ROG Swift PG279Q
(Available around the end of the month)
27 inch. 1440p. IPS. 165hz.
G-sync.
109 ppi
8bit color
4ms reponse.
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[url=http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/asus-debuts-new-g-sync-high-resolution-high-refresh-rate-displays/]ROG Swift PG279Q[/url]
(Available around the end of the month)
27 inch. 1440p. IPS. 165hz.
G-sync.
109 ppi
8bit color
4ms reponse.[spoiler] Damn, So close [/spoiler]
(Available around the end of the month)
27 inch. 1440p. IPS. 165hz.
G-sync.
109 ppi
8bit color
4ms reponse.[spoiler] Damn, So close [/spoiler]
4ms
IPS
[quote]4ms
IPS[/quote]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FBFVY0CUYk&feature=youtu.be&t=3s]dear god[/url]
IPS[/quote]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FBFVY0CUYk&feature=youtu.be&t=3s]dear god[/url]
4 ms mother of God, that's a latency of more than half a frame on that monitor, how can they expect us to play with that? Huge blunder from ASUS, not sure how soon they'll recover from this
4 ms mother of God, that's a latency of more than [b]half a frame[/b] on that monitor, how can they expect us to play with that? Huge blunder from ASUS, not sure how soon they'll recover from this
Quik4 ms :(
just as an FYI for a IPS this is about as good as it gets.
If anyone really wants a monitor that can do XXX >144 Hz plus having 1ms or less gtg, good colors, and a decent resolution, you're basically going to have to drop $10,000+ or wait for OLED monitors.
[quote=Quik]4 ms :([/quote]
just as an FYI for a IPS this is about as good as it gets.
If anyone really wants a monitor that can do XXX >144 Hz plus having 1ms or less gtg, good colors, and a decent resolution, you're basically going to have to drop $10,000+ or wait for OLED monitors.
just as an FYI for a IPS this is about as good as it gets.
If anyone really wants a monitor that can do XXX >144 Hz plus having 1ms or less gtg, good colors, and a decent resolution, you're basically going to have to drop $10,000+ or wait for OLED monitors.
the301stspartan4 ms mother of God, that's a latency of more than half a frame on that monitor, how can they expect us to play with that? Huge blunder from ASUS, not sure how soon they'll recover from this
It's IPS. That simple.
[quote=the301stspartan]4 ms mother of God, that's a latency of more than [b]half a frame[/b] on that monitor, how can they expect us to play with that? Huge blunder from ASUS, not sure how soon they'll recover from this[/quote]
It's IPS. That simple.
It's IPS. That simple.
yttriumthe301stspartan4 ms mother of God, that's a latency of more than half a frame on that monitor, how can they expect us to play with that? Huge blunder from ASUS, not sure how soon they'll recover from thisIt's IPS. That simple.
It was also sarcasm, I'd highly doubt even the best CS:GO pros or Invite TF2 players would notice the difference between 1ms and 5ms
[quote=yttrium][quote=the301stspartan]4 ms mother of God, that's a latency of more than [b]half a frame[/b] on that monitor, how can they expect us to play with that? Huge blunder from ASUS, not sure how soon they'll recover from this[/quote]
It's IPS. That simple.[/quote]
It was also sarcasm, I'd highly doubt even the best CS:GO pros or Invite TF2 players would notice the difference between 1ms and 5ms
It's IPS. That simple.[/quote]
It was also sarcasm, I'd highly doubt even the best CS:GO pros or Invite TF2 players would notice the difference between 1ms and 5ms
ProSkeezyttriumthe301stspartan4 ms mother of God, that's a latency of more than half a frame on that monitor, how can they expect us to play with that? Huge blunder from ASUS, not sure how soon they'll recover from thisIt's IPS. That simple.
It was also sarcasm, I'd highly doubt even the best CS:GO pros or Invite TF2 players would notice the difference between 1ms and 5ms
Both of you stop.
[quote=ProSkeez][quote=yttrium][quote=the301stspartan]4 ms mother of God, that's a latency of more than [b]half a frame[/b] on that monitor, how can they expect us to play with that? Huge blunder from ASUS, not sure how soon they'll recover from this[/quote]
It's IPS. That simple.[/quote]
It was also sarcasm, I'd highly doubt even the best CS:GO pros or Invite TF2 players would notice the difference between 1ms and 5ms[/quote]
Both of you stop.
