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TF2 update for 12/2/15
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#31
Patch Notes
-6 Frags +
Bonafidedeetrwickedplayer494Feel free to take shits on me all you want, but the fact of the matter is Valve can't afford to keep supporting your antiquated setups forever. If anything you should be thankful that they even bothered supporting XP and DX8 past 2013.
Yeah except I have a 4670k and a 780 Ti and I don't get 144 fps with a dx9 fps config. That's by no means an antiquated setup. The game is just shittily optimized and removing one of the major ways to get better fps is dumb.
Than that's something wrong at your end, I run dx9 with a similar but slightly less good setup and I'm getting 290+ always

Agreed, slightly worse on paper: a 3570k and a 660 Ti, I'm perfectly fine.

[quote=Bonafide][quote=deetr][quote=wickedplayer494]Feel free to take shits on me all you want, but the fact of the matter is Valve can't afford to keep supporting your antiquated setups forever. If anything you should be thankful that they even bothered supporting XP and DX8 past 2013.[/quote]

Yeah except I have a 4670k and a 780 Ti and I don't get 144 fps with a dx9 fps config. That's by no means an antiquated setup. The game is just shittily optimized and removing one of the major ways to get better fps is dumb.[/quote]
Than that's something wrong at your end, I run dx9 with a similar but slightly less good setup and I'm getting 290+ always[/quote]
Agreed, slightly worse on paper: a 3570k and a 660 Ti, I'm perfectly fine.
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#32
-2 Frags +

I'm pretty sure they will fix performance issues by the time they release it

I'm pretty sure they will fix performance issues by the time they release it
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#33
2 Frags +

holy shit that host_writeconfig change is amazing

holy shit that host_writeconfig change is amazing
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#34
-8 Frags +
Valve- Supernova

???

[quote=Valve]- Supernova[/quote]

???
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#35
3 Frags +

dx90+ makes this game damn near impossible to play for people with tritanopia because of all of the extra fancy bullshit on the screen. why on earth would they have such a stupid rule against making their annoyingly glossy game more simplistic? guess im not playing match making :/

dx90+ makes this game damn near impossible to play for people with tritanopia because of all of the extra fancy bullshit on the screen. why on earth would they have such a stupid rule against making their annoyingly glossy game more simplistic? guess im not playing match making :/
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#36
0 Frags +
Astrin_Valve- Supernova
???

Mannpower

[quote=Astrin_][quote=Valve]- Supernova[/quote]

???[/quote]
Mannpower
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#37
35 Frags +
wickedplayer494Feel free to take shits on me all you want, but the fact of the matter is Valve can't afford to keep supporting your antiquated setups forever. If anything you should be thankful that they even bothered supporting XP and DX8 past 2013.

You're an idiot.

Why?

Direct X 9 was released with Windows XP. Currently that's the best TF2 can do. With your reasoning Valve should just completely kill TF2 rather than bothering with updating anything.

[quote=wickedplayer494]Feel free to take shits on me all you want, but the fact of the matter is Valve can't afford to keep supporting your antiquated setups forever. If anything you should be thankful that they even bothered supporting XP and DX8 past 2013.[/quote]

You're an idiot.

Why?

Direct X 9 was released with Windows XP. Currently that's the best TF2 can do. With your reasoning Valve should just completely kill TF2 rather than bothering with updating anything.
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#38
3 Frags +

Dx8 is pretty old, but it's unfortunate that they have to remove it since so many players benefit from the fps boost it gives.

Dx8 is pretty old, but it's unfortunate that they have to remove it since so many players benefit from the fps boost it gives.
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#39
28 Frags +

http://i.imgur.com/Byy2JSH.jpg?1

[img]http://i.imgur.com/Byy2JSH.jpg?1[/img]
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#40
0 Frags +
flameholy shit that host_writeconfig change is amazing

yeah it is pretty cool

[quote=flame]holy shit that host_writeconfig change is amazing[/quote]

yeah it is pretty cool
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#41
0 Frags +
BonafideThis: http://pastebin.com/Z8Bquwuz

Just tried running this cfg, got about 180fps in a dm server on dx9, must be an optimization thing

[quote=Bonafide]
This: http://pastebin.com/Z8Bquwuz[/quote]

Just tried running this cfg, got about 180fps in a dm server on dx9, must be an optimization thing
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#42
0 Frags +
flamehttp://i.imgur.com/Byy2JSH.jpg?1

How is Driller a Mercenary when the starting rank is recruit?

