S E R S T R O N G
stephentf2Show Contentfuck that fire priestess Melisandre she killed shireen :((((
[spoiler]You'll be thanking her next season.[/spoiler]
can't trust your eyes on this show. remember ya boy beric dondarrion. https://youtu.be/uwyvjgs40Oo?t=2m50s
fuck I knew it was coming and still
[spoiler]pls resurrect him[/spoiler]
fucking shit. the little girl now this.
edit: Queen got that body doe
edit: Queen got that body doe
Schweppesfuck I knew it was coming and stillShow Contentpls resurrect him
[spoiler]pls resurrect him[/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler] If Melisandre doesn't ressurect him, I'm so done with this shit. [s]I swear[/s] Who am I kidding, I'll still watch. :( [/spoiler]
drosoSchweppesfuck I knew it was coming and stillShow Contentpls resurrect himShow ContentIf Melisandre doesn't ressurect him, I'm so done with this shit.I swearWho am I kidding, I'll still watch. :(
let's just hope it's not only wishful thinking
either way after tonight's episode the white walkers can kill everyone for all I care
[spoiler]pls resurrect him[/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler] If Melisandre doesn't ressurect him, I'm so done with this shit. [s]I swear[/s] Who am I kidding, I'll still watch. :( [/spoiler][/quote]
[spoiler]it's the only plausible reason why she would abandon stannis and head for jon the day they go stabby stabby
let's just hope it's not only wishful thinking[/spoiler]
either way after tonight's episode the white walkers can kill everyone for all I care
[spoiler]except for you tyrion you're cool[/spoiler]
Finale thoughts: Hollow and clumsy.
They've gotten to the point where they have to fill in the blanks instead of erasing away the edges, and it isn't working. Some entertaining moments, lots of intended fan service
but mostly hashed events that stutter along and are lucky to connect together at the end with any sense of payoff.
They've lost the magnitude of the events that happen in Martins world.
I do not envy the showrunners at all, and kind of feel a bit bad for them. They submarined the Greyjoys, Gendry, Thoros, and Bran (and those are only chracters they;ve left out that they have featured on the show) and yet they still don't have enough time to tell anything but a visually spark-noted version of the source material. Realizing this, it seems they've gotten bolder and tried to carve their own path out of Martin's narrative (and now that the great well of material has dried up this is all they can do) but the path they carve is a long lazy bend from point A to point B.
Martin's was a labyrinth of clashing motives, ancient prophecy, the rise of magic, and complex and dynamic characters (something I can all but guess D&D regard as only mythical at this point). While I get you need to "clean up" and simplify the maze to translate it to the screen, it's the dark corners and wrong turns which make the payoffs so rewarding. The adventure is the journey as they say.
Sadly, knowing only the destination, D&D have gotten lost.
They've gotten to the point where they have to fill in the blanks instead of erasing away the edges, and it isn't working. Some entertaining moments, lots of intended fan service [spoiler](Tyrion to rule, Varys appears, Jamie + Bron tag-team Dorne, Brienne revenge, Theon kills hated dog girl)[/spoiler] but mostly hashed events that stutter along and are lucky to connect together at the end with any sense of payoff.
They've lost the magnitude of the events that happen in Martins world. [spoiler]When Jon Snow's murder is underwhelming...you've done something wrong. That scene needed to breathe, needed to be a slow trickle of realization that ends in a firecracker moment before fizzling away, leaving only the audience's shock to echo the impact. It was more like a post script. The big hammer fall was Olly, and instead of going "bang" it hit the screen with a thud. That very conspicuous thread being sewn all season got it's final stitch to the surprise of...who? I can only guess he was written to add weight to the scene but the horse doesn't weigh much when you've been beating it into the ground all season long.[/spoiler]
I do not envy the showrunners at all, and kind of feel a bit bad for them. They submarined the Greyjoys, Gendry, Thoros, and Bran (and those are only chracters they;ve left out that they [b]have[/b] featured on the show) and yet they still don't have enough time to tell anything but a visually spark-noted version of the source material. Realizing this, it seems they've gotten bolder and tried to carve their own path out of Martin's narrative (and now that the great well of material has dried up this is all they can do) but the path they carve is a long lazy bend from point A to point B.
