This was a terrible situation but why does it take a tragedy to bring people together and be nice to each other. I think as a world we let the negative speak louder than the positive. The reason for that is probably media and news.

Off topic but in my opinion any religious book that tells/hints you to kill other people should be burned. Using a book/religion as an excuse for such insane behaviour shouldn't be allowed in the 21st century. Truly feel sorry that brain washed people have to ruin the rest of the world and make society go backwards.

Man it is like every religion does this, good luck convincing everyone friend!

The Bible is actually way more violent and spiteful than the Qur'an

That specific verse is referring to a battle, its actually describing it in detail. The battle of Badr to be specific. Keep in mind the historical context of this battle. Back then wars were fought with swords and not guns and this verse describes the war and how a lethal blow was used to neutralize an enemy. Its really easy to judge the religion when you look into it with the prejudice mindset that it is a violent religion. In Burma, Bhuddist monks are slaughtering Muslims but that doesn't get shown in the media it actually gets no attention because it doesn't effect us in the western part of the world. They feel terrorized, we should send prayers to them as well as Paris.

Matthew 10:34:
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Luke 19:27:
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

Deuteronomy 17:
2 If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

the reason why I posted these quotes is to remind you that a lot of religious texts have passages written in them that could come across as violent, terrible acts that should be condemned. This is just to prove my point that if you are a violent person then your Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Judaism will be violent.

This is a passage about the Battle of Badr, in which a greatly outnumbered Muslim force was pressed to defend their home against invading warriors. The Qur'an is very clear that everyone should defend their home at all costs against enemies, but just a few verses later you get this line:

8:61 But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou also incline towards
peace, and trust in God: for He is One that hears and knows all things

Basically, if the enemy wants peace, then you should also want peace. The IS people are twisting the Qur'an in the exact same way that the KKK and WBC twist the Bible.

Its referring to battle? Is this not a battle?

Also im not saying the bible is not violant, i think every religion is violant. There have been so many deaths because of religions it's mindblowing...

#363 I dont care about convincing anyone, its just an opinion. Its not a religions fault that people are crazy, 99% of religious people dont just murder their neighbour. Its the 1% that take the text to the extreme and make X religion look bad. Im not saying its wrong to believe, I'm saying that I think its kind of insane to harm someone you've never met based off their religion, no matter what their beliefs are.

Anyhow, at least none of those are as insane as Scientology where they believe people were tossed at one point in volcanoes and then nuked so their souls can be free or some shit.

I still don't think you understand, read #366

You literally said every violent religious book should be burned or destroyed, your argument clearly goes against what you just said, before you literally suggested we exterminate all religious texts, while now you go back on what you said, and change your argument to "only like a small percentage of religious people are violent" So do you believe?

Ok I see, I still stand that religion brings more violence then good

This is a pretty age old argument. You think religion brings more violence than good, religious people think that religion isn't inherently bad and violent people twist it to their ends.

I tend to fall in the latter camp because there have been plenty of violent non-religious regimes through time.

talks about religion tend to go on for forever or a rlly long time

ples guiz

Lets just say people bring violence

yeah humans r evil

Tbh if there was no religion, people would find other reasons to kill others.

organized crime is worse than unorganized crime

kinda unrelated but i just wanted to stress that Paris isnt the only area going through hardships currently. Its very important to stand by any region that has been affected by such tragedies.

http://i.imgur.com/bmtBcgx.jpg

Your government does it becuase it's effective: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/07/09/racial-profiling-reported-in-nsa-fbi-surveillance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airport_racial_profiling_in_the_United_States
Frank Cilluffo, former special assistant for Homeland Security under then-President George W. Bush, said "airports need to be 'profiling' based on behavior even though it's a 'dirty word.'"[11]
Mustard, do you know how dumb you sound with your delusional idealism, vs how things work in reality.

You're just like the people who go around, how everything should be free and "peace and love" while you are just an useful idiot who fell for subversion, the professionals who want to keep your country safe do it, not becuse they are racist, but becuase it works.

and if you don't think it does, how many coordinated terrorist attacks on USA soil are sucessfull since 9/11?

Weshould know however that isis is doing these terrorist attacks only so that peole in western will blame the whole islam religion/culture for being responsible for these attacks. This way they want islamitic citizens of western countries to feel discriminated and when that happens it's more likely they will become extremists (not saying every muslim will though).
I think the best solution, or at least a good begin, is for the islamitic leaders in the western countries to state that they do not support these terrorist attacks and that they will try to keep the radicalisation in their communities to a minimum.

yea, don't blame whole islam, blame sunnites

I wish Pim Fortuyn was still alive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrH2r_6oDAU

Why would ypu blame them? Not all sunnites are terrorists man

and not all jews are zionists, but still the entire arab world and the diaspora in europe hates jews .

Thats not true at all. Only extremist arab leaders and their followers hate jews. I bet that if you go to saoudi arabia and ask a random citizen if they hate jews they will tell you they dont. Statements like yours are what gives isis a reason to fight

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Arab_world

Antisemitism is common within religious circles. Abdul Rahman Al-Sudais, the imam of the Grand mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, has been described as an antisemite[48][49] for publicly praying to God to 'terminate' the Jews[50]

you really are a naive little kid, aren't you...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJkxOF9QqEk

I just think that we should remember that not all muslims/sunnites are terrorists. And by saying so/think that way, we give isis a reason to keep on doing these shootings

ISIS have reason enough, slaughtering christians, yezidi's shiites, alawites , you'd think they don't find a reason for us, no watter what we would say or think.

One could reply to you with 1000 passages quoted from the same book telling the exact opposite just to show the brutality and the dishonesty of this religion.

This is it. This is my biggest fear. More hatred to Islam and Muslims in general. Let me tell you something, yeah? Something trivial from a Muslim himself. The Quran was told down verse by verse to Muhammad himself, through Gabriel/Jibril. Although not always, sometimes when the Muslims were in a bad situation, Muhammad plea to Allah for salvation, help. Allah responded by revealed a verse, depending on the situation, such as the Battle of Badr ikpure was telling earlier. The Quran took 23 years to be completed.

23 years. 23 years which some of them Muslim were in the verge of war, boycotted, tortured beyond disbelief. Would you imagine that? In Indonesia, we have studies that based on whichever religion you followed. I asked my Islamic Studies teacher once prior to this attacks, he said the verses were situational, that occured on dark times, like I said earlier. My point is? While yes, some of the Quran verse may be vulgar from your perspective, I can assure you that, the Quran is filled with helpful contents, after all it is the Holy Book of Islam. Ask anyone who is well versed, knowledge in the contents of the Quran, we have contents of history, social law, science, etc. The Quran is a trusted source in the Muslim community. But ISIS is twisting the contents of the Quran making this holy book seemed, evil.

I fear for the day whenever I visited other countries for LANs, travelling, etc. I will be condemned to shame and hatred if I were to tell them I am a Muslim. For those who in France, stay safe, be on guard, and remember that many countries and Indonesia's thoughts are with you right now.

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled."
9.29
One could say that the context when this was written is different but this book is supposed to be written by allah and is supposed to guide muslims lifestyles.
As someone who lives in a muslim country the overall mindset here about these attacks are that they deserve it because they killed muslims in Syria .