It's IPS. That simple.[/quote]
It was also sarcasm, I'd highly doubt even the best CS:GO pros or Invite TF2 players would notice the difference between 1ms and 5ms[/quote]
Both of you stop.
ProSkeezIt was also sarcasm, I'd highly doubt even the best CS:GO pros or Invite TF2 players would notice the difference between 1ms and 5ms
I have a 120hz 5ms mon and a 144hz 1ms mon. The difference is noticeable but not crippling.
[quote=ProSkeez]
It was also sarcasm, I'd highly doubt even the best CS:GO pros or Invite TF2 players would notice the difference between 1ms and 5ms[/quote]
I have a 120hz 5ms mon and a 144hz 1ms mon. The difference is noticeable but not crippling.
It was also sarcasm, I'd highly doubt even the best CS:GO pros or Invite TF2 players would notice the difference between 1ms and 5ms[/quote]
I have a 120hz 5ms mon and a 144hz 1ms mon. The difference is noticeable but not crippling.
I did a bit of googling and found this, which I guess is the previous model- PG278Q instead of PG279Q. Both are 1440p, the one OP posted is 165 hz and 4 ms but this one is 144 hz and 1 ms... so which is better?
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9B-24-236-405&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC-_-pla-_-LCD+%2f+LED+Monitors-_-9B-24-236-405&gclid=CIiGvv6T1MgCFYU9aQodazQGAA
I did a bit of googling and found this, which I guess is the previous model- PG278Q instead of PG279Q. Both are 1440p, the one OP posted is 165 hz and 4 ms but this one is 144 hz and 1 ms... so which is better?
I did a bit of googling and found this, which I guess is the previous model- PG278Q instead of PG279Q. Both are 1440p, the one OP posted is 165 hz and 4 ms but this one is 144 hz and 1 ms... so which is better?
Hycehttp://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9B-24-236-405
I did a bit of googling and found this, which I guess is the previous model- PG278Q instead of PG279Q. Both are 1440p, the one OP posted is 165 hz and 4 ms but this one is 144 hz and 1 ms... so which is better?
Depends on for what you're doing.
The one you linked (PG278Q) is better for competitive gaming (the 1ms gtg makes all the difference up and then some for the lower refresh)
The one in the OP (PG279Q) is better for your Skyrim/Fallout 4/GTA V/Metro Series/Bioshock kind of games. i.e. Ones that you're not going to be doing heavy competitive play in. (technically Most people myself included would prefer this one for non-competitive play in any game, it's also better for standard desktop use)
[quote=Hyce]http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9B-24-236-405
I did a bit of googling and found this, which I guess is the previous model- PG278Q instead of PG279Q. Both are 1440p, the one OP posted is 165 hz and 4 ms but this one is 144 hz and 1 ms... so which is better?[/quote]
Depends on for what you're doing.
The one you linked (PG278Q) is better for competitive gaming (the 1ms gtg makes all the difference up and then some for the lower refresh)
The one in the OP (PG279Q) is better for your Skyrim/Fallout 4/GTA V/Metro Series/Bioshock kind of games. i.e. Ones that you're not going to be doing heavy competitive play in. (technically Most people myself included would prefer this one for non-competitive play in any game, it's also better for standard desktop use)
I did a bit of googling and found this, which I guess is the previous model- PG278Q instead of PG279Q. Both are 1440p, the one OP posted is 165 hz and 4 ms but this one is 144 hz and 1 ms... so which is better?[/quote]
Depends on for what you're doing.
