thanks m8

can we all just play videogames together without malware :(

Yo signed up for the free bans?

Cheers

Timon

Are you saying.

That Bob Johnson and I.

Could save TF2?

I will DM 12 hours a day if this is what it takes.

You make about $1,200 winning first place at LAN. Depending where you live it's definitely profitable. TF2 IS slowly dying whether you'd like to admit it or not. It's the inevitable. These things do not last forever. Peoples priorities in this community aren't to put the game first. It's to put their little egos and clicks first. Instead of really producing positive things for the community it's just a big forum filled with children trolls -fragging things that are real and trying to be witty and cool when you just look like a moron. +frags the things that will entertain the 14 year olds and get nothing done just continuing the bickering.

A lot of other competitive scenes don't have money prizes. ie. most other TF2 communities. This is a video game. None of us are pro gamers. Not the invite players, no one. This is a small time game. We don't win mega money most people play for pride, competition and most importantly, for fun. We should all be a brotherhood instead of nagging like little bitches over and over again on a forum over dumb shit. If the top invite players don't follow suit who cares there will be others who step in. Invite would be a lot more exciting not being monopolized anyway. These forums are a troll fest filled with a bunch of fakes. Look in the mirror and be real with yourself for a moment. Most of you are barely above lobby level and have no idea what you're talking about yet you spout your opinions like you're some expert. Listen to the guys with experience and years of being around. Just my take.

Just because someone is good at a video game doesn't mean their common sense is any good

If your common sense was any good you'd probably be good at video games.

if only that was true

I'm guessing with that logic, you're terrible at video games

To make it to invite you need to have pretty good common sense. The game is too strategical, team-work oriented, decision making, communication, requiring high synergy amongst 6 players. The ones without common sense are the ones who lag along in the lower divisions over and over again. Much like yourself and many others posting. Again. Be real here, look in the mirror, and do everyone a favor and try to be helpful instead of a twit starting arguments fishing for +frags.

What is your obsession with mirrors

Common sense does not equal game sense, and I'll take all the +frags man I don't even give a fuck in fact I'll -frag myself it doesn't actually matter

http://i.imgur.com/zEPQdUZ.jpg

Reality is the elliott's and omni's could retire tomorrow and nobody would give a shit or even notice. Platinum and b4nny retiring would all of a sudden kill TF2 immediately? Platinum and b4nnys main issues are that anyone who comes up to challenge them that are good enough to do so, usually end up on one of their teams eventually anyway. It's a team game individuals do not win. There's plenty of talent in invite just not balanced. Of course the individuals will be more willing to join the already established best of the best instead of trying to take them down as another team. So the top of invite created a monster thats now causing them to not enjoy competing anymore.. Platinums quote "clockwork, lansky, Rando, yz50" everyone with the exception of rando and many more have been on either his or b4nnys team. Plenty of other names to throw into that list as well such as Ruwin. That's what happens.

Captain Obvious out.

I don't know why you'd even assume that I'd the want attention for "retiring". I play the game because I want too, not so I gain the respect and adoration of others. I don't give a shit if someone cares if I play the game or not. 2 of the highest ranking players leaving would also not kill the game. It would kill the skill level considerably, sure, but not the game. I don't ever remember joining 6v6 because of b4nny or platinum, so if they left it wouldn't affect me in the slightest.

I'm also not sure where you're going with the rest of it because you seem to just be saying stuff that everyone is aware of.

EDIT: it seems to be a running theme that people think the game will die based on who leaves. The way I think you mean is that the game will die from a spectators standpoint. People will not want to watch the shittier players play, but that doesn't mean the shittier players don't want to play and will stop playing. Please understand that some people play comp TF2 because they like the format and that's pretty much it.

No.

rofl, it's like iT and mix up then theres the rest of invite, that's what people mean when they say it's not competitive.

If you have to call yourself captain obvious, you're not

This seems to be a big problem with the state of the game. If you do not care about the adoration or respect of others, then you are playing the wrong game. I've always strived to be the best and be recognized as the best, and that's where I feel my competitive drive comes from. How can you be competitive without any drive for recognition? People who are the best will be modest, but they want to be recognized. Deep down every comp player enjoys attention, whether they admit to it or not.

heh

what?

It isn't just platinum that thinks the game will be worse off. Sizable amount of invite agrees, but the opinion isn't gonna be popular among people who aren't playing at top levels because it comes off as 'greedy'. Why would someone want to play for less money in a less competitive environment? Why would someone want to do that AND deal with the complication that isn't guaranteed good quality, will suffer from community movement, etc. when everything works at esea RIGHT NOW? This is a completely logical opinion to have if you weigh playing tf2 over whatever esea's done.

