Am I the only one praying every day that this game will finally die so I stop getting sucked back into the vortex every time I think I'm free

lol you think ur alone

the more you play, the better you get, as long as you play constantly, that is, those who don't get good playing like that, are just bad videogamers, and they should consider to stop playing games competitively

Unless, you know... they're having fun.

if they hadnt nerfed demo muma would eventually make a top team because he is the only person ive ever met that actually plays tf2 24/7

says the guy with 16k hours

All the people still in high school on TFTV wonder why the top teams with people in their 20's never scrim its actually kinda funny

I do not deny that I am a nerd but psa:

http://i.imgur.com/b3BZY3N.png

all that actually matters

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is it really hard to do? unless ur working >60 hours a week i dont see how u'd have trouble gaming for ~2 hours 4 times a week

you reset your stats theres no way

ye I plusfrag all of my posts right after I make em, including this one

It's pretty hard to do without sacrificing something that is key. AFAIK most sane people past the age of 18 that attend college (university in the U.S.) tend to have a relatively rigorous course load along with a not-completely-dead social life, some sort of other hobby/interest, and a respectable interest in staying healthy via exercise. Even while sacrificing or, for better words 'neglecting', some part of that 'average', it is pretty absurd to expect players whom quite a few of which have been playing this game for ten or more seasons to "not have trouble gaming" as if it's some sort of requirement.

nope, never have never will

for about a ~2-3 year stretch of time I never closed tf2 and left it open on my pc overnight

Back when I had the time and resources and hosted cups through comp.tf that was the most high stress environment ever and still was one of the most rewarding experiences I had through the game. Yes, it was fuckin hard having 30 guys steam message you at the same time with retarded questions because they lack basic reading comprehension to read 10 lines of rules or because they were too lazy to do so. Yes it was hard being put on the spot with problems or issues you would never even imagine that would come up and having to come up with improvised solutions on extremely short notice. But then seeing it all come together in the end, specially all the people tuning in to streams was all worth it in the end.

As for these kind of threads, I wish there was a sage button on these forums, it's what they deserve.

It's not about the time really, it's about consistency. There are days I'm not going to be on because I want to do other stuff. There are days I'm not gonna be on because I had to work later or are going to be busy with other stuff. There are days that I won't be on because I just don't feel like playing Team Fortress 2.

All that goes into the decision of playing TF2, or any game for that matter, competitively. I've played with people on my team that have recognized that they fit into the above description, yet still decide to play. They end up missing scrims or pay half attention the entire night, while the rest of the team is working their ass off. You end up having to get ringers for half the days of the week, or worse, have to make a team decision to find another, more dedicated player.

If you don't have time to play, then at least find other people that also don't have time to play, or people that are fine with you missing scrims once or twice a week. A lot of people do that, but the player base is objectively getting smaller, so naturally, its harder to do. I personally want to commit myself if I'm playing, all or nothing, so for me, its not a question; I won't play unless I can make five scrims a night regularly, and I and plenty of others can't see themselves doing that anymore.

Have to be up early to do stuff that's actually physically demanding. Not just sleeping in class / bumming around a high school. East coast invite scrim times do not lend themselves to this.

Also what rigel said is spot on.

I guess it's easy to do if all you do is work. But if you think that being an adult means going to work from 9-5 and then you don't have to do anything with the rest of your day you are in for a surprise. From 5-midnight or whenever you go to sleep you have to take care of any housework or shopping or whatever needs to get done, and that means missing scrims and missing games. Also, if you have any kind of social life or hobbies, they will usually take place at nights after work. And if you are in a relationship, it's selfish to take three hours out of the little time you have together to play video games. You can't just be like "sorry babe can't acknowledge you tonight have to play video games l0l"

In high school and even college it's relatively easy to know when you can't make scrims or games. Everything is very planned out and you know when you have classes and what work needs to get done. However, a lot of people who play this game competitively are in high school, and they actually do not understand the idea that things come up last minute that have to be dealt with. I'm not trying to trash on younger people playing this game, I'm just saying it's funny whenever someone who is like 16 years old can't understand why mixup never scrimmed or anything during the normal season.

