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Twitch offically aquired by Amazon
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#31
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Amazon is actually a bearable service
i aint mad

Amazon is actually a bearable service
i aint mad
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#32
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the whole muted vod shit didn't make a shitstorm as big as it was thought to
as long as currently live streams are left untouched(ie no live contentID bullshit) the majority of the viewerbase will most likely remain intact.
I dont like vods getting fucked over but still i dont amazon can fuck it up

the whole muted vod shit didn't make a shitstorm as big as it was thought to
as long as currently live streams are left untouched(ie no live contentID bullshit) the majority of the viewerbase will most likely remain intact.
I dont like vods getting fucked over but still i dont amazon can fuck it up
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#33
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its been 5 months and i still havent got my 5lb bag of gummy bears from amazon

its been 5 months and i still havent got my 5lb bag of gummy bears from amazon
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#34
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TwilitlordAmazonJohn

I really wish I could draw

[quote=Twilitlord]AmazonJohn[/quote]

I really wish I could draw
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#35
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most importantly our independence. But with Amazon’s support we’ll have the resources to bring you an even better Twitch.

So hopefully amazon leave twitch the fuck alone and just gives them the funds and resources they need. It goes without saying too that Amazon has a great infrastructure and amazing connections. Hopefully they'll let twitch use this and not interfere with its progress.

[quote]most importantly our independence. But with Amazon’s support we’ll have the resources to bring you an even better Twitch.[/quote]

So hopefully amazon leave twitch the fuck alone and just gives them the funds and resources they need. It goes without saying too that Amazon has a great infrastructure and amazing connections. Hopefully they'll let twitch use this and not interfere with its progress.
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#36
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finally I can R E L A X

finally I can R E L A X
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I am just happy that Google doesn't get a stronger stranglehold on internet video content. I am also surprised that I didn't think this could happen. Amazon is expanding and trying to compete in so many markets (app/game making, top boxs, smartphones, video/audio content, servers, cloud drives, ebooks, audiobooks, digital game distribution, fucking groceries) that expanding into live video content makes perfect sense. And if there is one company that can really start to rival Google in video content, it's Amazon.

I am just happy that Google doesn't get a stronger stranglehold on internet video content. I am also surprised that I didn't think this could happen. Amazon is expanding and trying to compete in so many markets (app/game making, top boxs, smartphones, video/audio content, servers, cloud drives, ebooks, audiobooks, digital game distribution, fucking groceries) that expanding into live video content makes perfect sense. And if there is one company that can really start to rival Google in video content, it's Amazon.
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#38
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does this mean that there is no longer a nazi stranglehold on music while streaming? or are we doomed

does this mean that there is no longer a nazi stranglehold on music while streaming? or are we doomed
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#39
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Feel like we're doomed either way.

It's not like twitch was not making enough money already

Fuck dat buy

Feel like we're doomed either way.

It's not like twitch was not making enough money already

Fuck dat buy
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http://www.twitch.tv/twitch

Twitch Town Hall w/ Emmett Shear, Twitch CEO, and Michael Frazzini, Amazon VP of Games

http://www.twitch.tv/twitch

Twitch Town Hall w/ Emmett Shear, Twitch CEO, and Michael Frazzini, Amazon VP of Games
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#41
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This is a very interesting acquisition. I think they've way overvalued twitch, but I also remember thinking that about Youtube back in 2006 when it was bought by Google for 1 bn, which has since become a 5.3 bn a year ad revenue source.

I'm not sure if Amazon is vying for more ad revenue sources or for better content for their Amazon prime video service, or perhaps they see something in interactive chat combined with live video. It's going to be interesting to watch. Amazon just seems like a way more interesting company to work with right now than behemoth Google.

That said, there will be censorship and content blocking and copyright issues to deal with. Twitch is about to step into the shadow of the big boys of content and will have to play by the rules like everyone else. Everyone's going to want some sort of a cut or compensation. Then again, it's the next step to making interactive gaming (or gaming in general) more mainstream.

