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get this post to 50 upvotes and we cut him for posting that
get this post to 50 upvotes and we cut him for posting that
Matches from now on will get scheduled as soon as the matches for the current week get played (barring any reschedules to later weeks, if that's the case matches will still get pushed assuming the match is not important for seeding). This is pretty simple for us to do and I'll do better about staying on top of it for the rest of the season (there is really no excuse not to lol). Typically matches go out on Saturdays but it's actually easier to prioritize divs to get matches out ASAP.
If you are curious about how matches are selected, advanced (as well as every div below it) is currently a swiss system that prioritizes avoiding rematches for as long as possible so it benefits the algorithm to wait for as many matches as possible to be played before matches are created/posted. Idk anything about the specifics of the algorithm but this is my base understanding, exa and dubthink understand more. Hope this makes it easier for teams to prepare/schedule, feel free to message me if I am slow at getting matches out with camper.
Matches for this upcoming week should be out now :)!
Matches from now on will get scheduled as soon as the matches for the current week get played (barring any reschedules to later weeks, if that's the case matches will still get pushed assuming the match is not important for seeding). This is pretty simple for us to do and I'll do better about staying on top of it for the rest of the season (there is really no excuse not to lol). Typically matches go out on Saturdays but it's actually easier to prioritize divs to get matches out ASAP.
If you are curious about how matches are selected, advanced (as well as every div below it) is currently a swiss system that prioritizes avoiding rematches for as long as possible so it benefits the algorithm to wait for as many matches as possible to be played before matches are created/posted. Idk anything about the specifics of the algorithm but this is my base understanding, exa and dubthink understand more. Hope this makes it easier for teams to prepare/schedule, feel free to message me if I am slow at getting matches out with camper.
Matches for this upcoming week should be out now :)!
If you are curious about how matches are selected, advanced (as well as every div below it) is currently a swiss system that prioritizes avoiding rematches for as long as possible so it benefits the algorithm to wait for as many matches as possible to be played before matches are created/posted. Idk anything about the specifics of the algorithm but this is my base understanding, exa and dubthink understand more. Hope this makes it easier for teams to prepare/schedule, feel free to message me if I am slow at getting matches out with camper.
Matches for this upcoming week should be out now :)!
i know there's already a separate thread about it and i dont want to just drag all that over here but why the fuck is an obvious cheater allowed to play? former admins on the roster too its pretty fucking shameful to see this dude coasting under the radar
i know there's already a separate thread about it and i dont want to just drag all that over here but why the fuck is an [url=https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198157598657&r=40]obvious cheater[/url] allowed to play? former admins on the roster too its pretty fucking shameful to see this dude coasting under the radar
CAN RGL START FORCING TEAMS TO BAN MAPS FASTER AND NOT 2 MINUTES BEFORE THE MATCH IS HAPPENING? THANKS [RGL PLAYER ASSOSICATION]
CAN RGL START FORCING TEAMS TO BAN MAPS FASTER AND NOT 2 MINUTES BEFORE THE MATCH IS HAPPENING? THANKS [RGL PLAYER ASSOSICATION]
GuyehhhhCAN RGL START FORCING TEAMS TO BAN MAPS FASTER AND NOT 2 MINUTES BEFORE THE MATCH IS HAPPENING? THANKS [RGL PLAYER ASSOSICATION]
If teams are being cringe and not picking until the last second 100% open a ticket and submit a veto (assuming you have attempted to contact them). Don't be afraid to request vetoes, if teams are being untimely they should be punished in some way, but that's not something I'm going to be going into 15 team leaders dms about lmfao. It's not a scumbag thing to do given matches take time to prep for in scrims, this is the most reasonable way to get teams to be better about getting their bans in on time. 36 hours gets you their first ban and 24 hours gets your team the map pick. The rule linked below is linked on every single RGL match page that goes out in both invite and advanced.
https://docs.rgl.gg/rules/sixes/3003/#3003_2-regular-season-pick-bans
[quote=Guyehhhh]CAN RGL START FORCING TEAMS TO BAN MAPS FASTER AND NOT 2 MINUTES BEFORE THE MATCH IS HAPPENING? THANKS [RGL PLAYER ASSOSICATION][/quote]
If teams are being cringe and not picking until the last second 100% open a ticket and submit a veto (assuming you have attempted to contact them). Don't be afraid to request vetoes, if teams are being untimely they should be punished in some way, but that's not something I'm going to be going into 15 team leaders dms about lmfao. It's not a scumbag thing to do given matches take time to prep for in scrims, this is the most reasonable way to get teams to be better about getting their bans in on time. 36 hours gets you their first ban and 24 hours gets your team the map pick. The rule linked below is linked on every single RGL match page that goes out in both invite and advanced.
