2sy_morphiendIf you guys read the other thread they're actually trying to make it more competitive and have supposedly enlisted the help of bamco for balancing.
i want to believe
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[quote=2sy_morphiend]If you guys read the other thread they're actually trying to make it more competitive and have supposedly enlisted the help of bamco for balancing.
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i want to believe
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i want to believe
This game is going to make me buy a wiiU. I'm ok with that.
This game is going to make me buy a wiiU. I'm ok with that.
Looks like brawl... Lame. Hopefully 2sy is right and it will be more like melee. Old news though, and not quite good news. Looks exactly like brawl in the gameplay video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vQD1yJinzeQ#!
MEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!
Looks like brawl... Lame. Hopefully 2sy is right and it will be more like melee. Old news though, and not quite good news. Looks exactly like brawl in the gameplay video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vQD1yJinzeQ#!
MEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!
MEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!
I actually don't think I can name a single game designed to be competitive that was actually good.
Like, all the best competitive games were ones that designed without it in mind at the start really (Quake, DotA, TF2, CS 1.6, Melee, Super Turbo, StarCraft...) and all the ones with it designed in mind/focused on were REAL BAD (FURY IM LOOKING AT YOU).
pls be a good comp game :(, though I'll still play it at friends regardless, brawl was still mega good for that.
I actually don't think I can name a single game designed to be competitive that was actually good.
Like, all the best competitive games were ones that designed without it in mind at the start really (Quake, DotA, TF2, CS 1.6, Melee, Super Turbo, StarCraft...) and all the ones with it designed in mind/focused on were REAL BAD (FURY IM LOOKING AT YOU).
pls be a good comp game :(, though I'll still play it at friends regardless, brawl was still mega good for that.
Like, all the best competitive games were ones that designed without it in mind at the start really (Quake, DotA, TF2, CS 1.6, Melee, Super Turbo, StarCraft...) and all the ones with it designed in mind/focused on were REAL BAD (FURY IM LOOKING AT YOU).
pls be a good comp game :(, though I'll still play it at friends regardless, brawl was still mega good for that.
DarkNecridI actually don't think I can name a single game designed to be competitive that was actually good.
Like, all the best competitive games were ones that designed without it in mind at the start really (Quake, DotA, TF2, CS 1.6, Melee, Super Turbo, StarCraft...) and all the ones with it designed in mind/focused on were REAL BAD (FURY IM LOOKING AT YOU).
pls be a good comp game :(, though I'll still play it at friends regardless, brawl was still mega good for that.
I wouldn't really put dota in that category as literally everything is different now. A game that has been constantly updated by a different developer from the original is quintessentially a different game after a certain point.
[quote=DarkNecrid]I actually don't think I can name a single game designed to be competitive that was actually good.
Like, all the best competitive games were ones that designed without it in mind at the start really (Quake, DotA, TF2, CS 1.6, Melee, Super Turbo, StarCraft...) and all the ones with it designed in mind/focused on were REAL BAD (FURY IM LOOKING AT YOU).
pls be a good comp game :(, though I'll still play it at friends regardless, brawl was still mega good for that.[/quote]
I wouldn't really put dota in that category as literally everything is different now. A game that has been constantly updated by a different developer from the original is quintessentially a different game after a certain point.
Like, all the best competitive games were ones that designed without it in mind at the start really (Quake, DotA, TF2, CS 1.6, Melee, Super Turbo, StarCraft...) and all the ones with it designed in mind/focused on were REAL BAD (FURY IM LOOKING AT YOU).
pls be a good comp game :(, though I'll still play it at friends regardless, brawl was still mega good for that.[/quote]
I wouldn't really put dota in that category as literally everything is different now. A game that has been constantly updated by a different developer from the original is quintessentially a different game after a certain point.
Heh, my dreams of Sparkster being in smash were far fetched anyway. I wonder if any more reveals will take place.
IN OTHER NEWS the new pokemon type is Fairy.
FAIRY
Heh, my dreams of Sparkster being in smash were far fetched anyway. I wonder if any more reveals will take place.
IN OTHER NEWS the new pokemon type is Fairy.
[b][i]FAIRY[/i][/b]
IN OTHER NEWS the new pokemon type is Fairy.
