bump cause of the 144hz thread. Personally i havent experienced any input delay if you set vsync in Nvidia panel to fast/adaptive. full fat vsync definitely feels fucking terrible

monitor: benq xl2411, no clue what variant it is, old af and bought around 2017-2018

For starters what is your TF2 environment (mods, hardware, OS, etc.)? Have you tried a clean install?

tried 224hz tonight and it was slightly less smooth but definitely super crisp and much better motion blur reduction, do the vsync things really help in tf2? haven't tried anything but just setting a custom res to 1920x1080 at 224hz not sure what things will help in this game vs others that are harder to run

The vsync thing will only help if your monitor doesn't have GSync or FreeSync.

https://i.imgur.com/f9y9APj.png

so if i'm using gsync will going through all this benefit me?

No you won't get the benefits of following OP's steps.

I recommend using GSync and capping your fps a few frames below your refresh rate. At 144hz you will want a 141fps cap (a 3fps differential). At low refresh rates (75Hz for example) you can use a differential of 1fps, but at 240hz you may want a bigger differential such as 5fps or 7fps. You should also enable VSync because when you're only using GSync + FPS Cap you will still have some tearing along the edges of your screen which VSync will fix.

Did the vertical total and frame cap tricks and it was actually very smooth and I found it slightly easier to kill scouts, will definitely stick with it for a bit and see if I still prefer it. Don't think you can do gsync with the strobing PureXP thing for my monitor but my frames were pretty consistent so it was good.

From some minor testing I'll keep this on for some scrims. Definately very smooth and no screentearing at all. I'm using benq xl2546 and capped the hz on 118.987. I don't really notice and input lag increase. I turned on fast sync in nvidia not sure if that had any impact. All in all thanks for the tip

I think you should try VSync instead because Fast Sync is meant for when you get at least 2x the fps of your refresh rate, but since you capped your fps below your refresh rate you don't get the benefit. Fast Sync may also suffers from pretty terrible frame pacing.

ah alright, thanks, will try regular VSync instead
edit: just tried it, with regular vsync the input lag is unbearable for me ;/

I've definitely been looking at this monitor myself, so I appreciate the posts about it.

Wait, I'm confused. Wasn't OP capable of using Freesync with his 5700 XT? If so, why not just use that rather than go through this RTSS/V-Sync stuff on a fixed refresh rate? Seems to me using G-Sync or Freesync on a VRR would be better. Or are you forced to use a fixed refresh rate in order to use PureXP? Asking because I'm actually getting this monitor tomorrow.

Can I benefit from this in any way if I'm using 75hz?

When you have PureXP enabled you can't use Gsync/FreeSync.

#43, you definitely can, older monitors in general benefit greatly from this.

#42 gsync/freesync with VRR is excellent if youre chasing both frames+clarity. His goal was maximum clarity which is why he reduced the resolution/hz down to eliminate interference between the pixels displayed/ing (crosstalk).

i recently picked up the S2522HG on its recent sale and decided that the additional smoothness/refresh rate beat out absolute clarity/crisp picture from creating a custom resolution. I take games too seriously tho so if i was to do more co-op/casual games more frequently i would absolutely make the change over.

How would I do this?, I could try decimals, ints (ingame cap, external cap), Nvidia control panel vsync and in-game's vsync, but I dont know for sure wich one would be the best for me and it seems like I would spent more time testing this than actual gaming.

https://blurbusters.com/howto-low-lag-vsync-on/

Follow that guide. If you're using an Nvidia card, use the FAST selection for vsync, and make sure fps_max 75 and mat_vsync 1 is in your autoexec

I will try this, Thank you.

Is there any comprehensive guide to do that ? Looking at all the responses it gets more and more confusing

that's as comprehensive as it gets, but you have to actually follow it. max_fps should be the next highest whole number from whatever you set RTSS at. (59.957 -> 60, 143.925 -> 144, etc.) Most problems people seem to be having with stuttering is probably stemming from not actually using RTSS or not getting a good/consistent # to work with from the ufo refresh test.

I'm not familiar with AMD but either on or fast. No half measures with adaptive or anything similar modes as it makes using RTSS to limit fps useless.

Just curious, why are you bothering to set max_fps at all if RTSS is capping your framerate anyway?

kind of a catch all, if you have a g/freesync compatible monitor it'll ensure you're at least not creating a larger frame buffer than necessary which introduces the crazy input lag. If you use Nvidia fast sync instead of regular/default vsync it might introduce some weird microstuttering if the fps is not capped to the rounded refresh rate.

RTSS + fast vsync just ensures you get the absolute most out of the technique, microstuttering is fixed with an in-game frame cap. Source engine and lithtech are the ones I've ran into so far where you needed said in-game cap.

Why the does said buffer cause stuttering? No fuckin clue

Have messed around with this for a week and I've found that the fps_max command consistently undercuts RTSS's. By that I mean, if you set RTSS at 240 fps, it will limit at that fps. If you set fps_max to 240, then TF2 will awkwardly jitter around 235 FPS or so, introducing more stuttering.

This v sync trick worked a lot better for me without an ingame FPS cap, only using RTSS's frame limiter.

I bought an XG270 like OP has but I'm really lost about achieving this 120hz backlight strobing + pureXP smooth gameplay everyone is raving about. I've read this thread and blurbusters forums a few times but I keep running up against my own technical illiteracy around monitors and GSYNC...

If I've got the XG270, RTX 2070, Ryzen 5 3600x, and 100-160 FPS in TF2, what are the applications and settings I need to get OP's setup? I can discern the fact my card is G-SYNC compatible means something different, but I don't know what.

I have Elite Display Controller and NVIDIA Control Panel both presenting me with the option to set my refresh rate, for example. EDC allows me to turn on PureXP, and GSYNC disappears from NCP depending on whether I have Adapted Sync enabled or not (I have to disable it to unlock PureXP settings).

8 months late and no clue if its still relavent, but what he is doing is setting the monitor refreshrate to 120 (more than likely 119.something, which is why he says it) and using Rivatuner (RTSS) to cap fps to (119.something - 0.01). Adaptive sync/gsync will not when manually setting monitor refreshrate, which is why gsync disappears from the control panel list. Capping fps to right at the monitors refresh rate removes excess frames which is what causes (most) of the input lag people talk about when using vsync. Large Vertical Total stuff, I can't make heads or tails of it just glancing through. GLHF if you take it on. Hopefully that helps anyone else that stumbles into this thread
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Bought a 32in' g7 like 6-7 months ago, had a 10900k w/ 3070ti w/ default gsync enabled and it worked like a charm, nothing much more to be wanted. now back down to a i5 6600 w/ 1060 6gb driving the same monitor lmao.

monitor rate set to 144hz, ULMB enabled, mat_vsync 1 (this actually matters), in Nvidia control panel i have low latency mode set to ULTRA and vsync set to FAST. Vsync on in game is required to benefit from using rtss, vsync fast in control panel alone seems to do nothing. BUT vsync fast vs on/"use application setting" makes a difference.

If you're just gaming buy a dell s2522hg or something around that area, this upgrade didn't make sense and still doesnt
IMO not going past 250$ budget wise until qd-oled/miniled/the cool new shit starts really coming out and in sensible sizes. if youre an arizona and interested in buying some tech msg me on steam ;) (not u elijah)