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Article on Constructive Feedback
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Found this today while wandering Twitter, very helpful article I think in regards to testing maps and stuff:

http://www.trackcreation.net/devdiary/?p=544

Found this today while wandering Twitter, very helpful article I think in regards to testing maps and stuff:

http://www.trackcreation.net/devdiary/?p=544
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You're a cool guy. Your article has loads of spelling and grammar errors.
You're wesome.

You're a cool guy. Your article has loads of spelling and grammar errors.
You're wesome.
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DrPloxoYou're a cool guy. Your article has loads of spelling and grammar errors.
You're wesome.

that's not constructive feedback, you're just being a douchebag

[quote=DrPloxo]You're a cool guy. Your article has loads of spelling and grammar errors.
You're wesome.[/quote]
that's not constructive feedback, you're just being a douchebag
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wDrPloxoYou're a cool guy. Your article has loads of spelling and grammar errors.
You're wesome.
that's not constructive feedback, you're just being a douchebag

Fine twat-monkey.
Sadly, criticism is subjectively interpreted. What you view as constructive can come off as insulting to the receiver of said criticism. So yes, there are way to more gingerly state things, but they are in no way going to assist the receiver's interpretation.
And similar to my comment, you're just being a douchebag. Please enjoy your fuck-tarded +frags for a hypocritical cunt post.

[quote=w][quote=DrPloxo]You're a cool guy. Your article has loads of spelling and grammar errors.
You're wesome.[/quote]
that's not constructive feedback, you're just being a douchebag[/quote]
Fine twat-monkey.
Sadly, criticism is subjectively interpreted. What you view as constructive can come off as insulting to the receiver of said criticism. So yes, there are way to more gingerly state things, but they are in no way going to assist the receiver's interpretation.
And similar to my comment, you're just being a douchebag. Please enjoy your fuck-tarded +frags for a hypocritical cunt post.
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#5
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ur real rude u no that

ur real rude u no that
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#6
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You sir, need to relax.

You sir, need to relax.
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#7
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now thats what i call edgy

now thats what i call [i]edgy[/i]
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DrPloxowDrPloxoYou're a cool guy. Your article has loads of spelling and grammar errors.
You're wesome.
that's not constructive feedback, you're just being a douchebag
Fine twat-monkey.
Sadly, criticism is subjectively interpreted. What you view as constructive can come off as insulting to the receiver of said criticism. So yes, there are way to more gingerly state things, but they are in no way going to assist the receiver's interpretation.
And similar to my comment, you're just being a douchebag. Please enjoy your fuck-tarded +frags for a hypocritical cunt post.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[quote=DrPloxo][quote=w][quote=DrPloxo]You're a cool guy. Your article has loads of spelling and grammar errors.
You're wesome.[/quote]
that's not constructive feedback, you're just being a douchebag[/quote]
Fine twat-monkey.
Sadly, criticism is subjectively interpreted. What you view as constructive can come off as insulting to the receiver of said criticism. So yes, there are way to more gingerly state things, but they are in no way going to assist the receiver's interpretation.
And similar to my comment, you're just being a douchebag. Please enjoy your fuck-tarded +frags for a hypocritical cunt post.[/quote]
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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#9
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DrPloxowDrPloxoYou're a cool guy. Your article has loads of spelling and grammar errors.
You're wesome.
that's not constructive feedback, you're just being a douchebag
Fine twat-monkey.
Sadly, criticism is subjectively interpreted. What you view as constructive can come off as insulting to the receiver of said criticism. So yes, there are way to more gingerly state things, but they are in no way going to assist the receiver's interpretation.
And similar to my comment, you're just being a douchebag. Please enjoy your fuck-tarded +frags for a hypocritical cunt post.

http://static.tumblr.com/tjv6lw7/ZmFm8uwcb/muppets_-_flailing_kermit.gif

[quote=DrPloxo][quote=w][quote=DrPloxo]You're a cool guy. Your article has loads of spelling and grammar errors.
You're wesome.[/quote]
that's not constructive feedback, you're just being a douchebag[/quote]
Fine twat-monkey.
Sadly, criticism is subjectively interpreted. What you view as constructive can come off as insulting to the receiver of said criticism. So yes, there are way to more gingerly state things, but they are in no way going to assist the receiver's interpretation.
And similar to my comment, you're just being a douchebag. Please enjoy your fuck-tarded +frags for a hypocritical cunt post.[/quote]

[img]http://static.tumblr.com/tjv6lw7/ZmFm8uwcb/muppets_-_flailing_kermit.gif[/img]
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Very good. Many people could learn from this, even a lot of the people who partially dedicate themselves to giving feedback to map threads on tf2maps.

