I know that you think that a cord will drag your mouse around and decrease your accuracy, but you'll find that the cord is barely heavy enough to feel and definitely not heavy enough to impede mouse movement. Plus the lower latency is pretty essential if you ever plan on playing a hitscan class.

For your price range, i'd recommend a Logitech G400s, a very good mouse with very few issues and a decent RMA policy if any arise. It also has a near-perfect optical sensor and is one of the cheaper mice to do so.

As a side note, DPI doesn't mean shit other than simply raw sensitivity. It doesn't control really anything other than onscreen sensitivity. Good mice don't necessarily have higher or lower DPI, it's really just sensitivity and nothing more.

zowie evo ec1 might suit you
not wireless though cause wireless stinks :]

http://i.imgur.com/LFrp5aH.jpg

@BuschmasterACR, I just said low latency wireless was a plus. It's certainly not necessary, and both of the mice I said I was looking at are wired. I also mentioned something about DPI; "separate from its 12000DPI which is absolutely absurd".

DPI is important to a certain degree. With things like 1600DPI, at certain resolutions, you actually do get pixel skipping, which is blatantly unacceptable. I play scout as my preferred class, I'm just playing medic for my teams because that's what they need. I've been doing fine on my current mouse, it's just starting to fail.

Finally, I think you missed some of my biggest requirements; palm grip, comfort, and a programmable thumb button. Seriously, the last one is actually incredibly important. Having a button I can completely rebind to F22 and hold down without changing my grip whatsoever is so great, because it won't interfere with any other programs like tab, tilde, and keys like Q or V do. I talk on TeamSpeak more often outside of the game than inside, so it's absolutely essential to have this kind of thing.

@JackyLegs, first of all, please please PLEASE hotlink to images like that instead of embedding them. Your post alone takes more than half the page because it's a vertical image. Second, I actually helped make that damn guide - it isn't even from /v/, it's actually from /g/, and /v/ just rebranded it. Third, it's incredibly outdated and a lot of big, well-reviewed mice have come out in the past year that have flawless sensors. Fourth, literally everything above "good" is ambidextrous, which I hate, short of the G400 which I never liked; I've owned one in the past and ended up just giving it to a friend.

Well then why ask for our help if you know so much about mice

I'm totally open to new suggestions to see if there are any mice I missed, and I also value all of your opinions as TF2 players; it just irks me when I have a specific requirement people skip over. It's like telling someone to go with an AMD GPU because they're performing better in the price/performance sector when they're looking for a card for a CUDA course in college.

protip: when making analogies, don't assume that everyone understands the differences in parallel programming libraries

Then I'll make another analogy; this is like telling someone to get a specific Craftsman wrench because they really like the grip and it's well reviewed, when you're trying to remove a Torx screw.

...That probably wasn't much better, was it?

i have a g502 and its really good. the cable is pretty light although the mouse itself is kinda heavy for my taste but its not a biggie. ty for reading enjoy ur day

I've got a Zowie FK and I guarantee you'll get your money's worth

deathadder4lyfe

i dont see the abyssus in #4's post... same sensor as deathadder, some just have issues with jitter.

Haven´t tried it but it looks the mouse to get if your hand feels comfortable with it. A sensor better than g400 and the bells and whistles from g500 in a package sounds pretty sweet to me.

Are you able to bind the 'sniper key' to whatever button you want? How is the placement of it in regards to the tip of your thumb? When moving the mouse sideways, do you find yourself accidentally hitting it? I´m currently owning the old version of g500 and I´m looking to upgrade. This one seems to be the only other decent mouse with three side buttons.

lold

Apparently you're able to bind every key to whatever you want. They say there are 11 programmable keys stored in memory on the mouse itself. On the physical mouse, there are the forward/back (G7/G8), the sniper thumb, G5 and G4 above the sniper thumb, and a G9 below the scroll wheel release. Since that's only six, I assume the other 5 are LMB/RMB, scrollwheel left and right, and scrollwheel click (MMB).

Linus did a fantastic review of it over here that first set my eyes on this mouse.

i got the steelseries rival (that new ss mouse that apparently has a decent sensor) and i really love it

edit: NEVERMIND it broke after less than a month, wouldn't recommend

Roccat has a thing called the titan wheel and its pretty good. Id go with the roccat kone.

Get a mouse that has buttons and moves across your desk and allows you to do the things. Sheep is "best scout in the world" and uses a G9x "Shit tier". I use a Steelseries Sensei RAW (also "shit tier")

go figure

While you're at it, get some Cashews of Chaos.

You should definitely use a wired mouse for medic. A wired mouse could mean the difference between popping and dropping an uber.

Even if you rebind attack1/attack2, a wired mouse would be best even for movement. Just because a medic won't be shooting a bunch of things doesn't mean that the medic won't need to move the mouse as quickly as possible to dodge other players.

But what do I know about mice you know everything apparently

http://gyazo.com/3e76a073af22a267255c878b5e2111f7

http://mionix.net/products/naos-8200/

The Deathadder has the most comfortable design that I've ever used.

Show that image to anyone on ESR/OCN and they'll laugh at you.

I understand what you're saying regarding delays, and I'm not saying wireless mice don't have them. That's just something inherent; a wired mouse, in all logical situations, will have less latency than a wireless one. However, there are quite a few mice out there - not all, or even most for that matter - that actually have incredibly low latencies and still have the upsides of wireless. For example, my PMMX has a polling rate of 125MHz. This isn't too bad compared to most wireless mice, but it's still an 8ms input delay, versus the 1000MHz/1ms of most wired gaming mice. However, there are wireless mice like the G700 that have that same 1000MHz/1ms delay over wireless. Of course, the battery lasts nowhere near as long as the PMMX, but it has much better response times.

Either way, I'm leaning towards the G502, so this is irrelevant.

Apparently, the mouse is 121g, and the mouse + cable is 168g (for the entire cable/usb header). For comparison, my PMMX is 147g (w/ AA battery). It honestly sounds great. How comfortable is it? Is the metallic scroll wheel bothersome/does your finger ever slip?

I bought a SteelSeries Sensei off a shop sale a year ago. Not a single crash or problem with it, tracking is spot on, never jittered, lagged, no input delay or anything. Works like a mouse should work.

I used the Microsoft's IM for 11 years (same mouse) and it started breaking down, so I picked up the Sensei, since the ergonomics are pretty much the same.

If after 2 months of not even touching CS:GO i topscore at Eagle II in the first 3 games, then I don't know.

If I was to change the mouse anytime soon, I'd pick one of the Zowie mice though.

PROTIP: Doesn't matter what mouse you use, if you know how to use it properly. As long as it works properly, just pick the ergonomics accordingly to your grip.

inb4 getting crucified for liking Sensei

nah its fine, the only bad thing about the scroll wheel is that the scrollwheel left and right requires different pressure to be able to click it on both sides

Yea, describing it as a shit tier mouse is pretty dumb. I've had mine for 2 years and I've never had a single issue with it.