The one you linked (PG278Q) is better for competitive gaming (the 1ms gtg makes all the difference up and then some for the lower refresh)
The one in the OP (PG279Q) is better for your Skyrim/Fallout 4/GTA V/Metro Series/Bioshock kind of games. i.e. Ones that you're not going to be doing heavy competitive play in. (technically Most people myself included would prefer this one for non-competitive play in any game, it's also better for standard desktop use)
#11
PG278Q = TN panel = faster, but worse colours
PG279Q = IPS panel = better colours, but slower (gtg, not refresh rate) and more expensive
#11
PG278Q = TN panel = faster, but worse colours
PG279Q = IPS panel = better colours, but slower (gtg, not refresh rate) and more expensive
PG278Q = TN panel = faster, but worse colours
PG279Q = IPS panel = better colours, but slower (gtg, not refresh rate) and more expensive
FUCK DOES THIS MEAN I HAVE TO DISH OUT MORE MONEY? :(
FUCK DOES THIS MEAN I HAVE TO DISH OUT MORE MONEY? :(
Has anyone tried those 600hz plasma TV's? Why aren't more people gaming on those?
I heard that that's not necessarily the image refresh but rather a color refresh or something, but someone here could probably explain
Has anyone tried those 600hz plasma TV's? Why aren't more people gaming on those?
I heard that that's not necessarily the image refresh but rather a color refresh or something, but someone here could probably explain
I heard that that's not necessarily the image refresh but rather a color refresh or something, but someone here could probably explain
PhunkHas anyone tried those 600hz plasma TV's? Why aren't more people gaming on those?
I heard that that's not necessarily the image refresh but rather a color refresh or something, but someone here could probably explain
Are those the TVs that look like they're running off 60fps or is that a thing already? Because it looks so weird to me like it would give me motion sickness, especially if its a large flat screen around 45-60 inch TV.
[quote=Phunk]Has anyone tried those 600hz plasma TV's? Why aren't more people gaming on those?
I heard that that's not necessarily the image refresh but rather a color refresh or something, but someone here could probably explain[/quote]
Are those the TVs that look like they're running off 60fps or is that a thing already? Because it looks so weird to me like it would give me motion sickness, especially if its a large flat screen around 45-60 inch TV.
I heard that that's not necessarily the image refresh but rather a color refresh or something, but someone here could probably explain[/quote]
Are those the TVs that look like they're running off 60fps or is that a thing already? Because it looks so weird to me like it would give me motion sickness, especially if its a large flat screen around 45-60 inch TV.
PhunkHas anyone tried those 600hz plasma TV's? Why aren't more people gaming on those?
I heard that that's not necessarily the image refresh but rather a color refresh or something, but someone here could probably explain
the terminologies are inequivalent
http://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/what-is-the-refresh-rate?uxtv=2e6d
[quote=Phunk]Has anyone tried those 600hz plasma TV's? Why aren't more people gaming on those?
I heard that that's not necessarily the image refresh but rather a color refresh or something, but someone here could probably explain[/quote]
the terminologies are inequivalent
http://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/what-is-the-refresh-rate?uxtv=2e6d
I heard that that's not necessarily the image refresh but rather a color refresh or something, but someone here could probably explain[/quote]
the terminologies are inequivalent
http://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/what-is-the-refresh-rate?uxtv=2e6d
the human brain only sees in 147hz anyways so i don't see the point in buying a 4ms monitor
the human brain only sees in 147hz anyways so i don't see the point in buying a 4ms monitor
#15
100/200Hz LCD TVs use interpolation.
600Hz are simply run of the mill Plasma TVs*. If you're using that terminology there are 840Hz Plasma TVs.
Neither will accept more than a 60Hz input.
*Plasma works differently than LCD. LCD you got a continuous (or high frequency PWM) backlight. The crystals in front of it let a certain amount of light through. Rotating the crystals to a different position (->opacity) takes time. That's where ghosting/trails come from, the pixels need time to change. Plasma is completely different. You've got glowing plasma. It's either glowing or not. So to change the brightness they use a sort of PWM. The length of each strobe is variable, the number of strobes (correct term is subfield) is fixed. Guess what the standard is right now? 10. Add marketing and suddenly it's a "600Hz" TV. It used to be 8 subfields = "480Hz". Except for Pioneer, they've used 14 subfields (and didn't advertise it as "840Hz") for years.
#15
100/200Hz LCD TVs use interpolation.
600Hz are simply run of the mill Plasma TVs*. If you're using that terminology there are 840Hz Plasma TVs.
Neither will accept more than a 60Hz input.
