rulliezzzoneanother thing, during a scrim against kaylus team, rulliez killed lewdio, said 'kys' and called him a pedo, literally right in-front of kaylus' eyes.
another 10 iq moment by kaylus since he was forum-banning and muting people for calling rae a pedo in the midst of all the drama; this is on top of multiple people (including me) being warned for saying 'kys' mid-scrim, when we called kaylus out for having a full on aneurism and not doing anything, he told us to report to another admin.
(kaylus suck your mum x2)
HAHAHA unreal, my Badge bro didnt mean to cause trauma to u weasels but we up
i mean idrc about what u said to lewdio i'm just saying kaylus is a retard
[quote=rulliezzz][quote=one]another thing, during a scrim against kaylus team, rulliez killed lewdio, said 'kys' and called him a pedo, literally right in-front of kaylus' eyes.
another 10 iq moment by kaylus since he was forum-banning and muting people for calling rae a pedo in the midst of all the drama; this is on top of multiple people (including me) being warned for saying 'kys' mid-scrim, when we called kaylus out for having a full on aneurism and not doing anything, he told us to report to another admin.
(kaylus suck your mum x2)[/quote]
HAHAHA unreal, my Badge bro didnt mean to cause trauma to u weasels but we up[/quote]
i mean idrc about what u said to lewdio i'm just saying kaylus is a retard
I think the admins should be able to ban people if they're annoying or if it would be funny.
Society would be a better place if we admitted this was true.
I think the admins should be able to ban people if they're annoying or if it would be funny.
Society would be a better place if we admitted this was true.
Lets solve this after round10 of div1 highlander official Fresh pills vs Fnatic please.
Lets solve this after round10 of div1 highlander official Fresh pills vs Fnatic please.
onerulliezzzoneanother thing, during a scrim against kaylus team, rulliez killed lewdio, said 'kys' and called him a pedo, literally right in-front of kaylus' eyes.
another 10 iq moment by kaylus since he was forum-banning and muting people for calling rae a pedo in the midst of all the drama; this is on top of multiple people (including me) being warned for saying 'kys' mid-scrim, when we called kaylus out for having a full on aneurism and not doing anything, he told us to report to another admin.
(kaylus suck your mum x2)
HAHAHA unreal, my Badge bro didnt mean to cause trauma to u weasels but we up
i mean idrc about what u said to lewdio i'm just saying kaylus is a retard
onerulliezzzoneanother thing, during a scrim against kaylus team, rulliez killed lewdio, said 'kys' and called him a pedo, literally right in-front of kaylus' eyes.
another 10 iq moment by kaylus since he was forum-banning and muting people for calling rae a pedo in the midst of all the drama; this is on top of multiple people (including me) being warned for saying 'kys' mid-scrim, when we called kaylus out for having a full on aneurism and not doing anything, he told us to report to another admin.
(kaylus suck your mum x2)
HAHAHA unreal, my Badge bro didnt mean to cause trauma to u weasels but we up
i mean idrc about what u said to lewdio i'm just saying kaylus is a retard
oh yeah actually my Badge then sry
[quote=one][quote=rulliezzz][quote=one]another thing, during a scrim against kaylus team, rulliez killed lewdio, said 'kys' and called him a pedo, literally right in-front of kaylus' eyes.
another 10 iq moment by kaylus since he was forum-banning and muting people for calling rae a pedo in the midst of all the drama; this is on top of multiple people (including me) being warned for saying 'kys' mid-scrim, when we called kaylus out for having a full on aneurism and not doing anything, he told us to report to another admin.
(kaylus suck your mum x2)[/quote]
HAHAHA unreal, my Badge bro didnt mean to cause trauma to u weasels but we up[/quote]
i mean idrc about what u said to lewdio i'm just saying kaylus is a retard[/quote]
[quote=one][quote=rulliezzz][quote=one]another thing, during a scrim against kaylus team, rulliez killed lewdio, said 'kys' and called him a pedo, literally right in-front of kaylus' eyes.
another 10 iq moment by kaylus since he was forum-banning and muting people for calling rae a pedo in the midst of all the drama; this is on top of multiple people (including me) being warned for saying 'kys' mid-scrim, when we called kaylus out for having a full on aneurism and not doing anything, he told us to report to another admin.
