Please remove turbine from the rotation list. thank you.
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What's wrong with it? It's not like you're actually playing ctf. The only problem with Turbine (imo) is that it's stuck in the wrong game mode.
What's wrong with it? It's not like you're actually playing ctf. The only problem with Turbine (imo) is that it's stuck in the wrong game mode.
turbine is fine
speaking of dm, people need be kicked off of spec faster
i've seen people afk there for the whole map
turbine is fine
speaking of dm, people need be kicked off of spec faster
i've seen people afk there for the whole map
speaking of dm, people need be kicked off of spec faster
i've seen people afk there for the whole map
flatlineWhat's wrong with it? It's not like you're actually playing ctf. The only problem with Turbine (imo) is that it's stuck in the wrong game mode.
I think some problems with it are that it's too small, really flat, and the spawners all spawn right in the middle of the fray. It's really chaotic and IMO not very fun although I do like all of the other DM maps on Fog's server.
Turbine isn't played in any leagues anymore (right?). I'd like to see it removed but if it stays no big deal.
Also I like the metalworks addition, gj Fog.
[quote=flatline]What's wrong with it? It's not like you're actually playing ctf. The only problem with Turbine (imo) is that it's stuck in the wrong game mode.[/quote]
I think some problems with it are that it's too small, really flat, and the spawners all spawn right in the middle of the fray. It's really chaotic and IMO not very fun although I do like all of the other DM maps on Fog's server.
Turbine isn't played in any leagues anymore (right?). I'd like to see it removed but if it stays no big deal.
Also I like the metalworks addition, gj Fog.
I think some problems with it are that it's too small, really flat, and the spawners all spawn right in the middle of the fray. It's really chaotic and IMO not very fun although I do like all of the other DM maps on Fog's server.
Turbine isn't played in any leagues anymore (right?). I'd like to see it removed but if it stays no big deal.
Also I like the metalworks addition, gj Fog.
vileturbine is a great dm map.
Why do you think it's a great DM map?
YeeegzI think some problems with it are that it's too small, really flat, and the spawners all spawn right in the middle of the fray. It's really chaotic and IMO not very fun although I do like all of the other DM maps on Fog's server.
Turbine isn't played in any leagues anymore (right?). I'd like to see it removed but if it stays no big deal.
These are some excellent points.
[quote=vile]turbine is a great dm map.[/quote]
Why do you think it's a great DM map?
[quote=Yeeegz]I think some problems with it are that it's too small, really flat, and the spawners all spawn right in the middle of the fray. It's really chaotic and IMO not very fun although I do like all of the other DM maps on Fog's server.
Turbine isn't played in any leagues anymore (right?). I'd like to see it removed but if it stays no big deal.[/quote]
These are some excellent points.
Why do you think it's a great DM map?
[quote=Yeeegz]I think some problems with it are that it's too small, really flat, and the spawners all spawn right in the middle of the fray. It's really chaotic and IMO not very fun although I do like all of the other DM maps on Fog's server.
Turbine isn't played in any leagues anymore (right?). I'd like to see it removed but if it stays no big deal.[/quote]
These are some excellent points.
turbine is a good dm map. I don't know why you would want to take it off.
turbine is a good dm map. I don't know why you would want to take it off.
i feel like turbine is way too confined to be a good dm map once it's over 6 people
a lot of the times people just get up to the high ground and spam down rockets (at least whenever i played in the map), and i have also noticed demomen end up accidentally spawn camping people if they ever decide to use stickies in dm
some people even switch to demo and just actually spawncamp the spawns under the balcony area since it's an area that a lot of people go through and people spawn there often
i feel like turbine is way too confined to be a good dm map once it's over 6 people
a lot of the times people just get up to the high ground and spam down rockets (at least whenever i played in the map), and i have also noticed demomen end up accidentally spawn camping people if they ever decide to use stickies in dm
some people even switch to demo and just actually spawncamp the spawns under the balcony area since it's an area that a lot of people go through and people spawn there often
a lot of the times people just get up to the high ground and spam down rockets (at least whenever i played in the map), and i have also noticed demomen end up accidentally spawn camping people if they ever decide to use stickies in dm
some people even switch to demo and just actually spawncamp the spawns under the balcony area since it's an area that a lot of people go through and people spawn there often
Mikeikeikeikeikeikevileturbine is a great dm map.Why do you think it's a great DM map?YeeegzI think some problems with it are that it's too small, really flat, and the spawners all spawn right in the middle of the fray. It's really chaotic and IMO not very fun although I do like all of the other DM maps on Fog's server.These are some excellent points.