This is a very interesting acquisition. I think they've way overvalued twitch, but I also remember thinking that about Youtube back in 2006 when it was bought by Google for 1 bn, which has since become a 5.3 bn a year ad revenue source.

I'm not sure if Amazon is vying for more ad revenue sources or for better content for their Amazon prime video service, or perhaps they see something in interactive chat combined with live video. It's going to be interesting to watch. Amazon just seems like a way more interesting company to work with right now than behemoth Google.

That said, there will be censorship and content blocking and copyright issues to deal with. Twitch is about to step into the shadow of the big boys of content and will have to play by the rules like everyone else. Everyone's going to want some sort of a cut or compensation. Then again, it's the next step to making interactive gaming (or gaming in general) more mainstream.
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x3Feel like we're doomed either way.

It's not like twitch was not making enough money already

Fuck dat buy

Twitch's financials are strangely hard/impossible to find, but I doubt they were rolling in it. If they had immensely deep pockets, I doubt they'd be bought out - they'd just use their own money to solve their scaling/capacity/whatever problems.

[quote=x3]Feel like we're doomed either way.

It's not like twitch was not making enough money already

Fuck dat buy[/quote]

Twitch's financials are strangely hard/impossible to find, but I doubt they were rolling in it. If they had immensely deep pockets, I doubt they'd be bought out - they'd just use their own money to solve their scaling/capacity/whatever problems.
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#43
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I agree with Getawhale. Twitch has ridiculous bandwidth use, and with adblock being so common their main revenue is subscribers, and there's not much incentive for the average user to subscribe to a channel. Things are probably not going super well for them.

I agree with Getawhale. Twitch has ridiculous bandwidth use, and with adblock being so common their main revenue is subscribers, and there's not much incentive for the average user to subscribe to a channel. Things are probably not going super well for them.
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smoboI agree with Getawhale. Twitch has ridiculous bandwidth use, and with adblock being so common their main revenue is subscribers, and there's not much incentive for the average user to subscribe to a channel. Things are probably not going super well for them.

I wouldn't necessarily say they're doing poorly, although it's possible they are struggling to be profitable. Considering that MLG (which I understand is a TOTALLY different company, but still) was still not profitable after 12 years of existence, according to a recent article, it seems unlikely that Twitch had tons of cash sitting in the bank.

[quote=smobo]I agree with Getawhale. Twitch has ridiculous bandwidth use, and with adblock being so common their main revenue is subscribers, and there's not much incentive for the average user to subscribe to a channel. Things are probably not going super well for them.[/quote]

I wouldn't necessarily say they're doing poorly, although it's possible they are struggling to be profitable. Considering that MLG (which I understand is a TOTALLY different company, but still) was still not profitable after 12 years of existence, [url=http://www.dailydot.com/esports/major-league-gaming-mlg-profitable/]according to a recent article[/url], it seems unlikely that Twitch had tons of cash sitting in the bank.
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#45
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But can I get a drone to pick me up and fly me to lan? Better yet, can I use a drone to send cbear a papa johns pizza while he streams?

But can I get a drone to pick me up and fly me to lan? Better yet, can I use a drone to send cbear a papa johns pizza while he streams?
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#46
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KanecoPossimpibleI imagine amazon putting up buy links for music instead of muting everything. That would be wonderful.
A logical solution that also doesn't hurt their consumers? I only believe it when I see it

Why not do it the way Youtube is handling this? If copyrighted music is detected, that segment isn't eligible for ad revenue.

And why shouldn't they back off from the VOD deleting? I mean, they now have unlimited storage in Amazon's cloud, which is incidentally used by the freaking CIA.

[quote=Kaneco][quote=Possimpible]I imagine amazon putting up buy links for music instead of muting everything. That would be wonderful.[/quote]

A logical solution that also doesn't hurt their consumers? I only believe it when I see it[/quote]


Why not do it the way Youtube is handling this? If copyrighted music is detected, that segment isn't eligible for ad revenue.

