Please be pay to play CEVO. If people want to play for free they can play in UGC. I don't think anyone would have a problem with a 5 dollar league fee.

You guys are so cheap 15$!

My team will be competing next season. Hope to see you all there!

$15 will still be only about half of what an open player currently plays in esea

~100$ per team is a good start.

I fucking love you guys ;_;

I think this is key. The point is to replace ESEA, and if a free league would cut it, then UGC would probably be alright.

i hope this happens so that i can finally say "i'm a cevo-a champion" without sounding like an idiot.

Cevo has historically been a pay to play league, they're probably only free now to entice teams to play. Also having users pay for the league is not the only means of creating a good prize pot.

Even if everyone moved to Cevo, you still wouldn't be able to say that :P

Yes, but the only other ways are sponsorships and donations. We've established that TF2 has few sponsors, and ETF2L's prizes aren't too great with sponsors and donations. I think ETF2L's sponsors just negate the cost of the league, while the donations are what the prizes come from.

LAN is how we actually get new players into TF2.

Just curious, why are you guys encouraging fees so much? I appreciate what Cevo is doing, I just don't understand why you want to force people to throw money at them. If you want to donate, feel free. I'll probably chip in a bit even if I don't play comp next season, I just don't think it should be forced down everyone's throats to pay league fees. Also, if Cevo makes any mistake, no matter how small, there will be people complaining that they had to pay for the season and that mistakes shouldn't happen.
Like I mentioned before (bottom of page 1) there could be an division open to everyone and free to play, and then a more advanced league fee division that has prizes.

The viewers won't notice the difference between ESEA LAN finals and CEVO online finals.

Also: by your logic, ETF2L doesn't exist, since EU TF2 doesn't have a LAN every season which means literally no one is playing.

before cevo even considers league fees, they need to see how season 4 which will (supposedly by all these forum posts contain WAY more players than what there is right now) will pan out. If season 4 of cevo becomes a success and great alternative to esea, then they should consider implementing fees for the next season/s to come. But for now, they don't need fucking league fees.

but it would be cool if they could provide servers and pour some money into web development because the site is kinda bad right now (in addition to having a good prize pot)

I don't think moving to a different league will make the game more competitive in invite. P sure the same 2-3 teams will win invite over and over again because they're just the best.

I think his argument was that not having a LAN doesn't really matter. He didn't say it would be more competitive.

we need a salary cap in tf2

why?

I agree with this. The next season should be donations only, while the following becomes $12 entry.

Somebody on the first or second page mentioned someone who claimed they would put up $6,000 for a new leagues prize pot? Take $3,000 of that and put it to the prize pot next season (including whatever other donations come in, of course). If the season works well and people are pleased, CEVO sets up the $12 entry fee for the following season. They will have plenty of money to keep people interested, while being able to look into LANs. Worst case is they have another $3,000 from the initial donation for another free-to-play season to continue trying to figure things out. whoever's talking about donating 6,000 is crazy though :p

Everybody takes it a little more seriously when they have some skin in the game. A larger prize pot will also encourage a higher level of competition. There is a shit ton of infrastructure improvements that have to be made that will take some capital.

My biggest fear is the first season going horribly and everybody jumping ship after that.

But at least the community won't have to pay for the other two teams to go to Dallas just to get shit on by them.

http://puu.sh/5pF0I.png

holy shit

Thanks for the support everyone! All of us at CEVO are super excited about the potential influx of new teams coming on board for Season 4 and we're going to do our best to make sure that everyone's ideas and suggestions for the league are taken into consideration.

AG| Nahanni is going to be organizing a "town hall" meeting of sorts at some point next week that will give everyone an opportunity to ask us any questions that you may have about CEVO and our plans for TF2 Season 4 and beyond.

Thanks,

Chris Pipher
General Manager
CEVO.com

new league fee: you have to make a graphical representation of your team joining cevo to play

trade hats to cover league fees

True, I just feel like mistakes are magnified to the extreme when customers are paying for the service. I feel like if the 1st season had a league fee, and Cevo made a mistake, we'd be right back to jumping ships to a new league...

So

When does the next CEVO season start?

And will there be a linux client?