(kaylus suck your mum x2)[/quote]
HAHAHA unreal, my Badge bro didnt mean to cause trauma to u weasels but we up[/quote]
i mean idrc about what u said to lewdio i'm just saying kaylus is a retard[/quote]
oh yeah actually my Badge then sry
Admins (kaylus in particular) have handed out bans/been wanting to hand out bans for dumber reasons in the past. Found this old pastebin of Hugo arguing with kaylus because he wanted to ban my entire team for not trying their absolute hardest in a game of highlander (lol) when there are numerous examples of teams taking the piss against other teams not being punished whatsoever
https://pastebin.com/rHfV6Zci
Hard to take most non anti-cheat related bans seriously when people like Middle get banned for killbinding mid offi as a joke. Not sure what goes on in the heads of league admins sometimes (AC admins doing god's work though)
https://www.teamfortress.tv/59937/included-middle-ban
Admins (kaylus in particular) have handed out bans/been wanting to hand out bans for dumber reasons in the past. Found this old pastebin of Hugo arguing with kaylus because he wanted to ban my entire team for not trying their absolute hardest in a game of highlander (lol) when there are numerous examples of teams taking the piss against other teams not being punished whatsoever
https://pastebin.com/rHfV6Zci
Hard to take most non anti-cheat related bans seriously when people like Middle get banned for killbinding mid offi as a joke. Not sure what goes on in the heads of league admins sometimes (AC admins doing god's work though)
https://www.teamfortress.tv/59937/included-middle-ban
Just pay attention what you write down, might they (kaylus) use it against you.
Just pay attention what you write down, might they (kaylus) use it against you.
ZestyI think the admins should be able to ban people if they're annoying or if it would be funny.
Society would be a better place if we admitted this was true.
yo is that zesty jesus
[quote=Zesty]I think the admins should be able to ban people if they're annoying or if it would be funny.
Society would be a better place if we admitted this was true.[/quote]
yo is that zesty jesus
AdjeAdmins (kaylus in particular) have handed out bans/been wanting to hand out bans for dumber reasons in the past. Found this old pastebin of Hugo arguing with kaylus because he wanted to ban my entire team for not trying their absolute hardest in a game of highlander (lol) when there are numerous examples of teams taking the piss against other teams not being punished whatsoever
https://pastebin.com/rHfV6Zci
(from the pastebin)
[16:11]
Ascent Hugo:
ok so i actually found another instance
of a team trolling in an official
in prem vs the best team
https://logs.tf/2491744
so can you explain why they arent getting punished
https://logs.tf/2491744
Leth offclassing attempting to carry 5 dead weights years before fondling flicks balls at rcadia, holy moly.
[quote=Adje]Admins (kaylus in particular) have handed out bans/been wanting to hand out bans for dumber reasons in the past. Found this old pastebin of Hugo arguing with kaylus because he wanted to ban my entire team for not trying their absolute hardest in a game of highlander (lol) when there are numerous examples of teams taking the piss against other teams not being punished whatsoever
https://pastebin.com/rHfV6Zci[/quote]
(from the pastebin)
[quote][16:11]
Ascent Hugo:
ok so i actually found another instance
of a team trolling in an official
in prem vs the best team
https://logs.tf/2491744
so can you explain why they arent getting punished
[/quote]
https://logs.tf/2491744
Leth offclassing attempting to carry 5 dead weights years before fondling flicks balls at rcadia, holy moly.
after looking at your fucking twitter account you need to be put in solitary confinement in the cruelest dungeons of count dracula, not banned on etf2l
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after looking at your fucking twitter account you need to be put in solitary confinement in the cruelest dungeons of count dracula, not banned on etf2l
[spoiler]https://twitter.com/wicc26[/spoiler]
click at your peril
torritafter looking at your fucking twitter account you need to be put in solitary confinement in the cruelest dungeons of count dracula, not banned on etf2l
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click at your peril
https://imgur.com/a/jCEuGoP
[quote=torrit]after looking at your fucking twitter account you need to be put in solitary confinement in the cruelest dungeons of count dracula, not banned on etf2l
[spoiler]https://twitter.com/wicc26[/spoiler]
click at your peril[/quote]
https://imgur.com/a/jCEuGoP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXEM07obq1M
Whipall Romanians should be preemptively banned to protect the rest to ETF2L
most hungarian scott
[quote=Whip]all Romanians should be preemptively banned to protect the rest to ETF2L[/quote]
most hungarian scott
[quote=torrit][/quote]
this you?
[img]https://i.imgur.com/UoNlbQK.png[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/1mDG0ok.png[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/PyQDrgX.png[/img]
[quote=Chris___________][quote=torrit][/quote]
this you?
