ive always thought it would be good to have a pub with something like a democratic maplist
because rn community servers are pretty dead
so youre either picking between every payload or koth or whatever map in the game on a valve server
or youre playing 24/7 on one map like on a skial server
but i think you could have a pub that just goes thru the pub maps people actually like without throwing in garbage, keeping the list pretty lean

I'd really like to see some of the lesser played Valve maps in the map rotation, things like Offblast and Yukon, but I want to avoid shit like 2fort. Let me come up with a list of possibilities.

Would love to see a stock-only server with Well, Fastlane, and Granary.

Possible map rotation:

• cp_granary
  
• cp_well
  
• cp_gravelpit
  
• cp_fastlane
  
• cp_yukon_final
  
• cp_5gorge
  
• cp_freight
  
• cp_coldfront

Are you guys open to Arena maps?

i personally feel like a lot of those maps are just not very fun
and thats why no one wants to play them even in valve pubs where people dont know any better
well and fastlane are very bad maps
and 5cp maps in pubs can be kind of boring except for a few exceptions and bigger maps like 5gorge and process
i suppose it is up to you in the end though

regards, dr publicgame

Just name maps that are fun but don't feel too ridiculous. I'm looking for actual feedback rather than just "nah do better".

Suggestion: Try to do a poll for what maps people want and don't want. You absolutely cannot please everybody (some people hate certain maps etc.) but a poll should give you a pretty good idea of what maps are MOST popular and you can then pick, you know.. 10-12 of those or whatever. So you can try to please.. MOST people.

badwater
process
harvest
upward
hightower
maybe dustbowl or 2fort or something
i was just saying that a server with a rotation of just the pubbing gold standards would probably be pretty fun and stay populated as opposed to dying when it changes to a map no one likes

actually just fuck it dude
throw in the original 6
not badlands badlands is too new

Don't forget the classic koth_nucleus, a 2010 favorite.

Now let me tell you a little something about a map named koth harvest

Here's a poll about specific maps:
http://strawpoll.me/6867916

Here's a poll about the map rotation in general:
http://strawpoll.me/6867937

Here's a few polls about the whitelist:
http://strawpoll.me/6867923
http://strawpoll.me/6867930
http://strawpoll.me/6867931

I know it's a lot of polls but hopefully it'll give me some insight into what would actually be wanted.

The only 5cp map I've seen work in pub is process. You wouldn't imagine it but it just seems to work.

How is goldrush so high up?!?

Yukon and Coldfront are pretty decent in pubs.

I can't say I've played those ones in pub tbh, I'm sure they're great. It would be a shame to leave process out of the map pool though.

Are there any reskins of Process? I like the map, and it works well in pubs, I just don't think the tileset really fits the aesthetic I'm looking for.

Foundry is a good pub map

Just leave cp_well out... It's a terrible pub map; a terrible map overall also. The medpack and ammo placement is retardedly not thought through, the whole absense of a connection between yard/mid and the upper floors of 2nd breaks any natural 5cp flow. Who voted for that map lol?

can we play tc_hydro?

I had a version of TF2 from November 15th 2007 and played it with my friends

The matches were either 2 hours long or 7 seconds long

Hydro is only good when you play it on the Xbox 360 or PS3 version

Anyways, yes please do this

I believe the game is more balanced when you don't have any other weapons

Performance will also be better because of no hats

Please for the love of god don't revert the stats to the 2007 stats though

Pyro had no airblast essentially making him an ambush class (although the developers intended you to play her as an ambush class)

Engineer couldn't move buildings

Demoman and Soldier had like 30-40 reserve ammo

Spies backstab took a million years to complete

The only way to refill your cloak other than waiting is to change classes then change back to spy

And just keep it stock, no unlocks.

it aint a stock tf2 server if you've got unlocks

if you add hats, only allow the original 9 hats that were added in the sniper vs spy update

no poll option for snakewater FeelsBadMan i miss skial 24/7 snake

tbh not worth the effort
These community servers live for like a week at best. Blame quick play.