https://docs.rgl.gg/rules/sixes/3003/#3003_2-regular-season-pick-bans
If teams are being cringe and not picking until the last second 100% open a ticket and submit a veto (assuming you have attempted to contact them). Don't be afraid to request vetoes, if teams are being untimely they should be punished in some way, but that's not something I'm going to be going into 15 team leaders dms about lmfao. It's not a scumbag thing to do given matches take time to prep for in scrims, this is the most reasonable way to get teams to be better about getting their bans in on time. 36 hours gets you their first ban and 24 hours gets your team the map pick. The rule linked below is linked on every single RGL match page that goes out in both invite and advanced.
https://docs.rgl.gg/rules/sixes/3003/#3003_2-regular-season-pick-bans
Scream36 hours gets you their first ban and 24 hours gets your team the map pick.
Ok but what about the days the matches are announced like a day before, where 36 hours isn't even possible.
[quote=Scream]36 hours gets you their first ban and 24 hours gets your team the map pick. [/quote]
Ok but what about the days the matches are announced like a day before, where 36 hours isn't even possible.
Ok but what about the days the matches are announced like a day before, where 36 hours isn't even possible.
chellScream36 hours gets you their first ban and 24 hours gets your team the map pick.Ok but what about the days the matches are announced like a day before, where 36 hours isn't even possible.
Matches should never get pushed out that late again, if they do for whatever circumstance (if a playoffs deciding match needs to be played, for example) tuesday's enforcement of that rule will get waived. If they are getting pushed late for whatever reason I'll post here and message TLs so people know.
[quote=chell][quote=Scream]36 hours gets you their first ban and 24 hours gets your team the map pick. [/quote]
Ok but what about the days the matches are announced like a day before, where 36 hours isn't even possible.[/quote]
Matches should never get pushed out that late again, if they do for whatever circumstance (if a playoffs deciding match needs to be played, for example) tuesday's enforcement of that rule will get waived. If they are getting pushed late for whatever reason I'll post here and message TLs so people know.
Ok but what about the days the matches are announced like a day before, where 36 hours isn't even possible.[/quote]
Matches should never get pushed out that late again, if they do for whatever circumstance (if a playoffs deciding match needs to be played, for example) tuesday's enforcement of that rule will get waived. If they are getting pushed late for whatever reason I'll post here and message TLs so people know.
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Big thanks to wang for agreeing to play tonight despite slice's debilitating illness, good looks guys
Big thanks to wang for agreeing to play tonight despite slice's debilitating illness, good looks guys
GritomaBig thanks to wang for agreeing to play tonight despite slice's debilitating illness, good looks guys
bearodactylget this post to 50 upvotes and we cut him for posting that
You know what to do...
[quote=Gritoma]Big thanks to wang for agreeing to play tonight despite slice's debilitating illness, good looks guys[/quote]
[quote=bearodactyl]get this post to 50 upvotes and we cut him for posting that[/quote]
You know what to do...
[quote=bearodactyl]get this post to 50 upvotes and we cut him for posting that[/quote]
You know what to do...
HELLO! I know a lot of people browse on here periodically so I figure a general post here would be effective. TLs, along with demo requests for week 5 is going to come a message/poll for advanced having weekend playoffs, as that seems to be what everyone prefers. The tentative dates are either July 15th-16th OR July 29th-30th (both Saturday/Sunday) as to avoid interfering with invite playoffs. Every team leader will be polled, so please discuss with your players to find out what dates work best for your team. Because the dates are on a weekend and people need time to plan, it's likely that we will decide the date by the end of Week 6 (Sunday, July 2nd) so please be ready to respond ASAP.
Matches should be out tomorrow, please message me with any questions or concerns!
HELLO! I know a lot of people browse on here periodically so I figure a general post here would be effective. TLs, along with demo requests for week 5 is going to come a message/poll for advanced having weekend playoffs, as that seems to be what everyone prefers. The tentative dates are either [b]July 15th-16th[/b] OR [b]July 29th-30th[/b] (both Saturday/Sunday) as to avoid interfering with invite playoffs. Every team leader will be polled, so please discuss with your players to find out what dates work best for your team. Because the dates are on a weekend and people need time to plan, it's likely that we will decide the date by the end of Week 6 (Sunday, July 2nd) so please be ready to respond ASAP.