[img]https://i.imgur.com/UoNlbQK.png[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/1mDG0ok.png[/img]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/PyQDrgX.png[/img][/quote]
GG
I can't really speak for Kaylus or ETF2L or the history and I do lack a lot of context, but it is very curious that a guy got a 2 year ban after never being banned before for anything (at least his team history page does not show multiple instances of being removed by ETF2L staff) so for that to be justified you had to have had multiple warnings and probably a couple of bans already or done/said some fucked up shit like doxxing someone or really being vile/threatening with threats of violence so yeah what did Wicc do? There used to be some sort of system of warnings and ban lengths in the league to stop dramatic stuff like occuring, has that disappeared?
I get the feeling this is easily resolved issue by reducing the ban or posting evidence to support the fact severity of a 2 year ban is justified, this isn't an AC case so what is there to hide?
Also whilst we're on the subject of ETF2L, can we revise the off-class rule, it is a very bizarre rule to see players banned from playing Engineer in Mid in 6v6 because they played Prem HL. Maybe make the point system more flexible for non-cookie cutter classes, then that way actual Open/Low players won't be sandbagged still but Div 2 HL players can still enjoy Sniping or playing Engi/Pyro/Pootis/Spy in Mid in 6v6. I complained pre-season about the rule and there was no real satisfactory response, I kind of gave up because at the end of the day majority of the League admins are Open/Low 6v6 players unwilling to acknowledge the logic that a Prem HL Engineer in 6s in Mid is not an unfair edge.
That admin team could do with a few Higher level players on it in my opinion.
I can't really speak for Kaylus or ETF2L or the history and I do lack a lot of context, but it is very curious that a guy got a 2 year ban after never being banned before for anything (at least his team history page does not show multiple instances of being removed by ETF2L staff) so for that to be justified you had to have had multiple warnings and probably a couple of bans already or done/said some fucked up shit like doxxing someone or really being vile/threatening with threats of violence so yeah what did Wicc do? There used to be some sort of system of warnings and ban lengths in the league to stop dramatic stuff like occuring, has that disappeared?
I get the feeling this is easily resolved issue by reducing the ban or posting evidence to support the fact severity of a 2 year ban is justified, this isn't an AC case so what is there to hide?
Also whilst we're on the subject of ETF2L, can we revise the off-class rule, it is a very bizarre rule to see players banned from playing Engineer in Mid in 6v6 because they played Prem HL. Maybe make the point system more flexible for non-cookie cutter classes, then that way actual Open/Low players won't be sandbagged still but Div 2 HL players can still enjoy Sniping or playing Engi/Pyro/Pootis/Spy in Mid in 6v6. I complained pre-season about the rule and there was no real satisfactory response, I kind of gave up because at the end of the day majority of the League admins are Open/Low 6v6 players unwilling to acknowledge the logic that a Prem HL Engineer in 6s in Mid is not an unfair edge.
That admin team could do with a few Higher level players on it in my opinion.
AdjeAdmins (kaylus in particular) have handed out bans/been wanting to hand out bans for dumber reasons in the past. Found this old pastebin of Hugo arguing with kaylus because he wanted to ban my entire team for not trying their absolute hardest in a game of highlander (lol) when there are numerous examples of teams taking the piss against other teams not being punished whatsoever
https://pastebin.com/rHfV6Zci
Hard to take most non anti-cheat related bans seriously when people like Middle get banned for killbinding mid offi as a joke. Not sure what goes on in the heads of league admins sometimes (AC admins doing god's work though)
https://www.teamfortress.tv/59937/included-middle-ban
The original purpose of the "don't throw officials" was around the time Saloon.tf was becoming a thing, and I believe the league was still trying to attract potential sponsors at the time, so it was mainly a rule about trying to prevent match fixing more than anything else and uphold some kind of....professionalism? So in my view if teams want to off-class and get rolled that's their perogative. I think somewhere along the way Admins looked at the rules and forgot the original purpose of why they exist, a good exercise for them would be to re-check the rules and see if they are fit for purpose.
If saloon.tf or betting items isn't really a thing anymore there is no purpose of the rule unless you really care about the integrity factor, but in a league where you can literally give opponents a default win if you don't want to play them and give a free 6 points to a team you could have taken points from and muddle the standings up, then I don't see the point. If a team wants to throw a match they can give a default win or they can play for 1 hour and get rolled and maybe have a bit of fun on the way.