Turbine isn't played in any leagues anymore (right?). I'd like to see it removed but if it stays no big deal.
for starters, it doesn't have shit spawns.
granary - yard (wtf?)
badlands - spire/forward (wtf?)
gpit - long b tunnels (wtf?)
i have no clue why these were never fixed.
there are more but i don't remember too well. i don't dm. on turbine, you don't really have to look for your enemies. i really like not having to spend half the time to find people.
[quote=Mikeikeikeikeikeike][quote=vile]turbine is a great dm map.[/quote]
Why do you think it's a great DM map?
[quote=Yeeegz]I think some problems with it are that it's too small, really flat, and the spawners all spawn right in the middle of the fray. It's really chaotic and IMO not very fun although I do like all of the other DM maps on Fog's server.
Turbine isn't played in any leagues anymore (right?). I'd like to see it removed but if it stays no big deal.[/quote]
These are some excellent points.[/quote]
for starters, it doesn't have shit spawns.
granary - yard (wtf?)
badlands - spire/forward (wtf?)
gpit - long b tunnels (wtf?)
i have no clue why these were never fixed.
there are more but i don't remember too well. i don't dm. on turbine, you don't really have to look for your enemies. i really like not having to spend half the time to find people.
Why do you think it's a great DM map?
[quote=Yeeegz]I think some problems with it are that it's too small, really flat, and the spawners all spawn right in the middle of the fray. It's really chaotic and IMO not very fun although I do like all of the other DM maps on Fog's server.
Turbine isn't played in any leagues anymore (right?). I'd like to see it removed but if it stays no big deal.[/quote]
These are some excellent points.[/quote]
for starters, it doesn't have shit spawns.
granary - yard (wtf?)
badlands - spire/forward (wtf?)
gpit - long b tunnels (wtf?)
i have no clue why these were never fixed.
there are more but i don't remember too well. i don't dm. on turbine, you don't really have to look for your enemies. i really like not having to spend half the time to find people.
biggest problem with turbine is demomen who sit up top in and spam ppl with stickies then when u pressure them they just go into the vents and put a stickytrap
biggest problem with turbine is demomen who sit up top in and spam ppl with stickies then when u pressure them they just go into the vents and put a stickytrap
vileMikeikeikeikeikeikevileturbine is a great dm map.Why do you think it's a great DM map?YeeegzI think some problems with it are that it's too small, really flat, and the spawners all spawn right in the middle of the fray. It's really chaotic and IMO not very fun although I do like all of the other DM maps on Fog's server.These are some excellent points.
Turbine isn't played in any leagues anymore (right?). I'd like to see it removed but if it stays no big deal.
for starters, it doesn't have shit spawns.
granary - yard (wtf?)
badlands - spire/forward (wtf?)
gpit - long b tunnels (wtf?)
i have no clue why these were never fixed.
there are more but i don't remember too well. i don't dm. on turbine, you don't really have to look for your enemies. i really like not having to spend half the time to find people.
granary and badlands and gpit are irrelevant. we're talking about turbine. and turbine does have shit spawns (if you define shit spawn as spawning in front of people or confined locations)
i have 0 trouble finding anyone in any of the maps. you say for starters but that was the only argument you brought up.
[quote=vile][quote=Mikeikeikeikeikeike][quote=vile]turbine is a great dm map.[/quote]
Why do you think it's a great DM map?
[quote=Yeeegz]I think some problems with it are that it's too small, really flat, and the spawners all spawn right in the middle of the fray. It's really chaotic and IMO not very fun although I do like all of the other DM maps on Fog's server.
Turbine isn't played in any leagues anymore (right?). I'd like to see it removed but if it stays no big deal.[/quote]
These are some excellent points.[/quote]
for starters, it doesn't have shit spawns.
granary - yard (wtf?)
badlands - spire/forward (wtf?)
gpit - long b tunnels (wtf?)
i have no clue why these were never fixed.
there are more but i don't remember too well. i don't dm. on turbine, you don't really have to look for your enemies. i really like not having to spend half the time to find people.[/quote]
granary and badlands and gpit are irrelevant. we're talking about turbine. and turbine does have shit spawns (if you define shit spawn as spawning in front of people or confined locations)
i have 0 trouble finding anyone in any of the maps. you say for starters but that was the only argument you brought up.
Why do you think it's a great DM map?
[quote=Yeeegz]I think some problems with it are that it's too small, really flat, and the spawners all spawn right in the middle of the fray. It's really chaotic and IMO not very fun although I do like all of the other DM maps on Fog's server.