When you are in high school, or at least when I was in high school, all clubs and stuff like that got out before dinner time usually, and you hung out with your friends on the weekend. I don't remember having almost any obligations during the time slot of 8:30-11:00 during normal scrim times.

I'm not pretending to be on some sort of high horse or anything looking down on all the young plebs, but generally the average age of invite is higher than the age of people in IM/below, which I think is part of the reason why some of hte teams just can't scrim as much. When you have six adults on a team, good luck being able to get them all at their computer four times a week. It's the reason I quit TF2. I can't commit to a team and honestly tell them that I will make most of the scrims, cuz I won't

Fuck, I think I just made a serious post.

I'm 27 and have a 7 year old son, and occasionally work (I'm on the dole, usually, thanks to being maimed by a factory) and I have absolutely no problem finding time to fuck around.

I still played comp a bit when I worked regularly, but I often worked 3rd shift so that knocked me out, because I couldn't be home after 10:30 PM. But, when I was on days (7-3) I played and it was ezpz.

When I was in college though, I didn't play at all - because as soon as the kiddo went to bed, I was socializing until 1-2 am lol. I'd have a lot more of my brain cells, and probably would've gotten better grades, had I had tf2 then though :(

As far as tournaments: I didn't even know Kevin was running anything until I saw this thread, and looked lol The stickies are kind of innocuous - gotta have a fancy poster or something so people can leaf it around and generate so-called "hype"

scrimming everyday is pretty easy when you get home at 4-5 and dont have to do anything

Try getting home at 6-6:30 after work when you have things to do like walk the dog, cook dinner, clean up, etc
Lucky to have 15mins to relax before you have to get ready for scrims

I'm 38 with a 5 year old, a job and a 2-hour commute. . .
Doing this is really hard sometimes. It's a decision I made, as terrible as I am at the game - it's my reward for putting up with the rest of the bullshit work/life puts me through.
I can say that because I still have a ton to learn and it's fun for me.
Anything short of that and I'd be over it in a heartbeat. I can't blame anyone with some combination of work/family/job for not putting TF2 at the top of their list.

I wish we could have signed up for the Dead map event, but the team was/isn't settled. It's awesome it's happening and if you need help doing more things like it, whatever it is, hit me up.

Third shift killed my ability to play this game competitively. When you have to be out of the house by 945 est to get to work there aren't many options for video games.

Did huck just say something serious wtf

But as a person in high school, tf2 is still really difficult to get to. I get home around 4-5 and do hw and study till about 8 or 9 with finals coming up its a lot of stress. and the fact that my school starts so early im fucking myself over by going to sleep late.
Videogames in general are hard to dedicate yourself to. Its just like any other hobby and shoukd be done in your free time. And if you cant make that free time for the game. Dont bait your team and not commit. Until then when you get some time play some PUGs do some things until you have that time for a big dedication and one thing thats best for your team is dedication

i just wish i was west coast damn

that's doable, but you can't win invite doing that.

Plat how did you put up with harbleu for so many Lans.

probably by having a chance at winning them

now THATS a meatshot

if you're still in school you'll have more free time to DM, scrim, watch demos/streams, and practice. i used to wonder why you don't see more people over the age of 25 playing this game, but i've come to realize that it can be difficult to find the time. every so often you'll see the "old guard" move on from TF2 and a new group of people will come in to carry the torch.

this is also the case for tournament organizers, web developers, broadcasters, and shoutcasters. even the heads of the newbie mixes have turned over a couple of times. very few people have been around since the beginning (especially now that enigma has retired).

yes, these guys deserve all of the recognition that they can get, but don't forget that it's also just super fun to do these kinds of things. ask anyone and you'll find that the experience that you gain is invaluable, and because it's oftentimes a volunteer job, you usually don't need any experience to get started.

i personally wouldn't trade my time in TF2 for anything.

I agree. This game has taught me so much because it was the first thing I really tried at. It was the first thing I actually cared about doing well in, enough that I actually wanted to practice. It taught me how to get good at things, and how to shrug off that yucky feeling you get when you lose or fail. It taught me about the potential that I didn't even know I had inside me. I'll take what I have learned playing this game with me through my whole life. Any time I fail at something or have to rise to a challenge, I now know how to never give up until I succeed.