When you're at the top currently, you have to fight to get a scrim partner by scheduling with another team long beforehand. In my stint on a mid invite team if one team couldn't play that day, and you were to last to look for a scrim, you don't get to play either. Cause everyone below is just plain too bad to practice/have fun against.

This is the current standard of playing the game. Now imagine a shift to a new league. People quit for various reasons: greed, no lan, whatever. This will happen, even if you hate these people. Considering the likelihood of quitting is naturally skewed with players on the topend, you can assume this will fragment invite even more.

As for esea itself. what exactly do any of you think this evil malware driver is doing? modern methods of getting cheats to bypass anticheats involve installing drivers to work at the kernel level of a computer. in order to deal with this... you make an anticheat that installs a driver to work at the kernel level. if you think they were doing bitcoin mining at the driver level you're wrong and retarded. not uninstalling is admittedly pretty dumb, but it presents the opportunity to grab data on someone uninstalling cheats to mess with stuff when they think esea is gone.

The bitcoin thing is actually real interesting because it's so overblown. one can ignore that lpkane never OK'd the code in the first place since no one wants to believe that. I want to ask: why do you care? What did it do that makes you care so much?

Assume that you left esea client on all day (you don't), that you left your computer idle all day (you never do nerd), and that your computer doesn't go into sleep cause that's gonna turn it off (possible, but not very smart).

if your power costs 16 cents / kwh(this is above US avg), and the 50% of cpu usage is approx 50watts:

http://i.stack.imgur.com/4HQPY.png

if you do all that for 24 hours for a month, you have costed yourself $6 in power. youre probably saving something like four times the watts by just sleeping in the first place, so it seems kind of retarded to care about the money considering youre already shitting it out anyways. 99% of you used the client twice a week, played your matches, closed the client. Netting no power increase at all.

The bottom line is that esea works. people pay, people play, and its the best tf2 will get unless valve steps in. If you don't care about that for moral reasons, that's fine. Realize that the competitive scene will take a hit for it and do it anyways. Realize that the best case is that you will end up with an inferior league, and that the worst case is the scene getting fucked up real real bad. This isn't an attempt to be passive aggressive, the free market will actually decide how things go down. You shouldn't be surprised that other people don't care and would rather just play regardless of esea being shit though.

http://i.imgur.com/P6iKvjM.jpg

Sorry, but you lost me there. It's a well thought-out post, but you're missing the point here. ESEA doesn't work, and not just that: their business practices are nothing but malicious and full of negligence towards this community that pays them thousands and thousands of dollars each season.

kalkin has gotten the client updated within 20 minutes of a tf2 update launching in the past couple months as far as I've noticed, so I don't know you mean by it not working. jag got dropped during a tf2 offseason(things woulda been real real shitty had there been a season going on then), their dev got picked up the exact day of the server issues and I think things have been smooth since then right?

13. On or about April 3, 2013, ESEA, through its employees, further created code to
monitor the programs that ESEA end-users ran on their computers, even when those end-users were not using ESEA services and the ESEA Software was not turned on ("ESEA Monitoring Code").

the tools to do such a thing do not exist and is essentially impossible to do. you're citing from a settlement that they didn't attempt to refute because they didn't want to risk paying more money if they lost.

How about "Watch This" dieing, or the absolutely barbaric "No exceptions!" policies that ESEA have started to offer? I don't give a flying fuck if their Malware client is "working" or "updated". I can count the number of seasons that HAVEN'T been pushed back by a week because of a client issue on one fucking hand. That's unacceptable. If we're paying all that money so they can push out an update that VALVE GIVES THEM ACCESS TO then you're severely overpricing their product.

maybe you should look into replacing killing?

they don't get updates early anymore btw kalkin is just a nolifer

That changes absolutely NOTHING. ESEA has treated the tf2 community like second class citizens while siphoning off the last of our money until they no longer support us or we no longer support them. They don't provide anything that other leagues do (like CEVO) besides a LAN, which can be organized through community support, and yet we have to put up with their bullshit season after season because they have a monopoly. The community has no say of the goings on at ESEA. Things will be different with CEVO. But, there's 10000 other threads about this.

If you really need proof in the pudding: Ask yourself when's the last time the ESEA client caught a tf2 cheater.

What? Do I need to explain what malware is?

Program that looks like doing one thing but does malicious things in background or injects itself into OS so it runs independently from software that was originally attached to. Yeah, essentially impossible to do. Never heard of those before.