[quote=flame][img]http://i.imgur.com/Byy2JSH.jpg?1[/img][/quote]
How is Driller a Mercenary when the starting rank is recruit?
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#43
16 Frags +

he works for valve, he does what he wants

he works for valve, he does what he wants
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#44
2 Frags +

There's no way I'll keep playing if I have to run dx9. I get around 90 fps with dx8 and maxframes and dx9 would mean like a 30 fps drop.
Well I'll keep playing but I won't get to try matchmaking, which sucks.

There's no way I'll keep playing if I have to run dx9. I get around 90 fps with dx8 and maxframes and dx9 would mean like a 30 fps drop.
Well I'll keep playing but I won't get to try matchmaking, which sucks.
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#45
-5 Frags +

hold up, so youre telling me that, Valve isn't going to split up their workforce for optimizing for two different Graphics API's? WTF UNFAIR

corianderSo, is there any chance that OpenGL will be supported at some point?

it is on the linux port so its a possibility but highly improbable

hold up, so youre telling me that, Valve isn't going to split up their workforce for optimizing for two different Graphics API's? WTF UNFAIR

[quote=coriander]So, is there any chance that OpenGL will be supported at some point?[/quote]
it is on the linux port so its a possibility but highly improbable
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#46
1 Frags +

So, is there any chance that OpenGL will be supported at some point?

So, is there any chance that OpenGL will be supported at some point?
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#47
-1 Frags +

guess I won't be playing matchmaking. oh well.

guess I won't be playing matchmaking. oh well.
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#48
huds.tf
38 Frags +

Maybe Valve are planning to release the absolute best optimization update ever that'll make you all have beautiful frames on dx9.

You can only hope.

Maybe Valve are planning to release the absolute best optimization update ever that'll make you all have beautiful frames on dx9.

You can only hope.
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#49
5 Frags +
kounterpartshold up, so youre telling me that, Valve isn't going to split up their workforce for optimizing for two different Graphics API's? WTF UNFAIR

like other have said, this would be 100% fine if me and many others didnt struggle to get fps on dx9.

everything lowest + comanglias fps config i get 70 fps with a 2500k @4.5ghz and a 970.
using dx8? easy 200-250

[quote=kounterparts]hold up, so youre telling me that, Valve isn't going to split up their workforce for optimizing for two different Graphics API's? WTF UNFAIR[/quote]

like other have said, this would be 100% fine if me and many others didnt struggle to get fps on dx9.

everything lowest + comanglias fps config i get 70 fps with a 2500k @4.5ghz and a 970.
using dx8? easy 200-250
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#50
0 Frags +
smittenkounterpartshold up, so youre telling me that, Valve isn't going to split up their workforce for optimizing for two different Graphics API's? WTF UNFAIR
like other have said, this would be 100% fine if me and many others didnt struggle to get fps on dx9.

everything lowest + comanglias fps config i get 70 fps with a 2500k @4.5ghz and a 970.
using dx8? easy 200-250

There is something very wrong with your Set up if you are getting 70 frames with that Computer. I got a 2500K and a 970 and i barely ever get less than 120 and that's on most Pub servers using Chris Max Quality ..

[quote=smitten][quote=kounterparts]hold up, so youre telling me that, Valve isn't going to split up their workforce for optimizing for two different Graphics API's? WTF UNFAIR[/quote]

like other have said, this would be 100% fine if me and many others didnt struggle to get fps on dx9.

everything lowest + comanglias fps config i get 70 fps with a 2500k @4.5ghz and a 970.
using dx8? easy 200-250[/quote]

There is something very wrong with your Set up if you are getting 70 frames with that Computer. I got a 2500K and a 970 and i barely ever get less than 120 and that's on most Pub servers using Chris Max Quality ..
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#51
-1 Frags +

Wouldn't mind dx9 if they fixed the optimization. Remember first week of TF2 beta? Constant 300 fps on max. New rig, max fps config, barely 150 constant on live.

Wouldn't mind dx9 if they fixed the optimization. Remember first week of TF2 beta? Constant 300 fps on max. New rig, max fps config, barely 150 constant on live.
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#52
6 Frags +
VaskieThere is something very wrong with your Set up if you are getting 70 frames with that Computer. I got a 2500K and a 970 and i barely ever get less than 120 and that's on most Pub servers using Chris Max Quality ..MrJellyIt's called poor optimisation. 300fps for one person 120fps with stuttering for another
[quote=Vaskie]
There is something very wrong with your Set up if you are getting 70 frames with that Computer. I got a 2500K and a 970 and i barely ever get less than 120 and that's on most Pub servers using Chris Max Quality ..[/quote]

[quote=MrJelly]
It's called poor optimisation. 300fps for one person 120fps with stuttering for another[/quote]
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#53
whitelist.tf
-24 Frags +

LOL players using toaster settings on their beast PCs, increasing quality/texture settings has imho been proven to have decent frames than the shittiest settings on DX8 because of GPU offloading, especially on monster PCs.