[b][i]FAIRY[/i][/b]
wii fit trainer here to ensure the new ssb is a balanced fighting game
wii fit trainer here to ensure the new ssb is a balanced fighting game
DarkNecridI actually don't think I can name a single game designed to be competitive that was actually good.
Like, all the best competitive games were ones that designed without it in mind at the start really (Quake, DotA, TF2, CS 1.6, Melee, Super Turbo, StarCraft...) and all the ones with it designed in mind/focused on were REAL BAD (FURY IM LOOKING AT YOU).
pls be a good comp game :(, though I'll still play it at friends regardless, brawl was still mega good for that.
What about fighting games? I don't really know much about them but they've always seemed pretty popular for competitions and the like.
droughtwii fit trainer here to ensure the new ssb is a balanced fighting game
dohoho
[quote=DarkNecrid]I actually don't think I can name a single game designed to be competitive that was actually good.
Like, all the best competitive games were ones that designed without it in mind at the start really (Quake, DotA, TF2, CS 1.6, Melee, Super Turbo, StarCraft...) and all the ones with it designed in mind/focused on were REAL BAD (FURY IM LOOKING AT YOU).
pls be a good comp game :(, though I'll still play it at friends regardless, brawl was still mega good for that.[/quote]
What about fighting games? I don't really know much about them but they've always seemed pretty popular for competitions and the like.
[quote=drought]wii fit trainer here to ensure the new ssb is a balanced fighting game[/quote]
dohoho
Like, all the best competitive games were ones that designed without it in mind at the start really (Quake, DotA, TF2, CS 1.6, Melee, Super Turbo, StarCraft...) and all the ones with it designed in mind/focused on were REAL BAD (FURY IM LOOKING AT YOU).
pls be a good comp game :(, though I'll still play it at friends regardless, brawl was still mega good for that.[/quote]
What about fighting games? I don't really know much about them but they've always seemed pretty popular for competitions and the like.
[quote=drought]wii fit trainer here to ensure the new ssb is a balanced fighting game[/quote]
dohoho
Just thought I should post this here,
over 100 screenshots of Smash Bros in 720p:
Just thought I should post this here,
over 100 screenshots of Smash Bros in 720p:
http://minus.com/mIjRA5mLm0oNc
over 100 screenshots of Smash Bros in 720p:
http://minus.com/mIjRA5mLm0oNc
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af356/NikoJims/1370989224720_zpsb64c41bd.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PNnq3NuPCI
Looks great, can't wait for Japan Time 2.0.
[img]http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af356/NikoJims/1370989224720_zpsb64c41bd.jpg[/img]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PNnq3NuPCI[/url]
Looks great, can't wait for Japan Time 2.0.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PNnq3NuPCI[/url]
Looks great, can't wait for Japan Time 2.0.
only the lord can save my soul now
only the lord can save my soul now
[img]http://i.imgur.com/MxRKuVV.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/MxRKuVV.png[/img]
Really bored so making a list of everything that smash 4 needs to be at least as good as melee:
L-Canceling
SHFFLing(short-hopping, fastfalling, l-cancel)
Wavedashing
dashdancing
Teching
Ledge tech
crouch-canceling
power shielding
power shield reflecting
smash DI
jump canceling:
-JC grabs
-JC shines
-JC up smash
-JC up-B
Walljumps
chaingrabs
jab resets
ledge drops(dash drop, shield drop, isai drop, pc drop)
edge-canceling
character specific skills:
fox/falco shorthop lasers
fox shorthop double laser
fox falco JC shine as said above
fox/falco illusion shorten
fox up-B sweetspotting
fox/falco waveshines
marf's reverse up-b
marf's side-b stall
when playing against marf, lightshield instant edgehog
sheik's needle cancel
sheik's up-B ledge fakeout
sheik's needle air pivot
sheik's infinite ledge stall
samus' infinite up-B tech
samus' super wavedash
samus' infinite down-b recovery
Icies Wobbling
Icies desyncing
Falcon's gentleman(actually, an easier gentleman would be awesome)
Falcon/Ganon Down-B jump reset
falcon/Ganon Eddy spike
pikachu's double upward quick attack
a lot more shit that I can't think of atm
I DUNNO MAN NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR SMASH 4