There's plenty of community servers that have been alive for much longer than a week. Also, quick play is more geared towards newer players who are just starting the game and they want to jump right into the action. They may not know what different game modes there are or what maps play the best, they just want to test the waters and see what they like. That's what I personally did. I quick-played for about a week until I got about 3-4 maps and game modes I really liked and then used the server browser to quickly find the most populated servers.

snakewater and process will happen, i just forgot to add them to the poll

I couldn't revert stats even if I wanted to, without writing my own sourcemod plugin. Stats will stay, and the poll option for "old hats" refers to the original 9.

Here is the current WIP mapcycle:

• pl_badwater
  
• koth_harvest_final
  
• pl_upward
  
• cp_gravelpit
  
• cp_coldfront
  
• cp_yukon_final
  
• cp_freight_final1
  
• pl_goldrush
  
• cp_fastlane
  
• cp_5gorge
  
• cp_process_final
  
• cp_snakewater_final1
  
• cp_furnace
  
• pl_timbermill
  
• cp_granary_pro
  
• pl_rust
  
• cp_stoneyridge
  
• pl_swiftwater (no UGC branding)

All non-Valve maps will use the built-in Map Workshop, so they'll be downloaded and updated by TF2 automatically for you directly from Steam. You won't need to download them or wait for a long-ass FastDL to take place.

I'd love some feedback on the mapcycle so far. Every single workshop map listed (except for Granary) is on a trial basis. If you guys don't like it I'll remove it, but I do ask that you give it a chance. I've provided links for each one so you can take a look. Some Valve maps are on trial too, if they turn out to not work well I'll remove them.

Additionally, since 46% of you want a few unlocks rather than none (16%) or most (18%), here's a new strawpoll. Please vote for every weapon you'd like to see allowed, but please remember that this is meant to be a stock server - don't just vote for competitive weapons. Remember that a banned weapon means enemies can't use it, either. For example, if the Sandvich is banned, every Heavy will have a shotgun, no matter what.
http://strawpoll.me/6874102

Here's a few polls about game settings:
http://strawpoll.me/6874131
http://strawpoll.me/6874139
http://strawpoll.me/6874142
http://strawpoll.me/6874149

As per prior poll results:

• Skins will not be allowed. While some are not obnoxious and fit the TF2 aesthetic, it would be unfair to only allow some and ban others.
  
• No cosmetics will be allowed. I would have liked the first 9 hats, but I don't know of a way to disable unusual effects.

EDIT: I'm going through and vetting each Workshop map now, and I've swapped Overgrown for Furnace Creek, which I think will play really nicely. Overgrown is gorgeous but its actual design is questionable at best.

Not to discourage, but we've had a couple of these servers and they have tend to fail. I for one actually do support these and try to join when I can, but overall nobody joins them enough. I will try my best to join this one when I can as I have always loved map rotation servers with old maps. I would recommend having 20 minutes as the server time limit, so people won't feel they are too bored with one map and can get to play more maps faster. Pretty good mapcycle you have already.

I'm trying to improve it over previous iterations by allowing some unlocks and having a really nice mapcycle. It won't replace pubs, of course, but I feel it's a nice medium between lobbies and pubs for a competitive skill level.

bring back pubs 2016

I've always liked a nice medium, but some people from this community due tend to just rather play a lobby due to the format of 6v6 being well loved and something different from pubs. I do thank you for the effort you're putting into this.

Back then when I played a pub, one of the closest models to this kind of was the nomnomnom servers(which quite a couple of players here have come from, sorry guys). The server had an actual mapcycle that would change each week that included a good mix of stock and custom maps. The server map time limit was also 20 minutes(so people wouldn't have that same old pub feel) and had many good players on playing. I also believe that the max player count was between 18-24 so it wouldn't be a complete 24/32 player mess. No whitelist, but this was back when there was not as many unlocked weapons released.