Welcome to the wonderful world of TF2 with weapon skins, objective outlines for intel carriers/payload carts and player outlines when you're dead counting the frames!

LOL players using toaster settings on their beast PCs, increasing quality/texture settings has imho been proven to have decent frames than the shittiest settings on DX8 because of GPU offloading, especially on monster PCs.

Welcome to the wonderful world of TF2 with weapon skins, objective outlines for intel carriers/payload carts and player outlines when you're dead counting the frames!
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#54
0 Frags +
deetrwickedplayer494Feel free to take shits on me all you want, but the fact of the matter is Valve can't afford to keep supporting your antiquated setups forever. If anything you should be thankful that they even bothered supporting XP and DX8 past 2013.
Yeah except I have a 4670k and a 780 Ti and I don't get 144 fps with a dx9 fps config. That's by no means an antiquated setup. The game is just shittily optimized and removing one of the major ways to get better fps is dumb.

Agreed 100% same issues here i have a really nice pc, tf2 runs at 100 fps with out fps config. and then 300 with fps config. Come on valve fix your game and start using my gpu's.

[quote=deetr][quote=wickedplayer494]Feel free to take shits on me all you want, but the fact of the matter is Valve can't afford to keep supporting your antiquated setups forever. If anything you should be thankful that they even bothered supporting XP and DX8 past 2013.[/quote]

Yeah except I have a 4670k and a 780 Ti and I don't get 144 fps with a dx9 fps config. That's by no means an antiquated setup. The game is just shittily optimized and removing one of the major ways to get better fps is dumb.[/quote]

Agreed 100% same issues here i have a really nice pc, tf2 runs at 100 fps with out fps config. and then 300 with fps config. Come on valve fix your game and start using my gpu's.
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#55
-1 Frags +

yeah valve is just gonna change how source works and start using gpu's out of nowhere yeah

yeah valve is just gonna change how source works and start using gpu's out of nowhere yeah
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#56
2 Frags +

sadly you have to run toaster graphics even on high end to god tier systems. my system with an i7 4790k at 4.8 ghz and dual 970s in sli cant get above 100 on upward with 10 people. This game is unoptimized as hell. That's why we run toaster graphics so we can drive 144hz monitors

sadly you have to run toaster graphics even on high end to god tier systems. my system with an i7 4790k at 4.8 ghz and dual 970s in sli cant get above 100 on upward with 10 people. This game is unoptimized as hell. That's why we run toaster graphics so we can drive 144hz monitors
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#57
9 Frags +

valve is adding competitive mode and then they are forcing us to see more unnecessary visual clutter.

valve is adding competitive mode and then they are forcing us to see more unnecessary visual clutter.
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#58
1 Frags +
lavaninesadly you have to run toaster graphics even on high end to god tier systems. my system with an i7 4790k at 4.8 ghz and dual 970s in sli cant get above 100 on upward with 10 people. This game is unoptimized as hell. That's why we run toaster graphics so we can drive 144hz monitors

this is either complete bullshit or a issue with your computer, not the game.

[quote=lavanine]sadly you have to run toaster graphics even on high end to god tier systems. my system with an i7 4790k at 4.8 ghz and dual 970s in sli cant get above 100 on upward with 10 people. This game is unoptimized as hell. That's why we run toaster graphics so we can drive 144hz monitors[/quote]
this is either complete bullshit or a issue with your computer, not the game.
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#59
-1 Frags +
kounterpartslavaninesadly you have to run toaster graphics even on high end to god tier systems. my system with an i7 4790k at 4.8 ghz and dual 970s in sli cant get above 100 on upward with 10 people. This game is unoptimized as hell. That's why we run toaster graphics so we can drive 144hz monitorsthis is either complete bullshit or a issue with your computer, not the game.

Add me on steam, ill show you otherwize my gpus dont even boost clock, they sit at idle

[quote=kounterparts][quote=lavanine]sadly you have to run toaster graphics even on high end to god tier systems. my system with an i7 4790k at 4.8 ghz and dual 970s in sli cant get above 100 on upward with 10 people. This game is unoptimized as hell. That's why we run toaster graphics so we can drive 144hz monitors[/quote]
this is either complete bullshit or a issue with your computer, not the game.[/quote]
Add me on steam, ill show you otherwize my gpus dont even boost clock, they sit at idle
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#60
-5 Frags +

dxlevel 8 rip http://m.imgur.com/gallery/8WxdAqb

dxlevel 8 rip http://m.imgur.com/gallery/8WxdAqb
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