Matches should be out tomorrow, please message me with any questions or concerns!
Matches should be out tomorrow, please message me with any questions or concerns!
losers never lose in peace......
losers never lose in peace......
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Due to schedules not working out with the potential playoffs teams weekend playoffs is very unlikely to happen this season. However, I'll still be offering to create matches as soon as each respective round of the double elim is played, so playoffs teams will be welcome to try and coordinate something that works best for them (and hopefully finish playoffs within a week or so). Next season I'll aim to set the weekend for playoffs before the season begins so players have ample time to schedule around it.
Week 7 demo requests will be out after all (week 7) matches are played next week. There will be a HARD DEADLINE of Saturday, July 15th 11:59 PM est for all demos including week 5 (this will be included in the message to your team leader). I've been fairly flexible on the time constraints but this deadline is non-negotiable since standings have to be finalized over the weekend.
As always reach out with any questions y'all have, demo requests will be out no later than next Thursday afternoon.
Due to schedules not working out with the potential playoffs teams weekend playoffs is very unlikely to happen this season. However, I'll still be offering to create matches as soon as each respective round of the double elim is played, so playoffs teams will be welcome to try and coordinate something that works best for them (and hopefully finish playoffs within a week or so). Next season I'll aim to set the weekend for playoffs before the season begins so players have ample time to schedule around it.
Week 7 demo requests will be out after all (week 7) matches are played next week. There will be a [u][b]HARD DEADLINE[/b][/u] of [u][b]Saturday, July 15th 11:59 PM est[/b][/u] for all demos including week 5 (this will be included in the message to your team leader). I've been fairly flexible on the time constraints but this deadline is non-negotiable since standings have to be finalized over the weekend.
As always reach out with any questions y'all have, demo requests will be out no later than next Thursday afternoon.
Week 7 demo requests will be out after all (week 7) matches are played next week. There will be a [u][b]HARD DEADLINE[/b][/u] of [u][b]Saturday, July 15th 11:59 PM est[/b][/u] for all demos including week 5 (this will be included in the message to your team leader). I've been fairly flexible on the time constraints but this deadline is non-negotiable since standings have to be finalized over the weekend.
As always reach out with any questions y'all have, demo requests will be out no later than next Thursday afternoon.
Season 12 Playoffs Details are Live!
Like Scream mentioned, the dates listed here are what we'd hoped could work out in some fashion for this current Season 12. It is new and we can play it by ear. Do your best to work with us and your opponents.
[u][b]Season 12 Playoffs Details are Live![/b][/u]
[url=https://rgl.gg/Public/Articles/Default.aspx?a=1689]Here[/url] and [url=https://forums.rgl.gg/topic/3162/rgl-6s-season-12-playoffs-announcement]here[/url].
Like Scream mentioned, the dates listed here are what we'd [i]hoped[/i] could work out in some fashion for this current Season 12. It is new and we can play it by ear. Do your best to work with us and your opponents.
[url=https://rgl.gg/Public/Articles/Default.aspx?a=1689]Here[/url] and [url=https://forums.rgl.gg/topic/3162/rgl-6s-season-12-playoffs-announcement]here[/url].
Like Scream mentioned, the dates listed here are what we'd [i]hoped[/i] could work out in some fashion for this current Season 12. It is new and we can play it by ear. Do your best to work with us and your opponents.
big news everyone, I'm gonna hit 200 hours today
big news everyone, I'm gonna hit 200 hours today
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hi goblin zone player here. rgl admins care to explain why my team got booted out of playoffs because the team a seed above us got a legitimately easier schedule than us ? thank god my team had to play the 1st and 2nd seed teams 4 times in total and they only had to play them twice, got a forfeit AND got a bye week!
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hi goblin zone player here. rgl admins care to explain why my team got booted out of playoffs because the team a seed above us got a legitimately easier schedule than us ? thank god my team had to play the 1st and 2nd seed teams 4 times in total and they only had to play them twice, got a forfeit AND got a bye week!
