Donald Trump becomes president, we are fucked
I mean hillary wants to start a war with russia
edit to lessen minus frags? she wants to put a no fly zone in syria which to enforce would entail going to war with russia
I mean hillary wants to start a war with russia
edit to lessen minus frags? she wants to put a no fly zone in syria which to enforce would entail going to war with russia
if you think we're gonna end up in a true (non-cold) war with russia over assad in 2016, after about 70 years of various antagonistic actions towards pro-russian regimes in the middle east, I don't know what to tell you
i'd be a lot more worried with hillary killing a lot of innocent syrian civilians, or assad's removal leading to a power vacuum that isis wins, if anything
i'd be a lot more worried with hillary killing a lot of innocent syrian civilians, or assad's removal leading to a power vacuum that isis wins, if anything