Really bored so making a list of everything that smash 4 needs to be at least as good as melee:
L-Canceling
SHFFLing(short-hopping, fastfalling, l-cancel)
Wavedashing
dashdancing
Teching
Ledge tech
crouch-canceling
power shielding
power shield reflecting
smash DI
jump canceling:
-JC grabs
-JC shines
-JC up smash
-JC up-B
Walljumps
chaingrabs
jab resets
ledge drops(dash drop, shield drop, isai drop, pc drop)
edge-canceling
character specific skills:
fox/falco shorthop lasers
fox shorthop double laser
fox falco JC shine as said above
fox/falco illusion shorten
fox up-B sweetspotting
fox/falco waveshines
marf's reverse up-b
marf's side-b stall
when playing against marf, lightshield instant edgehog
sheik's needle cancel
sheik's up-B ledge fakeout
sheik's needle air pivot
sheik's infinite ledge stall
samus' infinite up-B tech
samus' super wavedash
samus' infinite down-b recovery
Icies Wobbling
Icies desyncing
Falcon's gentleman(actually, an easier gentleman would be awesome)
Falcon/Ganon Down-B jump reset
falcon/Ganon Eddy spike
pikachu's double upward quick attack
a lot more shit that I can't think of atm
I DUNNO MAN NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR SMASH 4
L-Canceling
SHFFLing(short-hopping, fastfalling, l-cancel)
Wavedashing
dashdancing
Teching
Ledge tech
crouch-canceling
power shielding
power shield reflecting
smash DI
jump canceling:
-JC grabs
-JC shines
-JC up smash
-JC up-B
Walljumps
chaingrabs
jab resets
ledge drops(dash drop, shield drop, isai drop, pc drop)
edge-canceling
character specific skills:
fox/falco shorthop lasers
fox shorthop double laser
fox falco JC shine as said above
fox/falco illusion shorten
fox up-B sweetspotting
fox/falco waveshines
marf's reverse up-b
marf's side-b stall
when playing against marf, lightshield instant edgehog
sheik's needle cancel
sheik's up-B ledge fakeout
sheik's needle air pivot
sheik's infinite ledge stall
samus' infinite up-B tech
samus' super wavedash
samus' infinite down-b recovery
Icies Wobbling
Icies desyncing
Falcon's gentleman(actually, an easier gentleman would be awesome)
Falcon/Ganon Down-B jump reset
falcon/Ganon Eddy spike
pikachu's double upward quick attack
a lot more shit that I can't think of atm
I DUNNO MAN NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR SMASH 4
Khakiwords
the c stick too, dont forget that
[quote=Khaki]words[/quote]
the c stick too, dont forget that
the c stick too, dont forget that
droughtKhakiwordsthe c stick too, dont forget that
do you actually play this game
[quote=drought][quote=Khaki]words[/quote]
the c stick too, dont forget that[/quote]
do you actually play this game
the c stick too, dont forget that[/quote]
do you actually play this game
droughtKhakiwordsthe c stick too, dont forget that
HE USES THE C STICK
also imo L-canceling is an unnecessary barrier of entry. They wouldn't need it if they just decreased landing lag. Would make the game a lot easier for new players without making it suck.
[quote=drought][quote=Khaki]words[/quote]
the c stick too, dont forget that[/quote]
HE USES THE C STICK
also imo L-canceling is an unnecessary barrier of entry. They wouldn't need it if they just decreased landing lag. Would make the game a lot easier for new players without making it suck.
the c stick too, dont forget that[/quote]
HE USES THE C STICK
also imo L-canceling is an unnecessary barrier of entry. They wouldn't need it if they just decreased landing lag. Would make the game a lot easier for new players without making it suck.
Khakidroughtdo you actually play this gameKhakiwordsthe c stick too, dont forget that
In his defense, c-stick was optimal for air attacks when you wanted to DI left and attack right or vice versa. Why another joystick isn't fine for such a role is beyond me though.
[quote=Khaki][quote=drought][quote=Khaki]words[/quote]
the c stick too, dont forget that[/quote]
do you actually play this game[/quote]
In his defense, c-stick was optimal for air attacks when you wanted to DI left and attack right or vice versa. Why another joystick isn't fine for such a role is beyond me though.
the c stick too, dont forget that[/quote]
do you actually play this game[/quote]
In his defense, c-stick was optimal for air attacks when you wanted to DI left and attack right or vice versa. Why another joystick isn't fine for such a role is beyond me though.