Martin's was a labyrinth of clashing motives, ancient prophecy, the rise of magic, and complex and dynamic characters (something I can all but guess D&D regard as only mythical at this point). While I get you need to "clean up" and simplify the maze to translate it to the screen, it's the dark corners and wrong turns which make the payoffs so rewarding. The adventure is the journey as they say.
Sadly, knowing only the destination, D&D have gotten lost.
Also RIP Stannis!
Also RIP Stannis![/spoiler]
chill guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wboON-Z-eqI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wboON-Z-eqI
All of the complexity is gone. The show is no longer about characters doing things, but about things happening to the characters. Good guys kill bad guys, bad guys kill good guys. There's no depth to anyone left alive. They've even managed to turn brilliantly written characters like Jaime and Sam into husks of their book selves.
It's like they saw the audience reaction to Red Wedding and thought 'hurrr let's make this happen every week the audience loved it when we killed off main characters'
The problem with turning a book series like ASOIAF into television is that where books aren't character dependent (it's easy to continue writing even when characters leave the story), television is completely character driven. Nobody cares about an episode entirely about how beautiful Dorne is or about the conflict within the Nights Watch. Instead we get the evil lady killing the innocent princess and the bad guys and a little kid killing their leader even when it made literally no sense to do instead of just leaving him outside the wall.
Bad writing, and I fear it's only going to get worse as the show veers farther away from the books and into Lost territory.
It's like they saw the audience reaction to Red Wedding and thought 'hurrr let's make this happen every week the audience loved it when we killed off main characters'
The problem with turning a book series like ASOIAF into television is that where books aren't character dependent (it's easy to continue writing even when characters leave the story), television is completely character driven. Nobody cares about an episode entirely about how beautiful Dorne is or about the conflict within the Nights Watch. Instead we get the evil lady killing the innocent princess and the bad guys and a little kid killing their leader even when it made literally no sense to do instead of just leaving him outside the wall.
Bad writing, and I fear it's only going to get worse as the show veers farther away from the books and into Lost territory.
Pretty much all the interesting characters either get barely any airtime or die. I can safely assume when someone gets a lot of airtime/major thing happen in the season, they will die, which is lame tbh
As having read the books It was really obvious the drama-frication of the show where the plot deviated from the books and where parts of the plot were made up by the show's writers. IMO the quality of this season suffered as a result as the depth to the show simply wasn't there (not to mention the shitty swordplay in the beginning of the season - I guess all the budget went towards the CGI dragon, walkers and battles). I'm extremely doubtful Winds of Winter will be published before the next season and I'm expecting to be increasingly disappointed as there is decreasingly amount of content in Dance of Dragons to work off, I would hope that S6 will be delayed till after the book is published but that simply isn't going to happen. Hope I'm wrong nevertheless.
As having read the books It was really obvious the drama-frication of the show where the plot deviated from the books and where parts of the plot were made up by the show's writers. IMO the quality of this season suffered as a result as the depth to the show simply wasn't there (not to mention the shitty swordplay in the beginning of the season - I guess all the budget went towards the CGI dragon, walkers and battles). I'm extremely doubtful Winds of Winter will be published before the next season and I'm expecting to be increasingly disappointed as there is decreasingly amount of content in Dance of Dragons to work off, I would hope that S6 will be delayed till after the book is published but that simply isn't going to happen. Hope I'm wrong nevertheless.
[/spoiler]
Interesting strategy spending 2/3 of the episodes retreading the same shit over and over again and then when everything finally gets resolved there's absolutely no breathing room and it just feels like you're watching the show on fast forward. I hope that the showrunners remember how to properly pace stuff again.
I'd disagree on pacing, you can have effective character death scenes in film with it happening seemingly "randomly" Soviet war movies in particular use this tactic *very* effectively - it helps the audience realize that nobody is safe and that the situation itself is deadly, blah blah. As a rule their death scenes were always these quick shots that come at innocuous times - and there's never any ridiculous "goodbye I'm dying" sequence, some poor guy just gets blown into meat chunks or perforated and that's that. Sometimes they even do it off camera. The difference is you need the audience to *really* care about the character before you randomly off them - a lot of people really liked the latest victim, and they'd been in the show since forever, but things are so helter-skelter it's hard to keep that in perspective, or for it work as well as it could.