Turbine isn't played in any leagues anymore (right?). I'd like to see it removed but if it stays no big deal.[/quote]
These are some excellent points.[/quote]
for starters, it doesn't have shit spawns.
granary - yard (wtf?)
badlands - spire/forward (wtf?)
gpit - long b tunnels (wtf?)
i have no clue why these were never fixed.
there are more but i don't remember too well. i don't dm. on turbine, you don't really have to look for your enemies. i really like not having to spend half the time to find people.[/quote]
granary and badlands and gpit are irrelevant. we're talking about turbine. and turbine does have shit spawns (if you define shit spawn as spawning in front of people or confined locations)
i have 0 trouble finding anyone in any of the maps. you say for starters but that was the only argument you brought up.
vilegranary - yard (wtf?)
badlands - spire/forward (wtf?)
gpit - long b tunnels (wtf?)
Those are all good spawns, because they don't spawn you in a spot where you die before you get a chance to move your mouse. 8 people can be a lot in a single fight at times, and thinning it out makes DM better imo.
On topic, I think Turbine is a good DM map if you don't play scout. It's too enclosed, and with all the spawns so close, you often die 5 times in a row before you get a decent enough life to kill anything.
[quote=vile]
granary - yard (wtf?)
badlands - spire/forward (wtf?)
gpit - long b tunnels (wtf?)
[/quote]
Those are all good spawns, because they don't spawn you in a spot where you die before you get a chance to move your mouse. 8 people can be a lot in a single fight at times, and thinning it out makes DM better imo.
On topic, I think Turbine is a good DM map if you don't play scout. It's too enclosed, and with all the spawns so close, you often die 5 times in a row before you get a decent enough life to kill anything.
granary - yard (wtf?)
badlands - spire/forward (wtf?)
gpit - long b tunnels (wtf?)
[/quote]
Those are all good spawns, because they don't spawn you in a spot where you die before you get a chance to move your mouse. 8 people can be a lot in a single fight at times, and thinning it out makes DM better imo.
On topic, I think Turbine is a good DM map if you don't play scout. It's too enclosed, and with all the spawns so close, you often die 5 times in a row before you get a decent enough life to kill anything.
The crates on turbine don't really bother me because they aren't high enough to abuse without much consequence.
Granary though, I see soldiers and demos sitting up on those huge high crates in DM, and that bothers me.
The crates on turbine don't really bother me because they aren't high enough to abuse without much consequence.
Granary though, I see soldiers and demos sitting up on those huge high crates in DM, and that bothers me.
Granary though, I see soldiers and demos sitting up on those huge high crates in DM, and that bothers me.
who cares if you get instagibbed on spawn in turbine, you spawn right at the action anyway
much more preferable to shit maps where you have to run through a choke to get to mid
who cares if you get instagibbed on spawn in turbine, you spawn right at the action anyway
much more preferable to shit maps where you have to run through a choke to get to mid
much more preferable to shit maps where you have to run through a choke to get to mid
OOVOOVwho cares if you get instagibbed on spawn in turbine, you spawn right at the action anyway
much more preferable to shit maps where you have to run through a choke to get to mid
i care about not being able to actually play for how ever long it takes to die 5 or 10 times and the turbine mid feels like a choke. you also don't always have to go through chokes and no one watches the chokes 24/7
[quote=OOVOOV]who cares if you get instagibbed on spawn in turbine, you spawn right at the action anyway
much more preferable to shit maps where you have to run through a choke to get to mid[/quote]
i care about not being able to actually play for how ever long it takes to die 5 or 10 times and the turbine mid feels like a choke. you also don't always have to go through chokes and no one watches the chokes 24/7
much more preferable to shit maps where you have to run through a choke to get to mid[/quote]
i care about not being able to actually play for how ever long it takes to die 5 or 10 times and the turbine mid feels like a choke. you also don't always have to go through chokes and no one watches the chokes 24/7
I hope it makes you happy fog was thinking about quitting.
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11556/1
No more DM servers if he does, which means (goody for you) no turbine DM.
So deal with a DM map where you actually get more time to shoot dudes than running over to them
I hope it makes you happy fog was thinking about quitting.
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11556/1
No more DM servers if he does, which means (goody for you) no turbine DM.
So deal with a DM map where you actually get more time to shoot dudes than running over to them
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11556/1
No more DM servers if he does, which means (goody for you) no turbine DM.
So deal with a DM map where you actually get more time to shoot dudes than running over to them
PacifistI hope it makes you happy fog was thinking about quitting.
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11556/1
No more DM servers if he does, which means (goody for you) no turbine DM.
So deal with a DM map where you actually get more time to shoot dudes than running over to them
I'd rather play turbine DM than no DM at all, you idiot.
