Young man found a way

fuck you yen

Because some people have sparkinsons when they play. Some ADHD riddled scouts on a sugar high are probably gonna have some weird aim habits. I do it occasionally as well on scout, flicking from target to target. The youtube video Garm uploaded about yen is so hilarious because every clip is explainable.

In the clip you sent I literally address the argument that his player could've called the demo dropped down. That still wouldn't explain why he's turning the corner staring at the demo through a wall. Also watching that clip back the demo had just dropped lower like less than a second before, meaning it would've had to have been called instantly and reacted to instantly.

Also saying I don’t provide explanations for how the clips could make sense and boiling everything I say down to me just saying he’s cheating/walling is just not even remotely true. I give possible explanations for a lot of the clips, I’m just not going to be extremely charitable towards a person who’s consistently having very suspicious walling moments. And calling me bias is just pure projection. You are literally on his team lmao.

guys im here to defend the cheaters, they aren't cheating ur probably just salty

Having it happen once in a fight can be normal, but when it's happening 5 times in as many seconds then it's not normal, especially if it's perfect/near perfect flicks

I rang highlander tonight and yen was on my team. He averaged 80% scatter accuracy across all the logs we played together. A regular human being doesn't do that.

i agree ban the noob cheaters

Average 80%? I have not seen him drop below 80% while apparently still spy checking. Still, they don't have the brain to win main HL with invite 6s DM. RGL doesn't allow demo requests, or upload the demos they weekly request publicly. Tried getting any sort of pov demo but couldn't through the season.

Here is a fun force of nature log! https://logs.tf/3590226

91% HL force a nature log is all you should need to see LOLLL

no but he plays mge…

probably the most braindead thread of all time

Why doesn't RGL allow players to request other players demos anyways? The report forms all state shit about providing ticks and what happened to make you think they're cheating, and yet there's so many things you can't see from STVs. Feels like RGL is asking us to do their job without giving any of the requirements to prove a lot of things.

Also ETF2L does it and I don't think I've seen many people have issues with their demo request system.

lets break this down u guys are clipping the most insane batshit crazy things ever and accusing this guy of cheats. the 17 and 0 log proves nothing he has 40% beam of course anyone with an iq above 50 will flourish under that in condition. Im watching these clips and ive done almost every single thing in them. Tf2 is not a hard game to aim in. Many scouts have done the exact same thing this is not the first time that a player has been hacksuated over the most braindead shit ever. In these clips you can see him tracking well for maybe half a second which is a common thing its not like its never been done before. you guys are literally braindead hes consistently missing its not like he has unfathomable aim. In most of his good logs he has over 35% beam while his team is legit in the trenches https://imgur.com/a/pUBQSmb
Its funny watching old boomers comment on this thread not having a fucking clue what target switching saying this guy is using 180 fov and cheating his dick off its so braindead man. For one hes not even centered for two the flicks are legit if you look at them hes over flicking and making underflicks theres just no way yen is cheating i wont even get started on kryma

I ran into this issue in the past too, I don't understand how we're expected to spot cheating in STV when the anti-cheat team doesn't use STV to spot cheating because STV demos are shit. Like why can players not request POV demos anymore? I can't think of anyone with a brain that has been concerned about this, no idea why RGL decided that was a "problem"

Finally another intelligent person has decided to reply. Maybe you guys should watch garm's video and really think "Is this suspicious at all? Can another human look at these clips and think he's cheating?" (referring to yen)

Regardless, if yen turns out to be cheating, this method of haccusating where you make a horrible thread and an even worse youtube video while every regular tf.tver doesn't think twice about joining the bandwagon. I really don't like how this was handled. If you deleted every mention of yen in this then it would be much more sensible.

Can you shut the fuck up lol

mad prolly

tony spittin

the amount of mental gymnastics and ego you guys are spewing into this thread is crazy

Hey guys, person who used to be on whataburger.tf here. All I’m going to say is when it came to my speculation of kryma aka sampha I would say that his dm became unnatural overtime, casually dropping 350-500 dpm in almost every scrim with almost no warmup despite this being his first season on scout, while also acting like a open player, like hiding in corners where you’re expected to be caught or just doing stuff you don’t ever see a pocket scout usually do like being aware of his surroundings. I used to defend him but after seeing some of these clips I think he at bare minimum deserves an examination into whether he has walls or not cause some of those clips are fishy. As for my situation, these guys really think that stats mean everything when it comes to soldier when you’re forced to behave like a 2nd roamer and make space, while still getting good stats at the same time. Sure there were times I just wouldn’t perform that great but I felt like I did what they wanted from me, guess it wasn’t enough. In me getting cut they decided to do it right before our scrim on match day so you can surely expect the vibes to be great that day, so with that my roamer will be leaving with me, won’t make much of a difference because they have possible subs, but I respect him doing it for me as we both know we weren’t the underlying problem that team was going through. Shame that I can’t have a single solid season without rat level behavior, but who knows maybe next time?

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fax prolly

a lot of yen's clips could probably be explained away in some manner or another but 0:06-0:08 and 1:39 are not mouse movements that I can imagine anyone making

I like how the people defending yen are like "THESE GUYS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEYRE TALKING ABOUT". When their line of reasoning is that he plays MGE. No one who plays MGE plays like that, especially in the example I showed. There is 0 reason to swap targets randomly like that. Especially with the Heavy clip at the beginning; why would you switch targets like that with Heavy? You NEED to target one person to get anything valuable.

These people are like "THESE CLIPS DON'T SHOW ANYTHING, SO LET ME USE ONE CLIP AGAINST LIKE 30 TO PROVE THAT IM RIGHT", that's such a 5th-grade level of arguing.

Like what kind of a defense is "Because some people have parkinsons when they play. Some ADHD-riddled scouts on a sugar high are probably gonna have some weird aim habits. I do it occasionally as well on scout, flicking from target to target." That's such a petty and retarded way to counter everyone else's points, who ACTIVELY watched the gameplay and gave a hypothesis that makes perfect sense. I need you guys to look at my original post and point out what is WRONG about what I said. No Scout player that is smart, or human, would switch targets like that, and Scouts that do that are fucking terrible.

"you guys are braindead He is consistently missing its not like he has an unfathomable aim." Local TF2 player discovers the meaning of toggling. No one saying he is cheating 24/7, that's Sampha, but if he is cheating, he is toggling.

"The clips don't show a thing, idk what is with the original poster but there are way too many factors to think about before making such an aggressive thread like this"
99% of the replies to evidence and logical reasoning for why yen is cheating. The counterargument is "no he isn't, because of <insert the broadest reason without actually digging into anything>". Like it was lost when it was said "main players get to decide who's cheating", that matter?

"Why is the Open player smarter than all these main players on this thread"
This was said to this idiot saying, "Clips don't show a thing, idk what is with the original poster but there are way too many factors". Like what factors bro? Why don't they show a thing, can you please like, and analyze the clips, bro? Your argument is nothing, and arguing with something.

Its actually like flat earthers telling scientist the earth is flat by giving worthless reasons with no actual backing behind it.

if you cheat, robbing other people of their fair shot in a season you deadass deserved to be exiled from gaming and human socialization forever

I think we should kill people

check your dms <3

All in favor say I

ban the circlejerking cheater enablers