[quote=Adje]Admins (kaylus in particular) have handed out bans/been wanting to hand out bans for dumber reasons in the past. Found this old pastebin of Hugo arguing with kaylus because he wanted to ban my entire team for not trying their absolute hardest in a game of highlander (lol) when there are numerous examples of teams taking the piss against other teams not being punished whatsoever
https://pastebin.com/rHfV6Zci
Hard to take most non anti-cheat related bans seriously when people like Middle get banned for killbinding mid offi as a joke. Not sure what goes on in the heads of league admins sometimes (AC admins doing god's work though)
https://www.teamfortress.tv/59937/included-middle-ban[/quote]
The original purpose of the "don't throw officials" was around the time Saloon.tf was becoming a thing, and I believe the league was still trying to attract potential sponsors at the time, so it was mainly a rule about trying to prevent match fixing more than anything else and uphold some kind of....professionalism? So in my view if teams want to off-class and get rolled that's their perogative. I think somewhere along the way Admins looked at the rules and forgot the original purpose of why they exist, a good exercise for them would be to re-check the rules and see if they are fit for purpose.
If saloon.tf or betting items isn't really a thing anymore there is no purpose of the rule unless you really care about the integrity factor, but in a league where you can literally give opponents a default win if you don't want to play them and give a free 6 points to a team you could have taken points from and muddle the standings up, then I don't see the point. If a team wants to throw a match they can give a default win or they can play for 1 hour and get rolled and maybe have a bit of fun on the way.
HildrethAlso whilst we're on the subject of ETF2L, can we revise the off-class rule, it is a very bizarre rule to see players banned from playing Engineer in Mid in 6v6 because they played Prem HL. Maybe make the point system more flexible for non-cookie cutter classes, then that way actual Open/Low players won't be sandbagged still but Div 2 HL players can still enjoy Sniping or playing Engi/Pyro/Pootis/Spy in Mid in 6v6. I complained pre-season about the rule and there was no real satisfactory response, I kind of gave up because at the end of the day majority of the League admins are Open/Low 6v6 players unwilling to acknowledge the logic that a Prem HL Engineer in 6s in Mid is not an unfair edge.
That admin team could do with a few Higher level players on it in my opinion.
if we are discussing rules, one of the fresh meat challenge rules is a bit unclear
"Played in ETF2L Open playoffs or above.This does not include cups.'"
I thought it meant that if a player who's on a team played open playoffs would not be able to play, but apparently it also includes a player who had 0 officials up until he was asked to merc in open grand finals, other than that he only played in regional pickups and didn't play on any teams.
seems unfair to exclude someone who only merced in one playoff game because the team he merced for was missing a player.
[quote=Hildreth]
Also whilst we're on the subject of ETF2L, can we revise the off-class rule, it is a very bizarre rule to see players banned from playing Engineer in Mid in 6v6 because they played Prem HL. Maybe make the point system more flexible for non-cookie cutter classes, then that way actual Open/Low players won't be sandbagged still but Div 2 HL players can still enjoy Sniping or playing Engi/Pyro/Pootis/Spy in Mid in 6v6. I complained pre-season about the rule and there was no real satisfactory response, I kind of gave up because at the end of the day majority of the League admins are Open/Low 6v6 players unwilling to acknowledge the logic that a Prem HL Engineer in 6s in Mid is not an unfair edge.
That admin team could do with a few Higher level players on it in my opinion.[/quote]
if we are discussing rules, one of the fresh meat challenge rules is a bit unclear
"Played in ETF2L Open playoffs or above.This does not include cups.'"
I thought it meant that if a player who's on a team played open playoffs would not be able to play, but apparently it also includes a player who had 0 officials up until he was asked to merc in open grand finals, other than that he only played in regional pickups and didn't play on any teams.
seems unfair to exclude someone who only merced in one playoff game because the team he merced for was missing a player.
Today they fuck me tomorrow they fuck you...
Today they fuck me tomorrow they fuck you...
Anyone know why catman's youtube got deleted?
Anyone know why catman's youtube got deleted?
HildrethI get the feeling this is easily resolved issue by reducing the ban or posting evidence to support the fact severity of a 2 year ban is justified, this isn't an AC case so what is there to hide?
Also whilst we're on the subject of ETF2L, can we revise the off-class rule, it is a very bizarre rule to see players banned from playing Engineer in Mid in 6v6 because they played Prem HL.
That admin team could do with a few Higher level players on it in my opinion.
Mostly agree with all 3 of these but the last one isn't really something the current team can push for, if high level players want to apply and be unbiased then they can but noone really wants to since they would rather play.
I would still limit snipers from HL when playing in lower divs because people don't know how to play around it and it takes a long time to learn. It's also hilariously unfun for all other 11 people on the server. Shit like engy, heavy, pyro or spy is insane that it's limited.
Leak what wicc did for a 2 year ban pls, if it was truly bad enough then it doesn't matter if their mentally unstable friends forgave them since they could end up doing it again to someone else if there would be no repercussions.
[quote=Hildreth]
I get the feeling this is easily resolved issue by reducing the ban or posting evidence to support the fact severity of a 2 year ban is justified, this isn't an AC case so what is there to hide?