[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/607681065678798848/1129254334157303958/combinedschedules.png[/img]
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ggs everyone
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ggs everyone
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crazy
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MV19efzlWwrCvZ7ZtFgPOfQGHkS_4IEd/view?usp=sharing
Make sure to download it to read it it's a mess in google drive preview lol.
Here is the entire ticket that you opened and had access too. I think we did an okay job of explaining what the issue was, and in the future it is imperative that it is standard that teams in the 4/bubble playoff spots have rematches if they are this close. Going to have to throw this in the rulebook and make this standard going forward, as was explained in the ticket. Acting like this was the only reason why your team did not make playoffs is also somewhat disingenuous.
Tl;dr from the ticket, the scheduler goes a little haywire with lower team counts and when matches get pushed from week to week.
[quote=crazy][/quote]
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MV19efzlWwrCvZ7ZtFgPOfQGHkS_4IEd/view?usp=sharing
Make sure to download it to read it it's a mess in google drive preview lol.
Here is the entire ticket that you opened and had access too. I think we did an okay job of explaining what the issue was, and in the future it is imperative that it is standard that teams in the 4/bubble playoff spots have rematches if they are this close. Going to have to throw this in the rulebook and make this standard going forward, as was explained in the ticket. Acting like this was the only reason why your team did not make playoffs is also somewhat disingenuous.
Tl;dr from the ticket, the scheduler goes a little haywire with lower team counts and when matches get pushed from week to week.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MV19efzlWwrCvZ7ZtFgPOfQGHkS_4IEd/view?usp=sharing
Make sure to download it to read it it's a mess in google drive preview lol.
Here is the entire ticket that you opened and had access too. I think we did an okay job of explaining what the issue was, and in the future it is imperative that it is standard that teams in the 4/bubble playoff spots have rematches if they are this close. Going to have to throw this in the rulebook and make this standard going forward, as was explained in the ticket. Acting like this was the only reason why your team did not make playoffs is also somewhat disingenuous.
Tl;dr from the ticket, the scheduler goes a little haywire with lower team counts and when matches get pushed from week to week.
ScreamcrazyActing like this was the only reason why your team did not make playoffs is also somewhat disingenuous.
.
Giving GZ a BYE round or a rematch against any team that is not in the top two instead of one of those two rematch losses almost certainly changes the seeding, meaning that it quite literally is the reason we did not make playoffs.
Do not go around saying crazy is not being candid when he is just pointing out the obvious.
[quote=Scream][quote=crazy][/quote]
Acting like this was the only reason why your team did not make playoffs is also somewhat disingenuous.
.[/quote]
Giving GZ a BYE round or a rematch against any team that is not in the top two instead of one of those two rematch losses almost certainly changes the seeding, meaning that it quite literally is the reason we did not make playoffs.
Do not go around saying crazy is not being candid when he is just pointing out the obvious.
Acting like this was the only reason why your team did not make playoffs is also somewhat disingenuous.
.[/quote]
Giving GZ a BYE round or a rematch against any team that is not in the top two instead of one of those two rematch losses almost certainly changes the seeding, meaning that it quite literally is the reason we did not make playoffs.
Do not go around saying crazy is not being candid when he is just pointing out the obvious.
Of course if you have another reason besides the scheduling that we would not make playoffs feel free to let me know.
And from reading the ticket, all I see is that you say
screamOverall I think it's too much trouble to go through
about the solution to the problem that you said was reasonable.
Of course if you have another reason besides the scheduling that we would not make playoffs feel free to let me know.
And from reading the ticket, all I see is that you say [quote=scream]Overall I think it's too much trouble to go through[/quote] about the solution to the problem that you said was reasonable.
And from reading the ticket, all I see is that you say [quote=scream]Overall I think it's too much trouble to go through[/quote] about the solution to the problem that you said was reasonable.
starkaOf course if you have another reason besides the scheduling that we would not make playoffs feel free to let me know.