My problem with the show has always been how much it jumps around within one episode, not only could they pad things out more (which is kind of a useful tactic since you're working on an unfinished book series), but it'd make the story feel like it has more continuity, because right now it's really hard to feel "involved" in events that are constantly shifting all over the damn place, and if you happen to prefer one story line over another, you're going to have to spend 20+ minutes of your viewing time watching content you're not especially interested in - and you can tell the editors at least have a sense of who the more popular characters are, because a lot of the in between spots *feel* like "well, this will hold them over right - cuz' we need to end the episode with somebody people like right?"
Another issue I have with virtually every television show, especially those of this size, is that every episode and script are written by a different team of people and shot/directed by some team of people, so you don't have a lot of consistency in how characters are utilized (or even act). The very worst example was Skylar in Breaking Bad - her behavior was entirely dependent on which particular group wrote that episode lol. I don't like things that are different. If a character changes it should be for a *reason* other than "well so and so chose to utilize them this way" etc. So you end up with character portrayals that are seemingly random, and I'm left to determine that a goodly portion of the people portrayed in westeros are insane. At least this season didn't have laughable sexual content lol. Especially season two had some scenes in it that I still laugh about purely because of how ridiculous they were - at least they expunged that lol.
My problem with the show has always been how much it jumps around within one episode, not only could they pad things out more (which is kind of a useful tactic since you're working on an unfinished book series), but it'd make the story feel like it has more continuity, because right now it's really hard to feel "involved" in events that are constantly shifting all over the damn place, and if you happen to prefer one story line over another, you're going to have to spend 20+ minutes of your viewing time watching content you're not especially interested in - and you can tell the editors at least have a sense of who the more popular characters are, because a lot of the in between spots *feel* like "well, this will hold them over right - cuz' we need to end the episode with somebody people like right?"
Another issue I have with virtually every television show, especially those of this size, is that every episode and script are written by a different team of people and shot/directed by some team of people, so you don't have a lot of consistency in how characters are utilized (or even act). The very worst example was Skylar in Breaking Bad - her behavior was entirely dependent on which particular group wrote that episode lol. I don't like things that are different. If a character changes it should be for a *reason* other than "well so and so chose to utilize them this way" etc. So you end up with character portrayals that are seemingly random, and I'm left to determine that a goodly portion of the people portrayed in westeros are insane. At least this season didn't have laughable sexual content lol. Especially season two had some scenes in it that I still laugh about purely because of how ridiculous they were - at least they expunged that lol.
i dont understand why people take got seriously
its a soap opera with gratuitous sex and violence that somehow tricked itself (and its audience) into thinking its good
its a soap opera with gratuitous sex and violence that somehow tricked itself (and its audience) into thinking its good
twenty2020i dont understand why people take got seriously
its a soap opera with gratuitous sex and violence that somehow tricked itself (and its audience) into thinking its good
or maybe people just like watching the tv show? imagine that.
its a soap opera with gratuitous sex and violence that somehow tricked itself (and its audience) into thinking its good[/quote]
or maybe people just like watching the tv show? imagine that.
unftwenty2020i dont understand why people take got seriously
its a soap opera with gratuitous sex and violence that somehow tricked itself (and its audience) into thinking its good
or maybe people just like watching the tv show? imagine that.
your thought doesnt follow or relate to mine BTW
i dont know why you quoted me
its a soap opera with gratuitous sex and violence that somehow tricked itself (and its audience) into thinking its good[/quote]
or maybe people just like watching the tv show? imagine that.[/quote]
your thought doesnt follow or relate to mine BTW
i dont know why you quoted me
twenty2020i dont understand why people take got seriously
its a soap opera with gratuitous sex and violence that somehow tricked itself (and its audience) into thinking its good
its a soap opera with gratuitous sex and violence that somehow tricked itself (and its audience) into thinking its good[/quote]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c[/youtube]
Bonafidehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wALRfzF52kc&hd=1
don't stop believin
don't stop believin
twenty2020unfyour thought doesnt follow or relate to mine BTWtwenty2020i dont understand why people take got seriously
its a soap opera with gratuitous sex and violence that somehow tricked itself (and its audience) into thinking its good
or maybe people just like watching the tv show? imagine that.
i dont know why you quoted me
its a soap opera with gratuitous sex and violence that somehow tricked itself (and its audience) into thinking its good[/quote]
or maybe people just like watching the tv show? imagine that.[/quote]
your thought doesnt follow or relate to mine BTW
i dont know why you quoted me[/quote]
[img]http://i.sharefa.st/1300462823439635785290.gif[/img]