When have you experienced them, how did you overcome them, what was hindering you?
I think I'm currently at a skill plateau, after buying my new computer around April I improved like tenfold for a few weeks since the old setup was really hindering me, but after the first few weeks I feel I have reached a plateau and it has been some months now. I have tried to keep practise consistent or semi-consistent but it isn't doing it for me...
Actually I am noticing a huge improvement as scout/sniper the past few weeks so I feel I have not yet reached the plateau at it, but I am getting a little frustrated as a solly/demo.
When have you experienced them, how did you overcome them, what was hindering you?
I think I'm currently at a skill plateau, after buying my new computer around April I improved like tenfold for a few weeks since the old setup was really hindering me, but after the first few weeks I feel I have reached a plateau and it has been some months now. I have tried to keep practise consistent or semi-consistent but it isn't doing it for me...
Actually I am noticing a huge improvement as scout/sniper the past few weeks so I feel I have not yet reached the plateau at it, but I am getting a little frustrated as a solly/demo.
it's just slow, steady improvement so it's not as noticeable. keep gaming.
it's just slow, steady improvement so it's not as noticeable. keep gaming.
Steroids are the fastest way to overcome any plateau.
Steroids are the fastest way to overcome any plateau.
dunno if its just me, but playing different classes helped me get a lot better at scout.
dunno if its just me, but playing different classes helped me get a lot better at scout.
i watched an infinite amount of anime so i became very stronk
also a bunch of jump maps and playing not-tf2 for a while
i watched an infinite amount of anime so i became very stronk
also a bunch of jump maps and playing not-tf2 for a while
Playing with/against better players is one of the best ways to break through a plateau IMO.
Playing with/against better players is one of the best ways to break through a plateau IMO.
It's easy goy, just buy a Bigfoot Killer
It's easy goy, just buy a Bigfoot Killer
well, everyone eventually does his a plateau. I "overcame" mine by just understanding the stupid decisions i make every game. But essentially like marmaduke said, you wont notice any major improvement, you will just steadily move up.
well, everyone eventually does his a plateau. I "overcame" mine by just understanding the stupid decisions i make every game. But essentially like marmaduke said, you wont notice any major improvement, you will just steadily move up.
what do you get when heaton and spawn design a monitor?
what do you get when heaton and spawn design a monitor?
Sometimes just taking a short break from the game can help, it's something that tends to work
Sometimes just taking a short break from the game can help, it's something that tends to work
go over your demos with people better than you
go over your demos with people better than you
watch a lot of games. spectate a lot.
watch a lot of games. spectate a lot.
Depends on how you learn and adapt best, if you can at all
some people learn quickest with an academic approach; reviewing demos, going over scrim/match statistics, watching tf2 videos/commentaries and utilizing all the advice they give.
Some people like to use a more social approach; going over strategies/demos and talking stuff out, playing cooperative games with your fellow teammates to build cohesion, etc.
I also think one of the best ways to get the hang of something is repetition, which would be just continuing to do what you're currently doing now.
Depends on how you learn and adapt best, if you can at all
some people learn quickest with an academic approach; reviewing demos, going over scrim/match statistics, watching tf2 videos/commentaries and utilizing all the advice they give.
Some people like to use a more social approach; going over strategies/demos and talking stuff out, playing cooperative games with your fellow teammates to build cohesion, etc.
I also think one of the best ways to get the hang of something is repetition, which would be just continuing to do what you're currently doing now.
find people better than you and be a tolerable enough person so that they either dont mind carrying you or will practice with you for hours a day
find people better than you and be a tolerable enough person so that they either dont mind carrying you or will practice with you for hours a day
i know what you need
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Z90O1yv.jpg[/img]
Just gotta play a lot and use your time constructively. Don't just play to play if you want to improve.
100 hours of DM/MGE/Scrims/Demo reviews/good pugs will do way more than 500 hours of goofing off in pugs not taking them seriously, or lobbying, or pubbing.
And be critical of yourself and (at least internally) others. If you don't critique you'll never know what needs improvement and what works/doesn't.
Just gotta play a lot and use your time constructively. Don't just play to play if you want to improve.