Because you lost, that is why you did not make playoffs. If you won you would have enough points to get in :)
[quote=starka]Of course if you have another reason besides the scheduling that we would not make playoffs feel free to let me know.[/quote]
Because you lost, that is why you did not make playoffs. If you won you would have enough points to get in :)
Because you lost, that is why you did not make playoffs. If you won you would have enough points to get in :)
so was it a scheduling mistake or no? because all im seeing in the ticket is about how its too late to change and nothing about whether or not this scheduling is a problem ans something that shouldnt happen
its kind of unfortunate to see a team knocked out of playoffs contention just because of scheuling and especially in week 8 the schedule really only matters for bubble playoffs so it seems like a pretty big oversight
so was it a scheduling mistake or no? because all im seeing in the ticket is about how its too late to change and nothing about whether or not this scheduling is a problem ans something that shouldnt happen
its kind of unfortunate to see a team knocked out of playoffs contention just because of scheuling and especially in week 8 the schedule really only matters for bubble playoffs so it seems like a pretty big oversight
its kind of unfortunate to see a team knocked out of playoffs contention just because of scheuling and especially in week 8 the schedule really only matters for bubble playoffs so it seems like a pretty big oversight
We lost because we had to play the first and second seed team over and over again.
25% of our matches this season were against those two teams.
I would rather rematch the teams we are directly competing with for playoff spots.
We lost because we had to play the first and second seed team over and over again.
25% of our matches this season were against those two teams.
I would rather rematch the teams we are directly competing with for playoff spots.
25% of our matches this season were against those two teams.
I would rather rematch the teams we are directly competing with for playoff spots.
I think the bigger issue is one I brought up several times in past seasons. RGL has still not changed their tie-breaker rules to fucking make sense.
When 2 or more teams are tied, your idiotic "%won" stat is fucking useless and this is yet another example. I pointed this out in detail back in season 10. Starts at post #418 if anyone cares to read.
Goblin Zone, chell and fgp are all tied at 11-5 for the final 2 playoff spots.
Goblin Zone beat both chell and fgp in the regular season
chell lost against Goblin Zone and split against fgp
fgp lost against Goblin Zone and split with chell
Clearly Goblin Zone deserves to be in playoffs in this tie-breaker situation. They literally WON the matches against these other 2 teams but RGL values winning some useless rounds against low ranked teams at the end of the season more than winning matches outright. Fuck your rounds won% stat, Goblin Zone won the MATCHES. Matches are and will always be more important than rounds for many reasons.
Why is this so hard to grasp as a concept for your league tie-breaking rules?
Since chell and fgp split thier regular season matches, you can easily use %rounds won to break that tie without any issues.
I think the bigger issue is one I brought up several times in past seasons. RGL has still not changed their tie-breaker rules to fucking make sense.
When 2 or more teams are tied, your idiotic "%won" stat is fucking useless and this is yet another example. I pointed this out in detail back in season 10. [url=https://www.teamfortress.tv/62147/rgl-s10-main-discussion-thread/?page=14]Starts at post #418 if anyone cares to read.[/url]
Goblin Zone, chell and fgp are all tied at 11-5 for the final 2 playoff spots.
Goblin Zone [b]beat both[/b] chell and fgp in the regular season
chell[b] lost[/b] against Goblin Zone and split against fgp
fgp[b] lost[/b] against Goblin Zone and split with chell
Clearly Goblin Zone deserves to be in playoffs in this tie-breaker situation. They literally WON the matches against these other 2 teams but RGL values winning some useless rounds against low ranked teams at the end of the season more than winning matches outright. Fuck your rounds won% stat, Goblin Zone won the MATCHES. Matches are and will always be more important than rounds for many reasons.
Why is this so hard to grasp as a concept for your league tie-breaking rules?
Since chell and fgp split thier regular season matches, you can easily use %rounds won to break that tie without any issues.
When 2 or more teams are tied, your idiotic "%won" stat is fucking useless and this is yet another example. I pointed this out in detail back in season 10. [url=https://www.teamfortress.tv/62147/rgl-s10-main-discussion-thread/?page=14]Starts at post #418 if anyone cares to read.[/url]
Goblin Zone, chell and fgp are all tied at 11-5 for the final 2 playoff spots.
Goblin Zone [b]beat both[/b] chell and fgp in the regular season
chell[b] lost[/b] against Goblin Zone and split against fgp
fgp[b] lost[/b] against Goblin Zone and split with chell
Clearly Goblin Zone deserves to be in playoffs in this tie-breaker situation. They literally WON the matches against these other 2 teams but RGL values winning some useless rounds against low ranked teams at the end of the season more than winning matches outright. Fuck your rounds won% stat, Goblin Zone won the MATCHES. Matches are and will always be more important than rounds for many reasons.
Why is this so hard to grasp as a concept for your league tie-breaking rules?
Since chell and fgp split thier regular season matches, you can easily use %rounds won to break that tie without any issues.
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