please it sucks and i hate it
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please it sucks and i hate it
http://strawpoll.me/6703494
http://strawpoll.me/6703494
No. It's a weapon in the game. It is a weapon legal in play. You can't play a match with it if you can't be amazing with it. You can't scrim with it unless your team believes you are amazing with it. You cant use it in a PUG because a PUG team can't play around it. The only way to practice it is in DM.
I firmly believe a weapon like the DH never saw consistent match play because no one has really had the opportunity to get good enough with it for it to be justified. The issue with it in DM, I feel, is that it negates one of the major downsides of the DH...reloading after missing. Full ammo regen with each kill lets you abuse spamming it in a way that is unrealistic to actual use. It would be better for both those seeking practice and those fighting it if the ammo regen capped at 2, i.e. if you frag on the last rocket you go from 0-2 rockets in clip. If you frag with 3 rockets in clip, you get 0 rockets back: if you frag with 2 still in clip, you get 0 rockets back.
I feel this would make it better.
No. It's a weapon in the game. It is a weapon legal in play. You can't play a match with it if you can't be amazing with it. You can't scrim with it unless your team believes you are amazing with it. You cant use it in a PUG because a PUG team can't play around it. The only way to practice it is in DM.
I firmly believe a weapon like the DH never saw consistent match play because no one has really had the opportunity to get good enough with it for it to be justified. The issue with it in DM, I feel, is that it negates one of the major downsides of the DH...reloading after missing. Full ammo regen with each kill lets you abuse spamming it in a way that is unrealistic to actual use. It would be better for both those seeking practice and those fighting it if the ammo regen capped at 2, i.e. if you frag on the last rocket you go from 0-2 rockets in clip. If you frag with 3 rockets in clip, you get 0 rockets back: if you frag with 2 still in clip, you get 0 rockets back.
I feel this would make it better.
I firmly believe a weapon like the DH never saw consistent match play because no one has really had the opportunity to get good enough with it for it to be justified. The issue with it in DM, I feel, is that it negates one of the major downsides of the DH...reloading after missing. Full ammo regen with each kill lets you abuse spamming it in a way that is unrealistic to actual use. It would be better for both those seeking practice and those fighting it if the ammo regen capped at 2, i.e. if you frag on the last rocket you go from 0-2 rockets in clip. If you frag with 3 rockets in clip, you get 0 rockets back: if you frag with 2 still in clip, you get 0 rockets back.
I feel this would make it better.
BLoodSireNo. It's a weapon in the game. It is a weapon legal in play. You can't play a match with it if you can't be amazing with it. You can't scrim with it unless your team believes you are amazing with it. You cant use it in a PUG because a PUG team can't play around it. The only way to practice it is in DM.
I firmly believe a weapon like the DH never saw consistent match play because no one has really had the opportunity to get good enough with it for it to be justified. The issue with it in DM, I feel, is that it negates one of the major downsides of the DH...reloading after missing. Full ammo regen with each kill lets you abuse spamming it in a way that is unrealistic to actual use. It would be better for both those seeking practice and those fighting it if the ammo regen capped at 2, i.e. if you frag on the last rocket you go from 0-2 rockets in clip. If you frag with 3 rockets in clip, you get 0 rockets back: if you frag with 2 still in clip, you get 0 rockets back.
I feel this would make it better.
DH never really saw much consistent match play because splash rockets are extremely important in so many different ways not because of lack of practice
Still, I agree with you, DH is a weapon in the game that is (fairly) well balanced even though I think it should only do ~120 max damage and no more than 124, the weapon isn't that difficult to fight even if it seems a bit cheesy/luck driven sometimes
Also DM is inherently flawed in comparison to actual games and it would probably be pretty interesting to see what would happen if the regen gave you back 50% of max clip just like it gives you 50% hp back which is sort of in line with what you're saying
also just because a weapon is in the game (and maybe even legal in ESEA/ETF2L/Whatever) does not mean we should by default "deal with it"
There is a reason targe (among other things) is/was banned in DM and should stay banned but is completely fair and reasonable to have unbanned in league play
[quote=BLoodSire]No. It's a weapon in the game. It is a weapon legal in play. You can't play a match with it if you can't be amazing with it. You can't scrim with it unless your team believes you are amazing with it. You cant use it in a PUG because a PUG team can't play around it. The only way to practice it is in DM.
I firmly believe a weapon like the DH never saw consistent match play because no one has really had the opportunity to get good enough with it for it to be justified. The issue with it in DM, I feel, is that it negates one of the major downsides of the DH...reloading after missing. Full ammo regen with each kill lets you abuse spamming it in a way that is unrealistic to actual use. It would be better for both those seeking practice and those fighting it if the ammo regen capped at 2, i.e. if you frag on the last rocket you go from 0-2 rockets in clip. If you frag with 3 rockets in clip, you get 0 rockets back: if you frag with 2 still in clip, you get 0 rockets back.