*Plasma works differently than LCD. LCD you got a continuous (or high frequency PWM) backlight. The crystals in front of it let a certain amount of light through. Rotating the crystals to a different position (->opacity) takes time. That's where ghosting/trails come from, the pixels need time to change. Plasma is completely different. You've got glowing plasma. It's either glowing or not. So to change the brightness they use a sort of PWM. The length of each strobe is variable, the number of strobes (correct term is subfield) is fixed. Guess what the standard is right now? 10. Add marketing and suddenly it's a "600Hz" TV. It used to be 8 subfields = "480Hz". Except for Pioneer, they've used 14 subfields (and didn't advertise it as "840Hz") for years.
100/200Hz LCD TVs use interpolation.
600Hz are simply run of the mill Plasma TVs*. If you're using that terminology there are 840Hz Plasma TVs.
Neither will accept more than a 60Hz input.
*Plasma works differently than LCD. LCD you got a continuous (or high frequency PWM) backlight. The crystals in front of it let a certain amount of light through. Rotating the crystals to a different position (->opacity) takes time. That's where ghosting/trails come from, the pixels need time to change. Plasma is completely different. You've got glowing plasma. It's either glowing or not. So to change the brightness they use a sort of PWM. The length of each strobe is variable, the number of strobes (correct term is subfield) is fixed. Guess what the standard is right now? 10. Add marketing and suddenly it's a "600Hz" TV. It used to be 8 subfields = "480Hz". Except for Pioneer, they've used 14 subfields (and didn't advertise it as "840Hz") for years.
just fyi response time is not the same as input lag
just fyi response time is not the same as input lag
Been curious for a long time why manufacturers stuck to 144hz. Weird number to pick when they could probably go up if they wanted to. I'd like to see some try to get even higher. Idgaf about color or res.
1080p, TN, 1ms GTG, 240hz sounds better than 4ms 165hz even if we're getting into really tiny differences.
Been curious for a long time why manufacturers stuck to 144hz. Weird number to pick when they could probably go up if they wanted to. I'd like to see some try to get even higher. Idgaf about color or res.
1080p, TN, 1ms GTG, 240hz sounds better than 4ms 165hz even if we're getting into really tiny differences.
1080p, TN, 1ms GTG, 240hz sounds better than 4ms 165hz even if we're getting into really tiny differences.
KrocketKarmaBeen curious for a long time why manufacturers stuck to 144hz. Weird number to pick when they could probably go up if they wanted to. I'd like to see some try to get even higher. Idgaf about color or res.
1080p, TN, 1ms GTG, 240hz sounds better than 4ms 165hz even if we're getting into really tiny differences.
im just waiting for 420hz
[quote=KrocketKarma]Been curious for a long time why manufacturers stuck to 144hz. Weird number to pick when they could probably go up if they wanted to. I'd like to see some try to get even higher. Idgaf about color or res.
1080p, TN, 1ms GTG, 240hz sounds better than 4ms 165hz even if we're getting into really tiny differences.[/quote]
im just waiting for 420hz
1080p, TN, 1ms GTG, 240hz sounds better than 4ms 165hz even if we're getting into really tiny differences.[/quote]
im just waiting for 420hz
High refresh rate means clearer picture and more enjoyable viewing experience. This is probably for people wishing to replace their tv with a computer, so it's for watching videos and movies, which is something that does not require low response time/input lag. It is also alternatively used for single player and casual games.
This was not designed for competitive gaming, more so to improve experience of casual and single player games.
High refresh rate means clearer picture and more enjoyable viewing experience. This is probably for people wishing to replace their tv with a computer, so it's for watching videos and movies, which is something that does not require low response time/input lag. It is also alternatively used for single player and casual games.
This was not designed for competitive gaming, more so to improve experience of casual and single player games.
This was not designed for competitive gaming, more so to improve experience of casual and single player games.
@Setsul or anyone else who knows
I have looked this up before, but the answer seems to differ depending on the source. Response time is the time it takes for the pixel to be instructed to change colours by the controller in the monitor to the time it is actually displaying this colour, right? And how about input lag? Is that the total time it takes for any sensor input to run through your computer until you can observe the feedback, or is it just the time it takes for the relevant output(already processed, but not yet sent) to be sent to the respective controller on the output device by the corresponding device(in case of a monitor, the GPU)? Thank you in advance.