And why shouldn't they back off from the VOD deleting? I mean, they now have unlimited storage in Amazon's cloud, which is incidentally used by the freaking CIA.
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HKOne concern is that amazon has a bad rep as an employer. Friends at companies who've been acquired by amazon complain about the new management, and some have left their otherwise very good development jobs.

I've heard that warehouse employees are treated horrendously, but to be fair most warehouse employees are treated horrendously everywhere. It's not a great comparison, but the folks at the Washington Post I know seem to have had positive (or not negative) experiences after Bezos acquired it so I remain hopeful as far as workplace conditions go.

[quote=HK]One concern is that amazon has a bad rep as an employer. Friends at companies who've been acquired by amazon complain about the new management, and some have left their otherwise very good development jobs.[/quote]

I've heard that warehouse employees are treated horrendously, but to be fair most warehouse employees are treated horrendously everywhere. It's not a great comparison, but the folks at the Washington Post I know seem to have had positive (or not negative) experiences after Bezos acquired it so I remain hopeful as far as workplace conditions go.
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#48
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La_maisonKanecoPossimpibleI imagine amazon putting up buy links for music instead of muting everything. That would be wonderful.
A logical solution that also doesn't hurt their consumers? I only believe it when I see it

Why not do it the way Youtube is handling this? If copyrighted music is detected, that segment isn't eligible for ad revenue.

And why shouldn't they back off from the VOD deleting? I mean, they now have unlimited storage in Amazon's cloud, which is incidentally used by the freaking CIA.

I'm sure that if it were at all possible, Twitch would've just followed suit in the steps up YouTube and done something like this. However, VODs generate no ad revenue, so it's not as easy as just saying, "Oh, we'll make this particular VOD not eligible to generate ad revenue to the producer."

I think a nice middle ground would to do what Possimpible said and just have the content ID system redirect users to a place where they can purchase the particular song, rather than just use it to mute sections of video entirely. Right now this isn't possible due to their 30-minute segments thing, but it's already been stated that as time goes on they intend to just mute/block sections of video that contain copyrighted content.

As far as I know, the only ways that a partnered streamer can get revenue via streaming is by running live ads, getting subscribers, and direct donations from viewers.

[quote=La_maison][quote=Kaneco][quote=Possimpible]I imagine amazon putting up buy links for music instead of muting everything. That would be wonderful.[/quote]

A logical solution that also doesn't hurt their consumers? I only believe it when I see it[/quote]


Why not do it the way Youtube is handling this? If copyrighted music is detected, that segment isn't eligible for ad revenue.

And why shouldn't they back off from the VOD deleting? I mean, they now have unlimited storage in Amazon's cloud, which is incidentally used by the freaking CIA.[/quote]

I'm sure that if it were at all possible, Twitch would've just followed suit in the steps up YouTube and done something like this. However, VODs generate no ad revenue, so it's not as easy as just saying, "Oh, we'll make this particular VOD not eligible to generate ad revenue to the producer."

I think a nice middle ground would to do what Possimpible said and just have the content ID system redirect users to a place where they can purchase the particular song, rather than just use it to mute sections of video entirely. Right now this isn't possible due to their 30-minute segments thing, but it's already been stated that as time goes on they intend to just mute/block sections of video that contain copyrighted content.

As far as I know, the only ways that a partnered streamer can get revenue via streaming is by running live ads, getting subscribers, and direct donations from viewers.
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#49
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thinking amazon culture is better than google culture ?????????

thinking amazon culture is better than google culture ?????????
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#50
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Amazon and Google are one of the most innovative companies out there. Amazon buying is probably really good for streamers because either Google creates their own streaming spin off from Youtube, or do nothing and let Amazon rake in all the ad revenue. I doubt Google would let that happen, so it seems like streamers might be earning more cash money. Gotta love capitalism.

Amazon and Google are one of the most innovative companies out there. Amazon buying is probably really good for streamers because either Google creates their own streaming spin off from Youtube, or do nothing and let Amazon rake in all the ad revenue. I doubt Google would let that happen, so it seems like streamers might be earning more cash money. Gotta love capitalism.
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