Very good. Many people could learn from this, even a lot of the people who partially dedicate themselves to giving feedback to map threads on tf2maps.
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I +fragged for twat-monkey and pointing out the obvious hypocrisy
did tftv turn into tumbler all of a sudden? people getting their panties twisted way to fast

pretentious hipsters everywhere...

I +fragged for twat-monkey and pointing out the obvious hypocrisy
did tftv turn into tumbler all of a sudden? people getting their panties twisted way to fast

pretentious hipsters everywhere...
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#12
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I think you need to look up the words "hypocrisy" and "hipster", I recommend this

http://www.myenglisch.de/oxford-englisch/grafik/duden.jpg

I think you need to look up the words "hypocrisy" and "hipster", I recommend this [img]http://www.myenglisch.de/oxford-englisch/grafik/duden.jpg[/img]
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the301stspartanI think you need to look up the words "hypocrisy" and "hipster", I recommend this funny pic

Ws post was hypocritical (in my opinion) and Drploxo pointed it out, not sure how I miss used the word hypocrisy there, but please do enlighten me.
oh and please talk slowly and loader than normal since, well you know I am a foreigner and all that... oh wait

[quote=the301stspartan]I think you need to look up the words "hypocrisy" and "hipster", I recommend this funny pic[/quote]
Ws post was hypocritical (in my opinion) and Drploxo pointed it out, not sure how I miss used the word hypocrisy there, but please do enlighten me.
oh and please talk slowly and loader than normal since, well you know I am a foreigner and all that... oh wait
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W was pointing out how DrPloxo was being a douchebag. Which he was. In order for this to be hypocritical, W himself would have to be a jackass to everyone himself. Which he isn't. Imo.

W was pointing out how DrPloxo was being a douchebag. Which he was. In order for this to be hypocritical, W himself would have to be a jackass to everyone himself. Which he isn't. Imo.
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#15
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~pointing out that someone's being a douchebag doesn't make you a douchebag unless you go the extra mile and call them a neopet negg~

~pointing out that someone's being a douchebag doesn't make you a douchebag unless you go the extra mile and call them a neopet negg~
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the301stspartanW was pointing out how DrPloxo was being a douchebag. Which he was. In order for this to be hypocritical, W himself would have to be a jackass to everyone himself. Which he isn't. Imo.

W said that Drploxos post wasn't constructive criticism while his wasn't either.. tada hypocrisy...
arguing on the interwebs is a bad idea

[quote=the301stspartan]W was pointing out how DrPloxo was being a douchebag. Which he was. In order for this to be hypocritical, W himself would have to be a jackass to everyone himself. Which he isn't. Imo.[/quote]
W said that Drploxos post wasn't constructive criticism while his wasn't either.. tada hypocrisy...
arguing on the interwebs is a bad idea
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#17
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There are posts that don't deserve constructive criticism because the poster was not asking for it. DrPloxo's post is an example of such posts.

There are posts that don't deserve constructive criticism because the poster was not asking for it. DrPloxo's post is an example of such posts.
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http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png

[img]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png[/img]
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the301stspartanThere are posts that don't deserve constructive criticism because the poster was not asking for it. DrPloxo's post is an example of such posts.

And the true tragedy is that it's the classic "sandwich."
Good thing. Bad thing. Good thing. Constructive criticisms first big, "This is gonna make sure nobody gets upset," pile of shit.
Thanks for proving my angry post right. You guys are clearly next level.

Secondarily, kinch, the article is a good intention, definitely, but some people don't take criticism.