TuggerKhakidroughtdo you actually play this gameKhakiwordsthe c stick too, dont forget that
In his defense, c-stick was optimal for air attacks when you wanted to DI left and attack right or vice versa. Why another joystick isn't fine for such a role is beyond me though.
I'm not saying the c-stick wasn't useful, it's just like, what the fuck does that have to do with my ranting
[quote=Tugger][quote=Khaki][quote=drought][quote=Khaki]words[/quote]
the c stick too, dont forget that[/quote]
do you actually play this game[/quote]
In his defense, c-stick was optimal for air attacks when you wanted to DI left and attack right or vice versa. Why another joystick isn't fine for such a role is beyond me though.[/quote]
I'm not saying the c-stick wasn't useful, it's just like, what the fuck does that have to do with my ranting
the c stick too, dont forget that[/quote]
do you actually play this game[/quote]
In his defense, c-stick was optimal for air attacks when you wanted to DI left and attack right or vice versa. Why another joystick isn't fine for such a role is beyond me though.[/quote]
I'm not saying the c-stick wasn't useful, it's just like, what the fuck does that have to do with my ranting
Khakiwords
Exactly. Why are people -fragging this?
[quote=Khaki]words[/quote]
Exactly. Why are people -fragging this?
Exactly. Why are people -fragging this?
obligatory post sarcastically referencing clockwork's and my competitive smash history
obligatory post cynically mentioning how terrible brawl was and how terrible this will be
obligatory post sarcastically referencing clockwork's and my competitive smash history
obligatory post cynically mentioning how terrible brawl was and how terrible this will be
obligatory post cynically mentioning how terrible brawl was and how terrible this will be
I just realized something.
Villager is OP as fuck.
WHATEVER YOU THROW AT HIM HE PUTS IN HIS POCKET
I just realized something.
Villager is OP as fuck.
WHATEVER YOU THROW AT HIM HE PUTS IN HIS POCKET
Villager is OP as fuck.
WHATEVER YOU THROW AT HIM HE PUTS IN HIS POCKET
hookyI just realized something.
Villager is OP as fuck.
WHATEVER YOU THROW AT HIM HE PUTS IN HIS POCKET
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af356/NikoJims/1371004395284_zpsf99db2c7.png
[quote=hooky]I just realized something.
Villager is OP as fuck.
WHATEVER YOU THROW AT HIM HE PUTS IN HIS POCKET[/quote]
[IMG]http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af356/NikoJims/1371004395284_zpsf99db2c7.png[/IMG]
Villager is OP as fuck.
WHATEVER YOU THROW AT HIM HE PUTS IN HIS POCKET[/quote]
[IMG]http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af356/NikoJims/1371004395284_zpsf99db2c7.png[/IMG]
Foxhttp://i.imgur.com/b7DFggR.jpg
DAT UPSMASH
HAPPY FEET
ckapKhakiwordsExactly. Why are people -fragging this?
Because half of what he talks about is a result of L-canceling, auto canceling, and directional air dodge.
[quote=Fox][img]http://i.imgur.com/b7DFggR.jpg[/img]
DAT UPSMASH[/quote]
HAPPY FEET
[quote=ckap][quote=Khaki]words[/quote]
Exactly. Why are people -fragging this?[/quote]
Because half of what he talks about is a result of L-canceling, auto canceling, and directional air dodge.
DAT UPSMASH[/quote]
HAPPY FEET
[quote=ckap][quote=Khaki]words[/quote]
Exactly. Why are people -fragging this?[/quote]
Because half of what he talks about is a result of L-canceling, auto canceling, and directional air dodge.
KhakiWORDS
The trailer in the CGI flick showed mario L-canceling when he landed. Fastfalling is confirmed, I saw Sakurai do it while playing Megaman vs. Mario. All the normal techniques, wall jumps, double jumps etc. are a given.
REALLY hoping power shield reflecting makes a comeback, I loved doing that.
Also, watch this gameplay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF5RZ3cdDHo
[quote=Khaki]WORDS[/quote]
The trailer in the CGI flick showed mario L-canceling when he landed. Fastfalling is confirmed, I saw Sakurai do it while playing Megaman vs. Mario. All the normal techniques, wall jumps, double jumps etc. are a given.
REALLY hoping power shield reflecting makes a comeback, I loved doing that.