I feel this would make it better.[/quote]
DH never really saw much consistent match play because splash rockets are extremely important in so many different ways not because of lack of practice
Still, I agree with you, DH is a weapon in the game that is (fairly) well balanced even though I think it should only do ~120 max damage and no more than 124, the weapon isn't that difficult to fight even if it seems a bit cheesy/luck driven sometimes
Also DM is inherently flawed in comparison to actual games and it would probably be pretty interesting to see what would happen if the regen gave you back 50% of max clip just like it gives you 50% hp back which is sort of in line with what you're saying
also just because a weapon is in the game (and maybe even legal in ESEA/ETF2L/Whatever) does not mean we should by default "deal with it"
There is a reason targe (among other things) is/was banned in DM and should stay banned but is completely fair and reasonable to have unbanned in league play
I firmly believe a weapon like the DH never saw consistent match play because no one has really had the opportunity to get good enough with it for it to be justified. The issue with it in DM, I feel, is that it negates one of the major downsides of the DH...reloading after missing. Full ammo regen with each kill lets you abuse spamming it in a way that is unrealistic to actual use. It would be better for both those seeking practice and those fighting it if the ammo regen capped at 2, i.e. if you frag on the last rocket you go from 0-2 rockets in clip. If you frag with 3 rockets in clip, you get 0 rockets back: if you frag with 2 still in clip, you get 0 rockets back.
I feel this would make it better.[/quote]
DH never really saw much consistent match play because splash rockets are extremely important in so many different ways not because of lack of practice
Still, I agree with you, DH is a weapon in the game that is (fairly) well balanced even though I think it should only do ~120 max damage and no more than 124, the weapon isn't that difficult to fight even if it seems a bit cheesy/luck driven sometimes
Also DM is inherently flawed in comparison to actual games and it would probably be pretty interesting to see what would happen if the regen gave you back 50% of max clip just like it gives you 50% hp back which is sort of in line with what you're saying
also just because a weapon is in the game (and maybe even legal in ESEA/ETF2L/Whatever) does not mean we should by default "deal with it"
There is a reason targe (among other things) is/was banned in DM and should stay banned but is completely fair and reasonable to have unbanned in league play
indecencyallow alltalk in dm
lmao back in my first open season I was playing DM and cbear was targe demoing and shit talking the whole server. It made me grow a bit of hair on my chest. 10/10 would DM again.
[quote=indecency]allow alltalk in dm[/quote]
lmao back in my first open season I was playing DM and cbear was targe demoing and shit talking the whole server. It made me grow a bit of hair on my chest. 10/10 would DM again.
lmao back in my first open season I was playing DM and cbear was targe demoing and shit talking the whole server. It made me grow a bit of hair on my chest. 10/10 would DM again.
The other day i joined a DM server, and on the other team was a rocket jumper+righteous bison soldier, a milk+fan of war scout, and a shotgun only soldier who was actually really good. All of the other DM servers seemed to be fine though.
The other day i joined a DM server, and on the other team was a rocket jumper+righteous bison soldier, a milk+fan of war scout, and a shotgun only soldier who was actually really good. All of the other DM servers seemed to be fine though.
the white list is currently broken (:D)
black box was banned along with the dh when the whitelist worked
the white list is currently broken (:D)
black box was banned along with the dh when the whitelist worked
black box was banned along with the dh when the whitelist worked
liasban the soldier parachute shit too please
If you actually need practice with it in DM to be good at using the parachute then I really have to question your life choices
Please ban it in DM servers if it hasn't been.
[quote=lias]ban the soldier parachute shit too please[/quote]
If you actually need practice with it in DM to be good at using the parachute then I really have to question your life choices
Please ban it in DM servers if it hasn't been.
If you actually need practice with it in DM to be good at using the parachute then I really have to question your life choices
Please ban it in DM servers if it hasn't been.
tfw jackster is in your dm server floating around with the parachute and black box
tfw jackster is in your dm server floating around with the parachute and black box
I'd be fine with dhit if the fucking whitelist just worked in the first place, I'm sick of dealing with retards with pub weapons
I'd be fine with dhit if the fucking whitelist just worked in the first place, I'm sick of dealing with retards with pub weapons
The amount of people shitposting "git gud xd" is amazing, their probably the ones running it to lmao
Seriously though there's no reason to run the DH or the parachute in a DM server
The amount of people shitposting "git gud xd" is amazing, their probably the ones running it to lmao
Seriously though there's no reason to run the DH or the parachute in a DM server
Seriously though there's no reason to run the DH or the parachute in a DM server
TuryThe amount of people shitposting "git gud xd" is amazing, their probably the ones running it to lmao
Seriously though there's no reason to run the DH or the parachute in a DM server
unless you want to become the greatest tf2
master gamer ever
[quote=Tury]The amount of people shitposting "git gud xd" is amazing, their probably the ones running it to lmao
Seriously though there's no reason to run the DH or the parachute in a DM server[/quote]
unless you want to become the greatest tf2
master gamer ever
Seriously though there's no reason to run the DH or the parachute in a DM server[/quote]
unless you want to become the greatest tf2
master gamer ever
When ever I get a mini crit when airshotting with the DH it makes me feel like a pyro main so I don't use it.
When ever I get a mini crit when airshotting with the DH it makes me feel like a pyro main so I don't use it.
niverii think you messed up the poll lol
its perfectly fine
[quote=niveri]i think you messed up the poll lol[/quote]
its perfectly fine
its perfectly fine
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