Stop switching to the crowd when action is happening please.

Also still think there's lack of content or information in between games.

Not trying to pull my own stuff but I think you guys could show for example comp.tf brackets so people know whats going on, honestly its much more userfriendly than multiplay brackets.

Also yesterday you were using alerts for useless stuff, today you used alerts earlier today really in an awesome way, which is announcing other team results as they are coming in, so far this afternoon didn't see any new alerts, we really need to know some stuff from the other important games, there're like 8 games happening at the same time and not once was a mention of another game. Just pop an alert like every 5 or 10 mins with current map results for other games and 1 alert when each game ends.

And for the love of god get some content on the dead time, even showing the brackets or group results or whatever would do, as I said, feel free to use comp.tf. Showing some fragmovies would be awesome as well, for ex, last year's contest fragmovies

Also keep us informed with the next game / map being casted or played

All I heard was sal hyping up b4nny every second.

Sal needs to quit calling games for HRG with 4 minutes left :-/

Not only because he's confusing improbable with impossible scenarios, but he's basically telling new viewers to tune out because there's no point in watching.

if i would be a new viewer and would tune in the stream now, i would think the event is over.
There really should be something on screen to see what game is up next

This has been probably the major problem since the start, not trying to be picky but its really really a rookie mistake

There should really be something like Epsilon vs XXX coming up in 30 mins, or "You can check brackets at thissite.com" and please use alerts for us to know about the other games.

Casters should NEVER do this. Assuming a push or even a round is like a cardinal sin for me when it comes to viewing a cast. It happened a lot during the ESEA lan too so it's not just Sal.

I've been mostly watching on and off with my phone for the past day but from what I've seen is that they've been using the "extra" stuff way too much during the casts. Even if you love icing, making a cake out of just icing ruins the cake. I don't need to see damage stats on screen until the end of the round/very start of new round. I don't need to see split screen other than Demoman rollouts or double off classing (I liked the Sniper v. Sniper split screen). I haven't seen the alerts people are talking about but I'd make sure to post them up only during a stalemate (unless it's a huge upset). No one will care about a random score if people are fighting, it'll just be distracting.

Also are the casters not using the spec plugins? The casters were completely oblivious to some of the aggressive pushes from iM when normally it would be stalematey. Talking about a stalemate when a team is doing a ballsy push makes me think they can't see the players through the walls like the camera guy can.

I could go on a bit more about more pet peevy things but it's not worth it because the stream is still really entertaining! Yuki and Sheep going huge for iM! I can't wait to watch the rest on my computer for the next two days now that I'm home.

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We have had for the last 1 hour that the game is at 7pm BST. Before that we had games and interviews.

This is LAN, things aren't really 'scheduled' as such unfortunately. We have tried to keep things going but we do need breaks!

We hope you enjoy the rest of the evening

Talking to the crowd between maps is by far the worst idea you've had.
It's like a stream chat, only worse, and I can't avoid it by going fullscreen.

VTV always fail to see these trainwrecks coming.

Yeah, I'd much prefer a look at the logs with the casters (or at least someone who watched the match!!!) talking about who went big, what went wrong, etc. Examining each map by itself would be really interesting. Or interviews with players from other teams on their impressions of the match.

You guys forget that the LAN cast isn't 100% aimed at online viewers. If it were, our setup would be a hell of a lot more simple.

Big Craig Coleman casts over on vtv 2 this is classic

pls stop calling HRG the American's

Is VTV2 supposed to be this.... unprofessional?

Yeah leaving the stream to those drunk idiots is very unprofessional..

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vtv2...

They need to fix the sound problems in general and start doing normal, uninterrupted interviews that are not abruptly cut off. Byte also needs to stop acting like he's drunk, what is wrong with this guy.

More shintaz and coleman

Just curious, how many people at LAN do you have viewing the cast? Cuz there were more than 4000 viewing the stream at points today.

Come on, they were just enjoying themselves, and it was being highly entertaining for us as well... At least it wasn't in the main stream and yet it managed to go from 200 to 800 viewers because obviously it was funny for that many people.

I think there were many more severe problems through the day that should require more attention than this little "funtime".

It isn't that straightforward that you can make a direct comparison of the numbers though.

They can call them the Americans, even if they have Cyzer, it's not a big deal. Calling them "Haich Our Gee" is 10x worse.

Part of that was because TCM vs Infused had just ended on the main stream.

can we have a countdown timer until next match, would be cool.

I'm not sure they really know when the game are actually starting tbh.

Can you explain? I'm honestly not trying to be snarky, just trying to understand.

I'm not associated with VTV in any way, but I feel like they're obligated to aim the casts at least partially towards the people who are there in person, probably having paid a notable amount of money and taking time out of their lives to be part of the LAN experience even if they're not playing, versus you or me in the comfort of our homes. They dedicated time and money to being there, they deserve something for their support.

Not really - they paid that money and devoted that time because they *wanted* to be part of the LAN experience. I don't really think the nature of VTV's coverage played any factor in their decisions to go. What they do deserve is decent coverage, just as the people at home do.
Which leads me to a further question: Why should the people who are there have different standards for what is good in coverage for them? Whether they're watching on-site or online, they're watching because they have an interest in competitive TF2, so the same principles should apply in producing a quality product for both audiences.

I only got to see the stream from 11am-12pm today, but what I saw impressed me. The HUD looked good, the Sal+Arx cast was entertaining and professional sounding, the actual stream quality (with the glow-plugin) was awesome, the flashed damaged stats was really really informative, and the dual screen-cap was like a casters wet dreams to me.

I'm sure many of these complaints are well-founded, but knowing what it's like to cast, I was really impressed with how smooth the portion I saw went, and how stream-lined it appeared.

If I was a first-time tf2 watcher I would have been very impressed with how tight the content being offered was disseminated.