Also, watch this gameplay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF5RZ3cdDHo
The trailer in the CGI flick showed mario L-canceling when he landed. Fastfalling is confirmed, I saw Sakurai do it while playing Megaman vs. Mario. All the normal techniques, wall jumps, double jumps etc. are a given.
REALLY hoping power shield reflecting makes a comeback, I loved doing that.
Also, watch this gameplay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF5RZ3cdDHo
KhakiReally bored so making a list of everything that smash 4 needs to be at least as good as melee:
L-Canceling
SHFFLing(short-hopping, fastfalling, l-cancel)
Wavedashing
dashdancing
Teching
Ledge tech
crouch-canceling
power shielding
power shield reflecting
smash DI
jump canceling:
-JC grabs
-JC shines
-JC up smash
-JC up-B
Walljumps
chaingrabs
jab resets
ledge drops(dash drop, shield drop, isai drop, pc drop)
edge-canceling
character specific skills:
fox/falco shorthop lasers
fox shorthop double laser
fox falco JC shine as said above
fox/falco illusion shorten
fox up-B sweetspotting
fox/falco waveshines
marf's reverse up-b
marf's side-b stall
when playing against marf, lightshield instant edgehog
sheik's needle cancel
sheik's up-B ledge fakeout
sheik's needle air pivot
sheik's infinite ledge stall
samus' infinite up-B tech
samus' super wavedash
samus' infinite down-b recovery
Icies Wobbling
Icies desyncing
Falcon's gentleman(actually, an easier gentleman would be awesome)
Falcon/Ganon Down-B jump reset
falcon/Ganon Eddy spike
pikachu's double upward quick attack
a lot more shit that I can't think of atm
I DUNNO MAN NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR SMASH 4
you don't need a carbon copy of an older game for it to be good.
[quote=Khaki]Really bored so making a list of everything that smash 4 needs to be at least as good as melee:
L-Canceling
SHFFLing(short-hopping, fastfalling, l-cancel)
Wavedashing
dashdancing
Teching
Ledge tech
crouch-canceling
power shielding
power shield reflecting
smash DI
jump canceling:
-JC grabs
-JC shines
-JC up smash
-JC up-B
Walljumps
chaingrabs
jab resets
ledge drops(dash drop, shield drop, isai drop, pc drop)
edge-canceling
character specific skills:
fox/falco shorthop lasers
fox shorthop double laser
fox falco JC shine as said above
fox/falco illusion shorten
fox up-B sweetspotting
fox/falco waveshines
marf's reverse up-b
marf's side-b stall
when playing against marf, lightshield instant edgehog
sheik's needle cancel
sheik's up-B ledge fakeout
sheik's needle air pivot
sheik's infinite ledge stall
samus' infinite up-B tech
samus' super wavedash
samus' infinite down-b recovery
Icies Wobbling
Icies desyncing
Falcon's gentleman(actually, an easier gentleman would be awesome)
Falcon/Ganon Down-B jump reset
falcon/Ganon Eddy spike
pikachu's double upward quick attack
a lot more shit that I can't think of atm
I DUNNO MAN NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR SMASH 4[/quote]
you don't need a carbon copy of an older game for it to be good.
L-Canceling
SHFFLing(short-hopping, fastfalling, l-cancel)
Wavedashing
dashdancing
Teching
Ledge tech
crouch-canceling
power shielding
power shield reflecting
smash DI
jump canceling:
-JC grabs
-JC shines
-JC up smash
-JC up-B
Walljumps
chaingrabs
jab resets
ledge drops(dash drop, shield drop, isai drop, pc drop)
edge-canceling
character specific skills:
fox/falco shorthop lasers
fox shorthop double laser
fox falco JC shine as said above
fox/falco illusion shorten
fox up-B sweetspotting
fox/falco waveshines
marf's reverse up-b
marf's side-b stall
when playing against marf, lightshield instant edgehog
sheik's needle cancel
sheik's up-B ledge fakeout
sheik's needle air pivot
sheik's infinite ledge stall
samus' infinite up-B tech
samus' super wavedash
samus' infinite down-b recovery
Icies Wobbling
Icies desyncing
Falcon's gentleman(actually, an easier gentleman would be awesome)
Falcon/Ganon Down-B jump reset
falcon/Ganon Eddy spike
pikachu's double upward quick attack
a lot more shit that I can't think of atm
I DUNNO MAN NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR SMASH 4[/quote]
you don't need a carbon copy of an older game for it to be good.
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