[quote=Pacifist]I hope it makes you happy fog was thinking about quitting.
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11556/1
No more DM servers if he does, which means (goody for you) no turbine DM.
So deal with a DM map where you actually get more time to shoot dudes than running over to them[/quote]
I'd rather play turbine DM than no DM at all, you idiot.
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11556/1
No more DM servers if he does, which means (goody for you) no turbine DM.
So deal with a DM map where you actually get more time to shoot dudes than running over to them[/quote]
I'd rather play turbine DM than no DM at all, you idiot.
Why not make a 24/7 turbine DM for the people who love it
and take it out of the rotation servers for the people who hate it???
Why not make a 24/7 turbine DM for the people who love it
and take it out of the rotation servers for the people who hate it???
and take it out of the rotation servers for the people who hate it???
PacifistI hope it makes you happy fog was thinking about quitting.
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11556/1
No more DM servers if he does, which means (goody for you) no turbine DM.
So deal with a DM map where you actually get more time to shoot dudes than running over to them
Does me not liking his DM server mean he's gonna quit? I'd really be impressed if I could hate a server to death.
[quote=Pacifist]I hope it makes you happy fog was thinking about quitting.
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11556/1
No more DM servers if he does, which means (goody for you) no turbine DM.
So deal with a DM map where you actually get more time to shoot dudes than running over to them[/quote]
Does me not liking his DM server mean he's gonna quit? I'd really be impressed if I could hate a server to death.
http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11556/1
No more DM servers if he does, which means (goody for you) no turbine DM.
So deal with a DM map where you actually get more time to shoot dudes than running over to them[/quote]
Does me not liking his DM server mean he's gonna quit? I'd really be impressed if I could hate a server to death.
wareyaWhy not make a 24/7 turbine DM for the people who love it
and take it out of the rotation servers for the people who hate it???
you gonna provide the server for that?
[quote=wareya]Why not make a 24/7 turbine DM for the people who love it
and take it out of the rotation servers for the people who hate it???[/quote]
you gonna provide the server for that?
and take it out of the rotation servers for the people who hate it???[/quote]
you gonna provide the server for that?
miloyou gonna provide the server for that?
why not adapt a dead one?
http://www.game-monitor.com/tf2_GameServer/74.91.114.34:27015/TeamFortress.TV__Dallas_DM_Server_2__-_Provided_by_Fog.html
[quote=milo]you gonna provide the server for that?[/quote]
why not adapt a dead one?
http://www.game-monitor.com/tf2_GameServer/74.91.114.34:27015/TeamFortress.TV__Dallas_DM_Server_2__-_Provided_by_Fog.html
why not adapt a dead one?
http://www.game-monitor.com/tf2_GameServer/74.91.114.34:27015/TeamFortress.TV__Dallas_DM_Server_2__-_Provided_by_Fog.html
thinking of the alternatives im pretty sure turbine is the best map to play dm on actually
the highground is less abusable than gpit/gran/process and theres no choke fucking like gully/blands
thinking of the alternatives im pretty sure turbine is the best map to play dm on actually
the highground is less abusable than gpit/gran/process and theres no choke fucking like gully/blands
the highground is less abusable than gpit/gran/process and theres no choke fucking like gully/blands
noone wants to pay money because 3 people complain about a map on a forum
noone wants to pay money because 3 people complain about a map on a forum
It's more than "3 people complain about a map on a forum"
It's more than "3 people complain about a map on a forum"
2cthinking of the alternatives im pretty sure turbine is the best map to play dm on actually
the highground is less abusable than gpit/gran/process and theres no choke fucking like gully/blands
this is true, + the point is not to live in dm anyway, so who really cares if people spawn during your fights? not really important... it's practice after all.
[quote=2c]thinking of the alternatives im pretty sure turbine is the best map to play dm on actually
the highground is less abusable than gpit/gran/process and theres no choke fucking like gully/blands[/quote]
this is true, + the point is not to live in dm anyway, so who really cares if people spawn during your fights? not really important... it's practice after all.
the highground is less abusable than gpit/gran/process and theres no choke fucking like gully/blands[/quote]
this is true, + the point is not to live in dm anyway, so who really cares if people spawn during your fights? not really important... it's practice after all.
As the "person who owns the tf.tv DM servers", no.
As the "person who owns the tf.tv DM servers", no.
I never liked Turbine as an overall DM map. I'm not a fan of small, clustered DMing, but a lot of people do so I don't bother fighting against having it.
I never liked Turbine as an overall DM map. I'm not a fan of small, clustered DMing, but a lot of people do so I don't bother fighting against having it.
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