@Setsul or anyone else who knows
I have looked this up before, but the answer seems to differ depending on the source. [i]Response time[/i] is the time it takes for the pixel to be instructed to change colours by the controller in the monitor to the time it is actually displaying this colour, right? And how about [i]input lag[/i]? Is that the total time it takes for any sensor input to run through your computer until you can observe the feedback, or is it just the time it takes for the relevant output(already processed, but not yet sent) to be sent to the respective controller on the output device by the corresponding device(in case of a monitor, the GPU)? Thank you in advance.
I have looked this up before, but the answer seems to differ depending on the source. [i]Response time[/i] is the time it takes for the pixel to be instructed to change colours by the controller in the monitor to the time it is actually displaying this colour, right? And how about [i]input lag[/i]? Is that the total time it takes for any sensor input to run through your computer until you can observe the feedback, or is it just the time it takes for the relevant output(already processed, but not yet sent) to be sent to the respective controller on the output device by the corresponding device(in case of a monitor, the GPU)? Thank you in advance.
Geel9the human brain only sees in 147hz anyways so i don't see the point in buying a 4ms monitor
source please
[quote=Geel9]the human brain only sees in 147hz anyways so i don't see the point in buying a 4ms monitor[/quote]
source please
source please
TangyyHigh refresh rate means clearer picture and more enjoyable viewing experience. This is probably for people wishing to replace their tv with a computer, so it's for watching videos and movies
Uuuhhh yeah im sure everyone watching their 24 fps 1080p movies will love having this 1440p 165hz monitor.
You are right about ips being way better in non competitive settings though.
[quote=Tangyy]High refresh rate means clearer picture and more enjoyable viewing experience. This is probably for people wishing to replace their tv with a computer, so it's for watching videos and movies[/quote]
Uuuhhh yeah im sure everyone watching their 24 fps 1080p movies will love having this 1440p 165hz monitor.
You are right about ips being way better in non competitive settings though.
Uuuhhh yeah im sure everyone watching their 24 fps 1080p movies will love having this 1440p 165hz monitor.
You are right about ips being way better in non competitive settings though.
Geel9the human brain only sees in 147hz anyways so i don't see the point in buying a 4ms monitor
Brains have a standard HZ?
Crazy, i'll have to remember my brain can only process 1/147th of a second, no less and ignore all deviations below that.
[quote=Geel9]the human brain only sees in 147hz anyways so i don't see the point in buying a 4ms monitor[/quote]
Brains have a standard HZ?
Crazy, i'll have to remember my brain can only process 1/147th of a second, no less and ignore all deviations below that.
Brains have a standard HZ?
Crazy, i'll have to remember my brain can only process 1/147th of a second, no less and ignore all deviations below that.
ErenJayUuuhhh yeah im sure everyone watching their 24 fps 1080p movies will love having this 1440p 165hz monitor.
I understand you are being sarcastic, but there are a lot of tv that run at 60hz, mine for example. For people wishing to have an even nicer picture than the standard 60hz tv, or what you rich people have, 120 hz tv, they should buy this monitor and replace their tv with it.
[quote=ErenJay]Uuuhhh yeah im sure everyone watching their 24 fps 1080p movies will love having this 1440p 165hz monitor.[/quote]
I understand you are being sarcastic, but there are a lot of tv that run at 60hz, mine for example. For people wishing to have an [i]even[/i] nicer picture than the standard 60hz tv, or what you rich people have, 120 hz tv, they should buy this monitor and replace their tv with it.
I understand you are being sarcastic, but there are a lot of tv that run at 60hz, mine for example. For people wishing to have an [i]even[/i] nicer picture than the standard 60hz tv, or what you rich people have, 120 hz tv, they should buy this monitor and replace their tv with it.
aieraGeel9the human brain only sees in 147hz anyways so i don't see the point in buying a 4ms monitorsource please
its 150 but the mind actually interprets up to 1000hz
[quote=aiera][quote=Geel9]the human brain only sees in 147hz anyways so i don't see the point in buying a 4ms monitor[/quote]
source please[/quote]
its 150 but the mind actually interprets up to 1000hz
source please[/quote]
its 150 but the mind actually interprets up to 1000hz
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