[quote=the301stspartan]There are posts that don't deserve constructive criticism because the poster was not asking for it. DrPloxo's post is an example of such posts.[/quote]
And the true tragedy is that it's the classic "sandwich."
Good thing. Bad thing. Good thing. Constructive criticisms first big, "This is gonna make sure nobody gets upset," pile of shit.
Thanks for proving my angry post right. You guys are clearly next level.

Secondarily, kinch, the article is a good intention, definitely, but some people don't take criticism.
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#20
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DrPloxoFine twat-monkey. Sadly, criticism is subjectively interpreted. What you view as constructive can come off as insulting to the receiver of said criticism. So yes, there are way to more gingerly state things, but they are in no way going to assist the receiver's interpretation. And similar to my comment, you're just being a douchebag. Please enjoy your fuck-tarded +frags for a hypocritical cunt post.

http://i.imgur.com/hXy2f1U.gif

[quote=DrPloxo]Fine twat-monkey. Sadly, criticism is subjectively interpreted. What you view as constructive can come off as insulting to the receiver of said criticism. So yes, there are way to more gingerly state things, but they are in no way going to assist the receiver's interpretation. And similar to my comment, you're just being a douchebag. Please enjoy your fuck-tarded +frags for a hypocritical cunt post.[/quote]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/hXy2f1U.gif[/img]
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I didn't. Got drunk, mad and probably goofed.
The explanation of the first post is:
I like Kinch. The article has a lot of errors but it's pretty helpful. I put it into the compliment sandwich format because some times it doesn't matter how you say things, people can always not be happy about them. The article says this itself right after the "DESCRIBE DON'T JUDGE," header.
The Second post:
Since my first post was an overpackaged bit of criticism, it seemed like I was being trolled. And . . . .being drunk, mad. I also thought twat-monkey was funny iirc.

I didn't. Got drunk, mad and probably goofed.
The explanation of the first post is:
I like Kinch. The article has a lot of errors but it's pretty helpful. I put it into the compliment sandwich format because some times it doesn't matter how you say things, people can always not be happy about them. The article says this itself right after the "DESCRIBE DON'T JUDGE," header.
The Second post:
Since my first post was an overpackaged bit of criticism, it seemed like I was being trolled. And . . . .being drunk, mad. I also thought twat-monkey was funny iirc.
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#22
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Pretty ironic how all this spawned from a post linking to an article on constructive feedback.

Pretty ironic how all this spawned from a post linking to an article on constructive feedback.
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YankeePretty ironic how all this spawned from a post linking to an article on constructive feedback.

I thought irony was supposed to mean it was unexpected B)

[quote=Yankee]Pretty ironic how all this spawned from a post linking to an article on constructive feedback.[/quote]

I thought irony was supposed to mean it was unexpected B)
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SelenticYankeePretty ironic how all this spawned from a post linking to an article on constructive feedback.
I thought irony was supposed to mean it was unexpected B)

sort of

it means the opposite of what is to be expected

[quote=Selentic][quote=Yankee]Pretty ironic how all this spawned from a post linking to an article on constructive feedback.[/quote]

I thought irony was supposed to mean it was unexpected B)[/quote]

sort of

it means the opposite of what is to be expected
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I try to be helpful and you guys go and do THIS?

http://dailyoftheday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/vxKOi.gif

Now I see why Ploxo was apologizing last night... Oh well.

I try to be helpful and you guys go and do THIS?

[img]http://dailyoftheday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/vxKOi.gif[/img]

Now I see why Ploxo was apologizing last night... Oh well.
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koth_product
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give ploxo a break, I pretty much agree with him for the most part. I really wish we could have unfiltered feedback but this topic is not doing great for my hopes. don't blow things out of proportion guys.

give ploxo a break, I pretty much agree with him for the most part. I really wish we could have unfiltered feedback but this topic is not doing great for my hopes. don't blow things out of proportion guys.
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I know, he apologized to me on Slin's stream the other night, so we good :)

Plus I adore Red Pandas, so here's another one:

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4567672320/h0CFD1127/

I know, he apologized to me on Slin's stream the other night, so we good :)

Plus I adore Red Pandas, so here's another one:

[img]https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4567672320/h0CFD1127/[/img]
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