Also whilst we're on the subject of ETF2L, can we revise the off-class rule, it is a very bizarre rule to see players banned from playing Engineer in Mid in 6v6 because they played Prem HL.
That admin team could do with a few Higher level players on it in my opinion.[/quote]
Mostly agree with all 3 of these but the last one isn't really something the current team can push for, if high level players want to apply and be unbiased then they can but noone really wants to since they would rather play.
I would still limit snipers from HL when playing in lower divs because people don't know how to play around it and it takes a long time to learn. It's also hilariously unfun for all other 11 people on the server. Shit like engy, heavy, pyro or spy is insane that it's limited.
Leak what wicc did for a 2 year ban pls, if it was truly bad enough then it doesn't matter if their mentally unstable friends forgave them since they could end up doing it again to someone else if there would be no repercussions.
Phnxif we are discussing rules, one of the fresh meat challenge rules is a bit unclear
"Played in ETF2L Open playoffs or above.This does not include cups.'"
I thought it meant that if a player who's on a team played open playoffs would not be able to play, but apparently it also includes a player who had 0 officials up until he was asked to merc in open grand finals, other than that he only played in regional pickups and didn't play on any teams.
seems unfair to exclude someone who only merced in one playoff game because the team he merced for was missing a player.
get ur own thread bro
[quote=Phnx]
if we are discussing rules, one of the fresh meat challenge rules is a bit unclear
"Played in ETF2L Open playoffs or above.This does not include cups.'"
I thought it meant that if a player who's on a team played open playoffs would not be able to play, but apparently it also includes a player who had 0 officials up until he was asked to merc in open grand finals, other than that he only played in regional pickups and didn't play on any teams.
seems unfair to exclude someone who only merced in one playoff game because the team he merced for was missing a player.[/quote]
get ur own thread bro
DoughyLeak what wicc did for a 2 year ban pls, if it was truly bad enough then it doesn't matter if their mentally unstable friends forgave them since they could end up doing it again to someone else if there would be no repercussions.
Makes me wonder why what wicc actually said is omitted in the OP and in their replies. Personally, if I felt like what I said shouldn't warrant a ban I would have no shame telling everyone what it was.
(But I still agree with other posters about admin professionalism etc.)
[quote=Doughy]Leak what wicc did for a 2 year ban pls, if it was truly bad enough then it doesn't matter if their mentally unstable friends forgave them since they could end up doing it again to someone else if there would be no repercussions.[/quote] Makes me wonder why what wicc actually said is omitted in the OP and in their replies. Personally, if I felt like what I said shouldn't warrant a ban I would have no shame telling everyone what it was.
(But I still agree with other posters about admin professionalism etc.)
CollaideDoughyLeak what wicc did for a 2 year ban pls, if it was truly bad enough then it doesn't matter if their mentally unstable friends forgave them since they could end up doing it again to someone else if there would be no repercussions.
Makes me wonder why what wicc actually said is omitted in the OP and in their replies. Personally, if I felt like what I said shouldn't warrant a ban I would have no shame telling everyone what it was.
(But I still agree with other posters about admin professionalism etc.)
I am still not aware of what chats were sent since I'm still being ignored in the ETF2L ticket but I've asked about it 2 days ago and as far as I know it was a mixture of me asking for attention and horny chats.
Image of our DM's talking about this: https://i.imgur.com/DKvoGyf.png
[quote=Collaide][quote=Doughy]Leak what wicc did for a 2 year ban pls, if it was truly bad enough then it doesn't matter if their mentally unstable friends forgave them since they could end up doing it again to someone else if there would be no repercussions.[/quote] Makes me wonder why what wicc actually said is omitted in the OP and in their replies. Personally, if I felt like what I said shouldn't warrant a ban I would have no shame telling everyone what it was.
(But I still agree with other posters about admin professionalism etc.)[/quote]
I am still not aware of what chats were sent since I'm still being ignored in the ETF2L ticket but I've asked about it 2 days ago and as far as I know it was a mixture of me asking for attention and horny chats.
Image of our DM's talking about this: https://i.imgur.com/DKvoGyf.png
it's never normal people who make these threads
it's never normal people who make these threads
This is like when a small, suppressed power hungry person abuse his "power" on a dead game's site. Well done! More pussy for me ;)
This is like when a small, suppressed power hungry person abuse his "power" on a dead game's site. Well done! More pussy for me ;)
big brother is watching. no one think anything anti-tf2 or else we'll all get banned
big brother is watching. no one think anything anti-tf2 or else we'll all get banned
classic kaylus, some things never change
classic kaylus, some things never change