100 hours of DM/MGE/Scrims/Demo reviews/good pugs will do way more than 500 hours of goofing off in pugs not taking them seriously, or lobbying, or pubbing.
And be critical of yourself and (at least internally) others. If you don't critique you'll never know what needs improvement and what works/doesn't.
Play other games and try not to get burnt out. Be confident in the fact that as Marmaduke said you are improving, it just happens to be slowly. Everyone improves at different rates, its all about what you put in and your intentions while doing so.
Play other games and try not to get burnt out. Be confident in the fact that as Marmaduke said you are improving, it just happens to be slowly. Everyone improves at different rates, its all about what you put in and your intentions while doing so.
zigzterPlaying with/against better players is one of the best ways to break through a plateau IMO.
exactly this
[quote=zigzter]Playing with/against better players is one of the best ways to break through a plateau IMO.[/quote]
exactly this
[img]http://www.gamer-grip.com/product_images/uploaded_images/get-a-grip-on-your-game-tube.jpg[/img]
Stop thinking you hit a plateau.
Start realizing you suck.
Sopapilla
Stop thinking you hit a plateau.
Start realizing you suck.
Sopapilla
#21, your post reminded me of these
holy shit. they are so good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sopaipilla.jpg
#21, your post reminded me of these
holy shit. they are so good.
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sopaipilla.jpg]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sopaipilla.jpg[/url]
RikachuStop thinking you hit a plateau.
Start realizing you suck.
Sopapilla
Hey fuck you.
[quote=Rikachu]Stop thinking you hit a plateau.
[b]Start realizing you suck.[/b]
Sopapilla[/quote]
Hey fuck you.
I mean plenty of people plateau cause their mistakes become so tiny that they're impossible to analyze/fix unless you watch after the fact or get them pointed out and most people just want to play video games
ssaying they dont exist is just lyin but the underlying reason is generally laziness
I mean plenty of people plateau cause their mistakes become so tiny that they're impossible to analyze/fix unless you watch after the fact or get them pointed out and most people just want to play video games
ssaying they dont exist is just lyin but the underlying reason is generally laziness
i think my comment mostly applies to people that spend 5hrs a day refining their mge instead of watching matches over from theirs/others perspective tho
i think my comment mostly applies to people that spend 5hrs a day refining their mge instead of watching matches over from theirs/others perspective tho
if you're playing MGE to get better you're wasting your time
if you're playing MGE to get better you're wasting your time
Take a break from actually playing and just watch games. Don't play for like a week.
Take a break from actually playing and just watch games. Don't play for like a week.
alfaif you're playing MGE to get better you're wasting your time
At first I mge'd mostly and it was one of the things that really helped me step up my dm but now it just wont do it and I think I have grown tired of mge and the not so pleasant people there. Mostly I dm nowadays and mix it up with pugs and pcws of course and mge only if I feel like it...
I was actually talking mainly of a dm plateau, because I think I am improving my gamesense and have not reached a plateau in that area, just need to spend a bit more time analyzing my mistakes and thinking about what I do wrong, but dm-wise, while I think it's good for my division (div4-3 etf2l) I am struggling to improve it further.
[quote=alfa]if you're playing MGE to get better you're wasting your time[/quote]
At first I mge'd mostly and it was one of the things that really helped me step up my dm but now it just wont do it and I think I have grown tired of mge and the not so pleasant people there. Mostly I dm nowadays and mix it up with pugs and pcws of course and mge only if I feel like it...
I was actually talking mainly of a dm plateau, because I think I am improving my gamesense and have not reached a plateau in that area, just need to spend a bit more time analyzing my mistakes and thinking about what I do wrong, but dm-wise, while I think it's good for my division (div4-3 etf2l) I am struggling to improve it further.
Saberi watched an infinite amount of anime so i became very stronk
[quote=Saber]i watched an infinite amount of anime so i became very stronk[/quote]
In my experience, getting shitstomped and then spending the next half hour going over why you were shitstomped is a great way to get better. Even with stuff like DM, you can often tell what you were doing wrong and how to fix it.
In my experience, getting shitstomped and then spending the next half hour going over why you were shitstomped is a great way to get better. Even with stuff like DM, you can often tell what you were doing wrong and how to fix it.